East China - Shanghai

[Bigfoot16]

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Of the current ladies I can recommend you Wenli. Her statements are honest, she gives you what she promises. And be aware of a mind blowing BBBJ. She does not do any upsale and she is actually quite cute.
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I saw Wenli in early September and second that emotion. I would repeat.

[Sinofaguo]

She wasn't a kisser but menu included BBJ as noted but didn't enjoy DATY and the smoker thing really turned me off, probably will more likely try some old reliable or something new, but she is cute!

How about Alice? Did you perform DATY on "her" ?

[DaneInChina]

A few experiences I would like to share from the site Massage Republic. Had a visit from Kaory, in my hotel. A mature Colombian lady, at least her fotos were accurate. In her add it was 1500 including owo. Did some weChatting, where she started at 2000. We agreed on 1500 plus taxi, still overpriced. Other than her add: owo was only after extra payment. Kind of kills the encounter. Not a repeat business.

From Massage Republic I tried as well 'Pretty Mature Lady', again a miss match. Hardly any English, massage was all right, sex was not with the details that we agreed on: no CIM etc.

The only good deals I found were in Manhattan and Judys, you get to talk to the girls first, then negotiate the details and usually they keep their word. Most of the girls are from VietNam. My taste is more for the older ladies, but are hard to find.

Hi,

I also have been looking at that site for escorts. There are a few "Pretty mature Lady" on the site, of which I am interested in one. She is having 2 advertises, one where she writes her name I Lisa and another where she calls herself Lily.

Can I ask if you met any of those, or was it a total different pretty mature lady?

I have been seeing a few ladies from that site. I think you must remember that the website itself can not give you much warranty for quality. It is the ladies themselves who makes the advertise.

Of the current ladies I can recommend you Wenli. Her statements are honest, she gives you what she promises. And be aware of a mind blowing BBBJ. She does not do any upsale and she is actually quite cute.

You also can find her on other sites and P411.

Another one was Aida from Indonesia, but she is not advertising currently.

BR,

DaneinChina.

[Tyb60]

I feel bad that I have been littering the board with requests for advice on maintaining an er nai (mistress), so here is a report.

Louissa on NLO is a good deal at 1200. Legit 25 years old. Firm bod. And a tad tallish, so she is lean. Her profile says A cup, which sometimes means flat, but she has a handful, and they are firm. Her profile also says CBJ, but to my pleasant surprise, she gives a good BBBJ. But she is a smoker in case that bothers anyone.

I can concur with Midwestern, with Louisa!

Pictures are accurate! Cute and young and fun. She got freaked out with all the police she saw around my hotel my hotel that I think killed her attitude and as she left said she would do better next time. She wasn't a kisser but menu included BBJ as noted but didn't enjoy DATY and the smoker thing really turned me off, probably will more likely try some old reliable or something new, but she is cute!

[Schelmik01]

Dear Shanghai folks,

I had quite some success meeting local girls with Badoo, Chinese and other SEA ones. I know there are also quite a few hookers in Badoo, but setting the age limit to 30 (I am 52) seems to have filtered most of them out. I got some dates with Chinese girls visiting Shanghai, and mad a full hit with a very nice Philippina. First date was an art gallery (yes), and it turned out that the lady had not only intellectual needs. Lots of Philippinas live with families and room mates with little privacy, and they are pretty lonely sometimes. I have my own place in SH, so this came quite handy. We are meeting on a regular basis now for sightseeing, workouts, and lots of sex. She had a lot of time to explore herself in the past, and she enjoys to try some of this with a partner. Lots of fun. So for you who are resident or spend more time in China than just a weekend, its worth giving it a try.

[Sinofaguo]

Thanks so much for all the valuable information posted here. I'll be in Shanghai staying near Yu Garden. Does anyone know of a place within walking distance that I can find some attractive 18-25 yr old company? Any help is appreciated. Unfortunately my hotel isn't an option for company.

We're waiting on your reports to give you more valuable info.

Looking forward to reading them.

[DaveHd967]

Hi all,

Thanks so much for all the valuable information posted here. I'll be in Shanghai staying near Yu Garden. Does anyone know of a place within walking distance that I can find some attractive 18-25 yr old company? Any help is appreciated. Unfortunately my hotel isn't an option for company.

[Midwestern]

Thanks. Problem with Nightlife Online is same as SNG. They only allow positive reviews, so they can mislead (and don't provide incentive for girls to deliver). So good to have independent reviews.

Yeah, the reviews on NLO are absolutely useless. Totally useless. Anyway, main reason why I reviewed Louissa is because she is new on there.

[The Guy]

I feel bad that I have been littering the board with requests for advice on maintaining an er nai (mistress), so here is a report.

Louissa on NLO is a good deal at 1200. Legit 25 years old. Firm bod. And a tad tallish, so she is lean. Her profile says A cup, which sometimes means flat, but she has a handful, and they are firm. Her profile also says CBJ, but to my pleasant surprise, she gives a good BBBJ. But she is a smoker in case that bothers anyone.

Thanks. Problem with Nightlife Online is same as SNG. They only allow positive reviews, so they can mislead (and don't provide incentive for girls to deliver). So good to have independent reviews.

[Midwestern]

I feel bad that I have been littering the board with requests for advice on maintaining an er nai (mistress), so here is an update on Rain's agency.

First, I hate Rain, but I recently re-connected with her (again, as she has blocked me several times already). You guys have to remember to not ask her any questions. Just tell her the girl, place, and time. That's it. It doesn't matter if you have never used Rain before. If you ask her anything, she will go ballistic. One time, she was offering discounts on her WeChat, and I asked her who was available for the discounted price, and after she told me, I told her that I was not interested in any of those girls, and she went ape shit crazy insane on me for wasting her time and blocked me.

Anyway, here is my update. Maybe her KTV closed during the crackdown and never reopened, because running the escort agency had previously been just a side job for Rain and her KTV girls. But these days, she is aggressively pimping her girls. It used to be that the same 2-3 girls were on matinee discounted prices (1000 incall or 1200 outcall) and overnight discounted prices (2000), but these days, around half or more of them are available each day at the discounted prices. And, she is regularly posting reviews of girls from punters, showing snapshots of their WeChat exchanges. She even sometimes offers discounted prices of 800 for matinee meetups. You just need to connect with her on WeChat to get these discounted prices.

Anyway, I don't have a field report on any specific girl, as their performance is nearly identical to one another. I met a third of them, maybe half of them. They all perform the same. Good unrushed BBBJ, and good FS. All pleasant gals. But one thing that I can say, at least for me, the prices are very accurate. That is, a 1500 gal is hotter than a 1200 gal. I guess they are self aware.

But keep in mind that many of us are nervous about using agencies these days, given what happened to Steven and SNG. So, just keep that in mind. And I suggest that you don't contact Rain using anything that can identify you. Rain has been known for outing mongers. For example, if you argue with her on email, then she will post your email address on her WeChat moments for all of us to see.

[Midwestern]

I feel bad that I have been littering the board with requests for advice on maintaining an er nai (mistress), so here is a report.

Louissa on NLO is a good deal at 1200. Legit 25 years old. Firm bod. And a tad tallish, so she is lean. Her profile says A cup, which sometimes means flat, but she has a handful, and they are firm. Her profile also says CBJ, but to my pleasant surprise, she gives a good BBBJ. But she is a smoker in case that bothers anyone.

[FLT09]

Nightlife Online is someone trying to fill the void that SNG left behind after Steven and his operators got arrested and jailed. The NLO owner thinks he has learned from Steven's mistakes. And he was able to recruit some of SNG's gals. As with SNG, he had gals that were indies and gals that used the operator. However, recently, he only has indies. You can find their site in classifieds.

Thanks for the info. What is the best way to go about finding Saunas now or are they more suspect to visit? I had a contact from SNG but he recently went dark on WeChat so I am assuming he changed it again so I have lost contact. He came to be a trusted host and always had a safe and quality Sauna for me to visit. That is my favorite avenue of p4 p but at a loss on how to find the good quality saunas now.

FLT.

[Midwestern]

At Keric333, thanks for sharing your experiences. Your suggestion to rent my own place is a good one that I didn't think about. I'the have to think about upkeep and bills, but I like the concept overall if I can rent from a landlord directly.

At DIU, the service apartment is a good idea, as my upkeep is taken care of, but maybe the formality may be an issue. I am going to check it out, as there is a Fraser Suites near me.

At Changlelu and at SamCan, yes!, I don't want so many hotel stays in my name. I used to rent at 268 Hotels, which was great because they are cheap, I can check in before noon usually, whenever I checked out early they'the refund me without hassle, and a lot of 268 Hotels are so run down that their elevators didn't even require key cards. BUT, there was a 20 year old indie that used to book ST hotels for us, and one day, she suddenly said she didn't want to book them anymore because she didn't want all those stays on her record. I was like WTF. Then I better stop booking so many rooms too.

[SamCan]

I like her booking the rooms for you. I have heard also 4 star and 5 stars tend to be safer. There is no perfect solution. There are cameras everywhere you go in China. MPs, hotels, etc.

When SNG was an option, I never liked the idea of using my phone. I called directly. SNG never had my phone number. They had my last name for the 24 hours I was there but that was it.

I am careful so I would go the 4 start route myself. Save the er nai money and stay in nice places when you screw for the difference.

SAM.

[Keric333]

Since this is the current topic, I guess I'll share what I've been doing and how I've been handling it.

First off, I would like to clarify that I'm single and I wouldn't consider this an mistress situation. I currently stay in Shanghai for the most part but I often travel back and forth from Guangzhou. There's a chick who lives in Guangzhou that I'm fond of. I found her a place and currently pay her rent (6500). We have an understanding that I stay there whenever I'm in Guangzhou. No other men are to stay there as well or at least don't let me catch whiff of it. I give a little something every month to the complex security to keep an eye on her for me. I've told her it's fine if she hooks up with other men as long as it's not in our apartment because honestly, there's no way of stopping her if she wanted to. It's too much of a hassle to be of a control freak.

Every month, I send her 5000 plus gifts from wherever I've been, which isn't too much. So basically, I'm paying for her to house sit the apartment and for her time whenever I head to Guangzhou. She would also fly here to shanghai whenever I ask her to if I needed her companionship.

I don't know if this is what you guys are looking for but I hope it helps to give an option of what can be done.

K.