East China - Shanghai

[The Guy]

Thought I would share a report of a visit to Shanghai the 12-16th. I read a lot of the forums and while not my first time to China, but it has been a long time. Shanghai has gotten really expensive for Mongering since my last visit. Also about the only action I found was at Judys. Lots of great looking Viets, but not cheap. First night in, and I wanted to get something quick so I ended up with a great looking Viet girl for 2000, after trying a few at 1000 then a few at 1200-1400 no takers for the lookers (I'm not terrible, tall 53 all my hair and very fit). As soon as we got to the room she was up for more money, and I told her No she was supposed to stay for 2 hours, but after one pop she was done. Went back a couple of nights later and pulled a Russian speaking Mongolian for 1400, she was tall with fake blonde hair and some euro in her, by far not the best in there but I thought she might give me a good ride, nope, same routine. I know I need to work on my mongering game for China and am open for suggestions. Wandering around Shanghai very few independents (I think 2 the whole trip) approached, but more touts than I ever remember. Long and the short of it, Shanghai is not a value stop for Mongering. In NYC you can get top shelf stuff off of seeking arrangement for 300 as a point of reference.

Other problem I ran into was cabs. First night it was easy, second night, a little later perhaps 2 am? It was a walk to the mainstreet and hunt for 20 minutes. I also even though I had Google maps running got taken on most of my Chinese cab trips.

Anyway, thought I would share my experiences.

Thanks for the report. Cabs are sometimes hard in Shanghai without the right app (DiDi). 1200 for ST usually works at Manhattan and Judy's. You might have just been unlucky. 2000 is LT (and even on the high end). Shanghai is not a budget monger's paradise, that's certainly true, but when the saunas are working you can get a 9 for US200. That would be hard to pull in NYC.

[SpiceCat]

Thanks everyone in this forum for providing valuable information.

I enjoy my time in the saunas and most of the girls seem to be very relaxed and enjoy their time. Like most of you, I too have been looking at the message boards and signs for things returning back to normal. I decided to check things out for myself and was disappointed to report that things are not nearly the same.

After receiving a lot of messages and photos from the WeChat Touts / agents, I decided to go try their "new" sauna.

It was relatively easy to find and the guy came to the street to pick me up. We went into the room that was laid out like a tea tasting shop to make the choice. Most of the good looking girls dashed out the moment they noticed a foreigner! Just a quick glance and they disappeared! Didn't quite understand why they appeared scared?

A couple unattractive ones (5-6) come to face me. The one an only attractive one with big boobs stood right in front of me and kept saying "lets go?

The agent told me that her price was a whopping 2500! She was a W and not on the regular menu.

Having been a victim of the long drought in Shanghai, I decided to go ahead. I also felt a little cornered and interested by the fact that she very attractive and seemed pretty keen.

After paying up front I got led away by the girl to another location. Some 250 m. Away, which turned out to be an apartment shared by some of the girls. It was a little empty but clean and comfortable. The shower was shared between 2 or possibly 3 bedrooms and wasn't luxurious. She showered me and pretended to shower together. When she came back into the bedroom she continues to clean me followed by a me CBJ before actually mounting me for a very lacklustre performance. She was Malaysian and spoke a little English, she claimed to be 20 years old but could have been younger. She had big rock hard tits which she wasn't letting me play with either. As soon as I came she wanted to know if I was happy with the service?

When I asked for another shot, she seemed to get panicked and asked me to go for another shower. Meanwhile, the girl in the next room was talking her client for a shower, so we waited and she just sat there on the edge of the bed waiting. She wasn't flirting or playful and the flirtiness at the line up was completely gone!

She told me she was hungry and I started sensing that she was getting scared. I didn't think the second shot would be any more entertaining than the first one, so I got up and got dressed and told her that I was going. She seemed relieved and went for a shower. An hour later, I got a message from the agent asking me the exact same question 'was I happy with the service? Worrying a little about the girl, I told him I was but told him that I wouldn't be opting for W / expensive service and that I was disappointed that the girls at the lineup didn't want to go with a foreigner. After all, they are taking you to a residential apartment which has the usual neighbours, security guards, cameras in the elevators.

I shall try out some of the other "New" Sauna / establishments / facilities being offered by my WeChat contacts and report back.

I hope to find one which is the same as the good old days.

[GatorEngineer]

Thought I would share a report of a visit to Shanghai the 12-16th. I read a lot of the forums and while not my first time to China, but it has been a long time. Shanghai has gotten really expensive for Mongering since my last visit. Also about the only action I found was at Judys. Lots of great looking Viets, but not cheap. First night in, and I wanted to get something quick so I ended up with a great looking Viet girl for 2000, after trying a few at 1000 then a few at 1200-1400 no takers for the lookers (I'm not terrible, tall 53 all my hair and very fit). As soon as we got to the room she was up for more money, and I told her No she was supposed to stay for 2 hours, but after one pop she was done. Went back a couple of nights later and pulled a Russian speaking Mongolian for 1400, she was tall with fake blonde hair and some euro in her, by far not the best in there but I thought she might give me a good ride, nope, same routine. I know I need to work on my mongering game for China and am open for suggestions. Wandering around Shanghai very few independents (I think 2 the whole trip) approached, but more touts than I ever remember. Long and the short of it, Shanghai is not a value stop for Mongering. In NYC you can get top shelf stuff off of seeking arrangement for 300 as a point of reference.

Other problem I ran into was cabs. First night it was easy, second night, a little later perhaps 2 am? It was a walk to the mainstreet and hunt for 20 minutes. I also even though I had Google maps running got taken on most of my Chinese cab trips.

Anyway, thought I would share my experiences.

[Faceless78]

Police are meeting bosses in Changning and giving them the all clear. In fact seems there is encouragement to offer more services and push boundaries. To make up for lost income across the chain. Some shops that closed, like the one on Panyu Lu mentioned a few pages back will open as veggie. But in that case for example the boss is slowly converting one of his "hand job only" places to a much more rich menu, with full awareness of his business partners.

It seems you are trying to raise some points but I really can't get it.

The Sauna places I know just running all most the same business as before. Just with different girls and probably different locations and price, but the system is the same.

[The Guy]

Everyone,

Judy's is on the same path as Manhattan's. There was another raid last week. Be careful going there. Get in, find someone then get out fast. Or better yet, go online and get some WeChats.

Actually, Manhattan's was open again tonight. While there's still some ambiguity, with Manhattan's back on the circuit and new saunas opening, it appears things are normalizing somewhat.

[SamCan]

Everyone,

Judy's is on the same path as Manhattan's. There was another raid last week. Be careful going there. Get in, find someone then get out fast. Or better yet, go online and get some WeChats.

Did they just go after the girls? What about the mongers? They used to come in and check passports. What exactly are they doing now?

[ShanghaiWanda]

At least I know some open ones. Not visited yet but see them post in we chat.

Everyday so I guess business is going on now.

Police are meeting bosses in Changning and giving them the all clear. In fact seems there is encouragement to offer more services and push boundaries. To make up for lost income across the chain. Some shops that closed, like the one on Panyu Lu mentioned a few pages back will open as veggie. But in that case for example the boss is slowly converting one of his "hand job only" places to a much more rich menu, with full awareness of his business partners.

[Faceless78]

This is encouraging! My last two trips to Shanghai had saunas closed up. Any saunas operating now?

I like saunas for the fishbowl / selection and the soapy action.

Any leads on open saunas? Please PM me know f you don't want to post.

Thanks!

At least I know some open ones. Not visited yet but see them post in we chat.

Everyday so I guess business is going on now.

[BbbJon66]

Everyone,

Judy's is on the same path as Manhattan's. There was another raid last week. Be careful going there. Get in, find someone then get out fast. Or better yet, go online and get some WeChats.

Had an up and down time at Judy's last weekend. It was dead (I. E. , full of guys) until band starts up at 9:30 pm, but many girls don't start arriving till past 10:30. Even though there were a lot more guys than girls, the girls circulated and there was actually some pretty good choice. First night I chose Ang, a lovely Viet, who readily agreed with 1 K for ST (probably could have negotiated less, but wasn't in the mood to dicker). And in my room, she was lovely, willing, and ready to please. Lots of great action with DFK, body licking, excellent BBBJ, and tight in multiple positions so that my release was loud and long. An A+ experience.

The next night I wanted an early evening, so looked around quickly. A pretty young Viet asked for 2 K, I countered with 1 K, she said 1. 5 K, and I said no. A few minutes later she comes back and agrees for 1 K. But in the room, she insisted on seeing the money beforehand. I'm a nice guy, but I said I never do that, so she said she'd leave. I said go ahead, and she did. So no play that night, didn't feel like heading back to Judy's, so will have to play another day. Sorry, I can't recall her name.

Win some, lose some. Ang was good enough that I felt overall positive about Judy's, and will look forward to returning. Hopefully Manhattan's will be open next time.

[Gislaved]

Received wechats from two formal contacts (managers) that they are operating normally now including nu-nu, one in minhang, one in jin-an / putuo area. Plan to try during the Christmas weekend. Please provide more information if you guy think it will be safe? Prices are up, about 1500 rmb /90 minutes, the lowest.

Just checked two of my old contacts, and all but one answered and they are open. Lowest price I have is 1198 rmb.

If it will be safe? Who knows. Given that these places are not exactly secrets and they have survived the bad weather, I guess they are well connected and it is relatively safe. I won't be in Shanghai for another few weeks, will keep an eye on this thread until then and make up my mind when there.

Cheers.

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[All For Bb]

Received wechats from two formal contacts (managers) that they are operating normally now including nu-nu, one in minhang, one in jin-an / putuo area. Plan to try during the Christmas weekend. Please provide more information if you guy think it will be safe? Prices are up, about 1500 rmb /90 minutes, the lowest.

[Mac The Night]

Hey guys,

I have been seeing quite a few wechat accounts being active again in posting adverts of new MPs. I have checked with my friend who owns one and have confirmed that it will only keep gaining pace. Guess things are looking good again for shanghai! Can't wait for my 14 days holiday in the January winter LOL.

This is encouraging! My last two trips to Shanghai had saunas closed up. Any saunas operating now?

I like saunas for the fishbowl / selection and the soapy action.

Any leads on open saunas? Please PM me know f you don't want to post.

Thanks!

[JudyWeven]

I've been to some massage parlor for some Happy Endings but I found this place this hidden gem that doesn't bargain and have girls that let you CIM (AKA KB in Chinese).

So, I found this parlor behind XieTu called Cahling road. There were about 8 girls in total. All are young and I would rate half of them 7's or 8's.

This place is often packed after 7 om and you will need to wait at the "lobby" for lack of better word. Most of the customers made appointments. I waited for about 15 min and they took me to a room upstairs to wait. They first showed me really big girl and I asked to see another one. Then came #1. I would give her a 7.

She was very friendly. The usually conversation took place (I. E. Where are you from, what do you do, how long have you been in town, etc.).

The massage routine started off pretty much the same, back massage starting from the neck working her way down to the feet. What's different from most parlor is she asked me to raise my butt and started rimming. This is common at a sauna but not from a MP. Next she asked me to turn around and started BBBJ. Man was she into it. She was going at it so hard that I came in her mouth. She kept sucking until my every last drop is sucked dry.

This is definitely a parlor that I will keep coming back. I have the QQ. PM me if interested.

[Leviton6]

I too would be interested in Jinqioa.

You paint a pretty bleak picture Dengar, it was so much better a year ago when I was there.

Sam.

On my many visits last year I never visited the places listed and I'm sure I will not see them back running like they once were. My only fun will be Judy's and I hope it never changes. I love the live band and have always found it fun whether it was busy or not. Can't wait until next month.