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Due credit
Originally Posted by Midwestern
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The police going to all that trouble means they want her testimony because they desperately want to bust her boss / owner, and given that she took that beating (just to avoid a measly 4 week jail sentence) means that she's terrified of her boss / owner. But bless her heart. Poor gal. Hope you gave her some extra money or other help.
The 15 days or 4 week sentence is for the first time they are convicted. The second time is 1 1/2 years of rehabilitation.
I don't think she is afraid of her boss. I think she has courage and deserves credit for that.
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Originally Posted by FiveAces
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There has been some talk in high places in the last couple of years about Chinese citizens and their rights. And not getting beat up for trying to lodge complaints etc. But I guess it takes a while to trickle down. For example:
The world famous #18 was caught in a raid in July. In order to get her to confess to providing oral sex services she was interrogated for 3 hours. During that time she acquired a square foot of bruises on her joints and had an electric prod used on her twice. She didn't confess. It was all, just massage no funny business.
Plus she still has marks from the handcuffs.
The police going to all that trouble means they want her testimony because they desperately want to bust her boss / owner, and given that she took that beating (just to avoid a measly 4 week jail sentence) means that she's terrified of her boss / owner. But bless her heart. Poor gal. Hope you gave her some extra money or other help.
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A medal for #18
There has been some talk in high places in the last couple of years about Chinese citizens and their rights. And not getting beat up for trying to lodge complaints etc. But I guess it takes a while to trickle down. For example:
The world famous #18 was caught in a raid in July. In order to get her to confess to providing oral sex services she was interrogated for 3 hours. During that time she acquired a square foot of bruises on her joints and had an electric prod used on her twice. She didn't confess. It was all, just massage no funny business.
Plus she still has marks from the handcuffs.
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Originally Posted by Midwestern
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Freebie from a hotel spa? LOL. There's no way. I gave a FR in the Beijing thread (probably in January of this year) about the experience. In short, my flight was supposed to arrive in the afternoon. I was going to order outcall before dinner, and then invite an indie over after drinking with friends that same night. But, my flight got super delayed. I arrived at the Crowne Wangfujing at around midnight. So, I just texted Kitty to send over a girl and to my surprise she said that my hotel is too strict, especially because it was so late. This is the first time she refused to send a girl. So, I texted the indie, and again to my surprise she said the same thing, that my hotel specifically and that Wangfujing in general are strict, especially given that it was after midnight. So, I was frustrated and desperate, and just ordered room service from the hotel spa. The guy on the phone asks me if I'm staying alone and I say yes. The girl that arrives a few minutes later is the usual 3. Her body was average, but she had a fat face. Oh well. Anyway, I asked her the cost of a massage, and she says 500. But on the spa menu on the nightstand, there is no massage that costs 500. But she says that's the price, so I said okay. And then I ask what's the price for FS, and she quoted me something outrageous and I eventually got her to settle for 2000. Anyway, after multiple positions, I was tired and I couldn't pop, so I took off the cover and started raw dogging her. Don't lecture me. I know it was a huge f**king mistake. But after a half hour of raw dogging, I still couldn't pop and my hour was up, so she left. The next morning, I tried to check out, but the hotel said that I already paid for 2 nights so I couldn't get a refund for the 2nd night. This annoyed me, but I tried to make the best of it. That afternoon, I ordered a girl from Kittys. I'm pretty sure it was Linxi who is now listed on NLO. The funny thing is that I told Linxi to meet me on the 2nd floor, and while walking around waiting for her, I saw the girl from the night before working at the gift shop counter, LOL. Anyway, after a good session with Linxi, I was sitting in my hotel room wondering what I was going to do that night wrt to mongering, and then I just decided to check out early and eat the cost. I then checked into another hotel, one far from Wangfujing, and went on a mongering rampage to make up for lost time. Whoops, I didn't keep this short. Sorry.
Speaking of freebies. I actually scored one recently. It's kind of a decent story, so in case any of you guys are interested, here it is: There's a legit MP that I've been going to for many years. It's the kind of place where I have to grit my teeth almost the entire time because the massage is super painful, sometimes I scream in pain, but I feel great afterwards. Anyway, about a year ago, I get massaged by a skinny MILF at this shop. She is friendly, loves to laugh, and has a great smile. So, I started requesting her on a regular basis. She is at least 40, is married, and has a teenage daughter. Anyway, during the hot summer, I noticed that she wasn't wearing a shirt under her uniform top. So, every once in a while, I caught glimpses of her stomach and lower back. It started to turn me on, but I didn't do anything. But the last time I saw her to get a massage, I gave her a hug, and to my surprise, she pressed her entire body against me. So, I took the cue and started caressing her, and then tried to kiss her, but she resisted at first, but finally gave in. Anyway, for the rest of that hour, we were all over each other. That night, I texted her that liked her. She texted back that she liked me too, but we could never do that again at her work place. So, I asked her what should we do? She said let's meet at a hotel on her next day off. And so we did. For someone in her 40's, she has a pretty fit body. I guess giving legit massages keeps her fit. Anyway, after raw dogging for over an hour, her phone starts ringing. She tells me it's her husband and she has to spend the day with him. Apparently, he moved to Shanghai for a temporary job. So she quickly gets dressed and takes off. I text her, asking if she can return, and she says no. And, that was it. Later that night, she texted me to never text her again. She said that from now on, she'll text me. But I haven't heard from her since. But this was recent, so I'm still holding out hope. Again, sorry for the long useless story.
Let me offer the following possibly useful info, as a way of apology if you feel like you wasted your time reading my useless stories above. Rain's website is back up. And now she is actually listing the girls' direct contacts (but there are only a handful of girls listed). So, if you think it's safer to contact girls directly, then there you go. But I'm not going to partake, because I want nothing to do with Rain from now on.
BTW, at Rodneey, I totally agree with your most recent post.
Yeah, I've seduced a few legit massage girls as well. I guess they get horny doing all those massages.
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Rtff
Originally Posted by Sands007
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I will be visiting Shanghai end of this month. Looking for help with some indie or MP contacts. Thanks!
Sands, I realize the Indian forums do things differently, where you guys simply just frantically beg each other for contacts. But in the Shanghai forum, many members frequently post useful intel, so you just need to spend an hour and RTFF. Trust me.
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Visiting Shanghai
I will be visiting Shanghai end of this month. Looking for help with some indie or MP contacts. Thanks!
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Red rope
Where I can book a "red rope" service in Shanghai? Your photo looks very horny bro).
Thanks.
BXT.
Originally Posted by Intransit
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Not my image, caption, or dick, but the red rope used to be the best thing about the Shanghai scene. Maybe one day we'll see its triumphant return. RIP red rope.
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Originally Posted by Midwestern
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Let me offer the following possibly useful info, as a way of apology if you feel like you wasted your time reading my useless stories above.
Midwest, it is always a pleasure to read your exploits. I especially like your entrepreneurial spirit during these difficult times.
Stay safe!
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Originally Posted by Changlelu
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Hey Midwest, don't keep us guessing LOL. How did it progress?
Thanks for all your good reports over the years!
Cheers.
Freebie from a hotel spa? LOL. There's no way. I gave a FR in the Beijing thread (probably in January of this year) about the experience. In short, my flight was supposed to arrive in the afternoon. I was going to order outcall before dinner, and then invite an indie over after drinking with friends that same night. But, my flight got super delayed. I arrived at the Crowne Wangfujing at around midnight. So, I just texted Kitty to send over a girl and to my surprise she said that my hotel is too strict, especially because it was so late. This is the first time she refused to send a girl. So, I texted the indie, and again to my surprise she said the same thing, that my hotel specifically and that Wangfujing in general are strict, especially given that it was after midnight. So, I was frustrated and desperate, and just ordered room service from the hotel spa. The guy on the phone asks me if I'm staying alone and I say yes. The girl that arrives a few minutes later is the usual 3. Her body was average, but she had a fat face. Oh well. Anyway, I asked her the cost of a massage, and she says 500. But on the spa menu on the nightstand, there is no massage that costs 500. But she says that's the price, so I said okay. And then I ask what's the price for FS, and she quoted me something outrageous and I eventually got her to settle for 2000. Anyway, after multiple positions, I was tired and I couldn't pop, so I took off the cover and started raw dogging her. Don't lecture me. I know it was a huge f**king mistake. But after a half hour of raw dogging, I still couldn't pop and my hour was up, so she left. The next morning, I tried to check out, but the hotel said that I already paid for 2 nights so I couldn't get a refund for the 2nd night. This annoyed me, but I tried to make the best of it. That afternoon, I ordered a girl from Kittys. I'm pretty sure it was Linxi who is now listed on NLO. The funny thing is that I told Linxi to meet me on the 2nd floor, and while walking around waiting for her, I saw the girl from the night before working at the gift shop counter, LOL. Anyway, after a good session with Linxi, I was sitting in my hotel room wondering what I was going to do that night wrt to mongering, and then I just decided to check out early and eat the cost. I then checked into another hotel, one far from Wangfujing, and went on a mongering rampage to make up for lost time. Whoops, I didn't keep this short. Sorry.
Speaking of freebies. I actually scored one recently. It's kind of a decent story, so in case any of you guys are interested, here it is: There's a legit MP that I've been going to for many years. It's the kind of place where I have to grit my teeth almost the entire time because the massage is super painful, sometimes I scream in pain, but I feel great afterwards. Anyway, about a year ago, I get massaged by a skinny MILF at this shop. She is friendly, loves to laugh, and has a great smile. So, I started requesting her on a regular basis. She is at least 40, is married, and has a teenage daughter. Anyway, during the hot summer, I noticed that she wasn't wearing a shirt under her uniform top. So, every once in a while, I caught glimpses of her stomach and lower back. It started to turn me on, but I didn't do anything. But the last time I saw her to get a massage, I gave her a hug, and to my surprise, she pressed her entire body against me. So, I took the cue and started caressing her, and then tried to kiss her, but she resisted at first, but finally gave in. Anyway, for the rest of that hour, we were all over each other. That night, I texted her that liked her. She texted back that she liked me too, but we could never do that again at her work place. So, I asked her what should we do? She said let's meet at a hotel on her next day off. And so we did. For someone in her 40's, she has a pretty fit body. I guess giving legit massages keeps her fit. Anyway, after raw dogging for over an hour, her phone starts ringing. She tells me it's her husband and she has to spend the day with him. Apparently, he moved to Shanghai for a temporary job. So she quickly gets dressed and takes off. I text her, asking if she can return, and she says no. And, that was it. Later that night, she texted me to never text her again. She said that from now on, she'll text me. But I haven't heard from her since. But this was recent, so I'm still holding out hope. Again, sorry for the long useless story.
Let me offer the following possibly useful info, as a way of apology if you feel like you wasted your time reading my useless stories above. Rain's website is back up. And now she is actually listing the girls' direct contacts (but there are only a handful of girls listed). So, if you think it's safer to contact girls directly, then there you go. But I'm not going to partake, because I want nothing to do with Rain from now on.
BTW, at Rodneey, I totally agree with your most recent post.
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Freebie?
Originally Posted by Midwestern
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One time when I was in Beijing, I ordered room service at Crowne Plaza Hotel. Got FS, and the next day I saw that girl working at the hotel gift shop, LOL.
Hey Midwest, don't keep us guessing LOL. How did it progress?
Thanks for all your good reports over the years!
Cheers.
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It really feels like it's time to give up
OK fellas, I know, this is only my 2nd ever post on ISG, and that I have been a lurker on here for a couple of years, but I hope I can bring something to the discussion.
I have lived in Shanghai for 6 years, and I agree with the posters below that this is by far the worst time to monger in Shanghai, and I'm now thinking of giving up for good. Now compared to some regular posters here, my mongering over the years has been very light. I have no experience of the saunas whatsoever, I have done takeout at Ms only once. Back in 2014 (I can't take anyone home these days for reasons you can probably guess), and my activity has mainly consisted of MPs (Spring etc.) with the usual extras thrown in.
Up to a couple of years ago it was nice, simple, and discrete. But now, given how LE and local govt has cracked down so heavily on the scene, I'm just not in the mood for it anymore. Here are my main reasons:
- However low the risk is, a quick HJ in an MP now just doesn't seem worth it. I run a business here that's going great, and I have an awful lot to lose if ever I was the slightest bit involved in a raid.
- The constant feeling of being watched. Whenever I feel like visiting a MP, more often than not, there'll be some shady looking guy sitting on a scooter in the street near the entrance surveying the situation. Of course I understand he may be there to raise the alarm in case the LE come knocking, but it just puts me on edge, and more often than not, just makes walk away and go home.
- The huge increases in price. When things go from 188 to 600 (or more depending on the tips they ask for) for the same service in just 3 or 4 years, it sure doesn't make you feel like going so often.
- The fact that you can no longer take a shower in the room. The last HJ I had was in July (Ronghua E road in case anyone is desperate for an underwhelming HJ, 298 +200 tip by a slightly plump 6 wearing trousers, plus I'm not even sure it's still open), and I was just wiped down with some hot towels afterwards. Not cool.
So there we go, I think I'm done, unless things to go back to how they were, but I highly doubt it.
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Hotel Spa action
Originally Posted by RedHawk
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Hi folks,
I am staying in one of the better 5* hotels in Xintiandi, I leave shanghai tomorrow and fancied a good legit massage in my hotel spa. Now the Spa is expensive and you expect a nice massage.
Started off good but not fantastic, she kept asking me questions when I wanted to chill. On the flip she started teasing me by touching my cock and licking my nipples.
Please I said to myself, not today I want to relax.
She asked for 1000 I counter offered 500. After much negotiating from her side she finally caved and gave me a very mediocre HJ. I did let my fingers inside her knickers and she was proper wet, I fingered her while she was giving me attention. It drove her wild.
I'm now in my room and getting ready for bed.
Take care guys.
Red.
I've said this many times, but I'll say it again. I've always been surprised by the lack of reports on ordering room service from the hotel spa. Is it because we don't want the hotel to get into trouble? Anyway, at most Western hotels (e. G. Marriott, etc), an expensive mechanical HJ is usually available. At Chinese hotels (any hotel with a Chinese name), FS is almost always available, but the girl is usually a 3 and the tip is crazy expensive, like 2000. But, I sometimes still order room service because it's super convenient. The girl is at your room within minutes of you calling. When you call them, they will often ask if you're alone, to make sure you're not with your wife and asking for a legit massage. One time when I was in Beijing, I ordered room service at Crowne Plaza Hotel. Got FS, and the next day I saw that girl working at the hotel gift shop, LOL.
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5* hotel HJ
Hi folks,
I am staying in one of the better 5* hotels in Xintiandi, I leave shanghai tomorrow and fancied a good legit massage in my hotel spa. Now the Spa is expensive and you expect a nice massage.
Started off good but not fantastic, she kept asking me questions when I wanted to chill. On the flip she started teasing me by touching my cock and licking my nipples.
Please I said to myself, not today I want to relax.
She asked for 1000 I counter offered 500. After much negotiating from her side she finally caved and gave me a very mediocre HJ. I did let my fingers inside her knickers and she was proper wet, I fingered her while she was giving me attention. It drove her wild.
I'm now in my room and getting ready for bed.
Take care guys.
Red.
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Originally Posted by Xavter
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Anyway, given the state of affairs in Shanghai, I think I should just cancel my trip. I was looking forward to seeing the sites and getting to know Shanghai, but my goal was to have fun at night too. With my lack of knowledge and experience in Shanghai, feels like my odds are low that I'll be very successful. While my ticket is non-refundable, eating $400 is better than spending the several thousands I was prepared to spend. Anyway, I feel like an idiot for not doing more research ahead of time but was really hoping for some feedback from those with more experience.
Should I cancel or is it worth salvaging somehow?
You saw the recent excellent reports on M and J from HookLineSinker and Tiger21. So, if that's your thing, then those are options. However, reliable intel from other members suggest that those joints might soon close temporarily with the 70th anniversary of CCP around the corner. The outcall agencies are unreliable IMHO, with the exception of Nightlife. The strange thing about Shanghai is that they don't have discreet MPs with FS on the menu that SPECIALLY cater to Westerners like they do in Beijing (but these types of establishments suck anyway because the girls are usually old 3's, so no big loss). And now there are no BBSs or saunas, at least none that are easily accessible. This leaves MPs, but standard tip is 300 for mechanical HJ. Hope this helps with your decision.
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Originally Posted by Xavter
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Couple of weeks ago, I ran across a great deal for an airline ticket to Shanghai from the East Coast city which I'm from. Only $379 round trip on a decent airline. Had a bunch of Marriott points to burn so I thought I'd have myself my first overseas hobby adventure. Never mind that I don't know a lick of Chinese. I quickly bought the ticket before the sale ended thinking about all the tales I'd heard about the terrific and plentiful action in Shanghai. Few days ago, I get around to doing some research and ran across this great site. Much to my dismay, I start reading page after page about how abysmal things are with the LE crackdown and lack of action anywhere. It really kind of depressing to think what I missed in earlier times. Only wish I was there to see it.
Anyway, given the state of affairs in Shanghai, I think I should just cancel my trip. I was looking forward to seeing the sites and getting to know Shanghai, but my goal was to have fun at night too. With my lack of knowledge and experience in Shanghai, feels like my odds are low that I'll be very successful. While my ticket is non-refundable, eating $400 is better than spending the several thousands I was prepared to spend. Anyway, I feel like an idiot for not doing more research ahead of time but was really hoping for some feedback from those with more experience.
Should I cancel or is it worth salvaging somehow?
As someone who has lived in Shanghai for the last 10 years, I would say right now is by far the worst time to monger and things will not get better any time soon. All the amazing saunas are long gone, and the remaining options are super expensive with average service. For the price of a girl at Manhattans / Judy's, you would be better off saving that money for places like Thailand, Philippines, or Indonesia where you will get much more "bang" for your buck and better service. Sure, you might stumble upon an occasional gem at M & J, but you will be competing with tons of Chinese punters who are top of the food chain at those establishments. On top of this, the weather in Shanghai has been very risky this year, and with the upcoming National Week (70th anniversary of founding of PRC, quite a big deal for the country), there is an elevated risk of LE activity. M & J have been raided before. There are online options like Nightlife Online and Massage Republic, but the quality is not great. I would say, if you have time, fly to SH but add on a side trip to TH / PH / ID and save your money for those places. Safe travels.
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