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09-15-19 07:53 #13537
Posts: 45It really feels like it's time to give up
OK fellas, I know, this is only my 2nd ever post on ISG, and that I have been a lurker on here for a couple of years, but I hope I can bring something to the discussion.
I have lived in Shanghai for 6 years, and I agree with the posters below that this is by far the worst time to monger in Shanghai, and I'm now thinking of giving up for good. Now compared to some regular posters here, my mongering over the years has been very light. I have no experience of the saunas whatsoever, I have done takeout at Ms only once. Back in 2014 (I can't take anyone home these days for reasons you can probably guess), and my activity has mainly consisted of MPs (Spring etc.) with the usual extras thrown in.
Up to a couple of years ago it was nice, simple, and discrete. But now, given how LE and local govt has cracked down so heavily on the scene, I'm just not in the mood for it anymore. Here are my main reasons:
- However low the risk is, a quick HJ in an MP now just doesn't seem worth it. I run a business here that's going great, and I have an awful lot to lose if ever I was the slightest bit involved in a raid.
- The constant feeling of being watched. Whenever I feel like visiting a MP, more often than not, there'll be some shady looking guy sitting on a scooter in the street near the entrance surveying the situation. Of course I understand he may be there to raise the alarm in case the LE come knocking, but it just puts me on edge, and more often than not, just makes walk away and go home.
- The huge increases in price. When things go from 188 to 600 (or more depending on the tips they ask for) for the same service in just 3 or 4 years, it sure doesn't make you feel like going so often.
- The fact that you can no longer take a shower in the room. The last HJ I had was in July (Ronghua E road in case anyone is desperate for an underwhelming HJ, 298 +200 tip by a slightly plump 6 wearing trousers, plus I'm not even sure it's still open), and I was just wiped down with some hot towels afterwards. Not cool.
So there we go, I think I'm done, unless things to go back to how they were, but I highly doubt it.
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09-15-19 00:59 #13536
Posts: 1202Hotel Spa action
Originally Posted by RedHawk [View Original Post]
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09-14-19 18:10 #13535
Posts: 905* hotel HJ
Hi folks,
I am staying in one of the better 5* hotels in Xintiandi, I leave shanghai tomorrow and fancied a good legit massage in my hotel spa. Now the Spa is expensive and you expect a nice massage.
Started off good but not fantastic, she kept asking me questions when I wanted to chill. On the flip she started teasing me by touching my cock and licking my nipples.
Please I said to myself, not today I want to relax.
She asked for 1000 I counter offered 500. After much negotiating from her side she finally caved and gave me a very mediocre HJ. I did let my fingers inside her knickers and she was proper wet, I fingered her while she was giving me attention. It drove her wild.
I'm now in my room and getting ready for bed.
Take care guys.
Red.
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09-13-19 07:40 #13534
Posts: 1202Originally Posted by Xavter [View Original Post]
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09-13-19 06:23 #13533
Posts: 25Originally Posted by Xavter [View Original Post]
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09-12-19 17:44 #13532
Posts: 265My advice
Originally Posted by Xavter [View Original Post]
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09-12-19 17:15 #13531
Posts: 7Xavter's options.
Originally Posted by Xavter [View Original Post]
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09-12-19 04:31 #13530
Posts: 26So. I probably made a big mistake
Couple of weeks ago, I ran across a great deal for an airline ticket to Shanghai from the East Coast city which I'm from. Only $379 round trip on a decent airline. Had a bunch of Marriott points to burn so I thought I'd have myself my first overseas hobby adventure. Never mind that I don't know a lick of Chinese. I quickly bought the ticket before the sale ended thinking about all the tales I'd heard about the terrific and plentiful action in Shanghai. Few days ago, I get around to doing some research and ran across this great site. Much to my dismay, I start reading page after page about how abysmal things are with the LE crackdown and lack of action anywhere. It really kind of depressing to think what I missed in earlier times. Only wish I was there to see it.
Anyway, given the state of affairs in Shanghai, I think I should just cancel my trip. I was looking forward to seeing the sites and getting to know Shanghai, but my goal was to have fun at night too. With my lack of knowledge and experience in Shanghai, feels like my odds are low that I'll be very successful. While my ticket is non-refundable, eating $400 is better than spending the several thousands I was prepared to spend. Anyway, I feel like an idiot for not doing more research ahead of time but was really hoping for some feedback from those with more experience.
Should I cancel or is it worth salvaging somehow?
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09-11-19 23:21 #13529
Posts: 362Originally Posted by Bexitrum [View Original Post]
Besides this kind of activity even when saunas were still massivly around has been removed following some incidents several years ago. Hence why the post you answered to is written using the past tense.
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09-10-19 18:15 #13528
Posts: 90M and J update
I second that. I was also in M on Sunday too. Last time I was there was probably a year ago.
And what a difference. Lot less ladies and more Asian men. I also noticed the hotties where only interested in Asian men, as not many ladies so they could take their pick of the crop. I soon bolted and went to J's.
J's was a similar story however some of the girls in there looked very young, I was wondering if one or two of them were [CodeWord903].
The hotties were cold. So I settled for an older lady. Warmed up to her inside and we had a great time in the bar and in the room. I had 2 rounds and asked her to leave as I had work the next day. Damage 2 k as I gave her a 500 tip, hoping the word gets around to her younger friends. Will pop in again tomorrow to see if that worked. However it could go south if she latches on.
Originally Posted by HookLineSinker [View Original Post]
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09-10-19 14:46 #13527
Posts: 7Manhattan Update
Dropped by Manhattan at 10.00 pm last Sunday.
Have not visited Shanghai in about a decade, so I've zero reference point to comment on it's trajectory. But the place was about 70% full, so not bad for a Sunday.
The most interesting change was that the best talent only wanted to go with Japanese, Korean and North Asian men generally. The extent of this surprised me. In hindsight, it probably should not have. It went down like this.
Walked through the door. Usual set up. Women around the fringes. Best towards the front, worst towards the back where lighting is darkest.
Surprise No. 1: Most of the tables accommodated 2-3 men, drinking and shooting shit. Out of about 20 tables of men, maybe only 3 or 4 of them had attracted women to sit or stand with them. I began to wonder why.
Surprise No. 2: Immediately grabbed a drink at the bar and began a walk around the edges, assessing prospects. Standard was good enough. Lots of 6-7's and a surprisingly good number of 7-8's. Thought I even caught a glimpse of a few 8-9's. Of course these ratings might go down a notch if viewing at the beach, but in the dim light of M, they were better than I anticipated. We all have different classifications, but if you dial-up or down my scores by 1, you'll be about right. I began to think tonight would be a success.
Surprise No. 3: Approached Viet hottie by the side wall. Solid 8, about 20 yo who responded with a smile. Began to chat, but approach went cold. Like, ice old. Moved on within a couple of minutes to Viet hottie number 2, similar age and rating. Same shit show. Smile, introduce, then cold. Checked myself to see if I had two heads, vomit on my shirt or some sort of new growth on my face, but immediately realized that I had the usual form that gets me laid at bars in my home town. Began to think WTF but reminded myself that M is like shooting in a barrel and got over it in a millisecond.
Surprise No. 4: Grabbed a table near the front. Hot Russian pole dancers disrobed within reach, reminding me of wives and girlfriends. Then bar manager brings two Korean or Japanese dudes to the table next to me. I immediately sense movement by the back wall. Like some sort of seismic event. Within a blink of an eye, two of the youngest 9's in the place appear, floating within a foot or two of the new Jap-orean dudes. The guys order 12 Corona's and then another three 8-9's arrive. Holy fuck, these are the same women who blanked me. So I'm now catching on to the fact that seemingly all the best, youngest tottie were hunting a particular type of man.
Meanwhile, Viet hottie number 3 swings by for a chat with me, seemingly following the swarm of chicks around the table next to me. She looked like a low-light 9 but no doubt a solid mid-20's 7-8. My MO for the evening was to smash and grab, so I probed for potential. Positive responses to all the tough questions. Promised all the tricks, super friendly, good enough english, 1. 5 K for a fling and 2. 5 K until tomorrow. Explained that I don't need sleep, that I want to repeat all night lomg and the deal was done within 20 minutes of arrival. Out the door and into the street.
Seasoned observers will see the mistake that I made. For the rest of you, here it is.
Back in the room, she's super friendly. Great body. Pretty face. Natural looking fake tits. Good all round 8 in the well lot hotel room. DFK, BBBJ with lots of spit. So far so good.
Asks for cash up front. Fuck. Are you kidding. Conversation ensues. I don't bend my rule of cash after. Never will. But I do show her the cash in the safe so she knows its there and we get back to business.
Get fucking and this chick is great. Really into it. I've put the awkward cash demand behind me and am back in the moment.
I hear her tell me something anls I am doing her from behind. I thought she said 'again'. We'd been fucking for about 5 mins, so I'm taking this as a good sign. So I keep going at it for another 5 mins. The fucking was great, but gentle enough by my book. We were just warming up. The missus gets fucked way rougher / harder / longer / deeper than this.
I go to change from position No1, to try a second position, and said hooker tells me she has 'pain'. I'm thinking, FTF? This is your occupation, we've been at it for about 10 mins in low to moderate intensity. I'm average size at best, probably less than. She can't be serious.
So she goes for a blow job for a few minutes befire I enquire on the well being of her pussy.
She tells me it's to painful. Again, WTF? That I'm too big, WTF?
Long story short, she wants to sleep and presumably hide her pussy from me until morning and take the full freight cash payment. I tell her it's time for her to go, that she's hit, the fuck was good for the few minutes it lasted and that here is the 1.5 k she earned in the hour or so that she had been in the room. That's a shitload of cash by the way, in any middle-class setting. I was being generous because I realized that I had let myself be screwed and that it was my fault for not seeing the signs.
A few minutes of debate and I kick her out quietly with 2 K.
Moral of the story. 1) The hotties at M are hunting north Asian dudes, seeking quick, light fuck for full price; 2) when the ***** demanded cash up front, I should have given her 200 K and said goodbye immediately; 3) I was played and should have seen the signs right back at the bar when I was approached, as she was obviously too keen and I was pussy whipped by the situation playing out.
Lesson learned.
Interestingly, both hotel rooms on either side of mine (4 star hotel) played out some high emotion hooker crying. 'You pay me', 'I am very angry' kind of shit. I reckon they are playing the game at M.
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09-10-19 12:27 #13526
Posts: 30Weekly charge
Originally Posted by Tiger21 [View Original Post]
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09-10-19 05:02 #13525
Posts: 3How to find this service "red-rope?
Can anyone tell me how to find this amazing service in Shanghai?
Thanks.
Originally Posted by Intransit [View Original Post]
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09-08-19 23:02 #13524
Posts: 13J and The Spot
Originally Posted by Tiger21 [View Original Post]
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09-07-19 22:14 #13523
Posts: 4Some maybe helpful information
Hey guys,
I was just talking to one of my contacts in Shanghai and she mentioned that Judy's and Manhattan charge the WG about 1000 rmb every week or so, otherwise they are no longer allowed at the bar. I'm not sure if this is true for every girl but I saw her wechat conversations with the manager for Judy's. Anyways do with the information as you will, I thought it might help some of you in negotiating.