East China - Shanghai

[Bfsie]

Hi everybody,

How about public bath place? I heard a lot of bath places in Shanghai offer FS. Can anybody recommend any bath place which offer full service? What is the price range? Thank you for the advice.

[Tazman099]

When I RTFF going a few years back, it seems Tang Dynasty Sauna was a top tier and popular joint. I have not seen much posted about the place lately. Is it still in business? And what is its current state for play? Thanks.

I went there about a year ago, nothing remarkable. The biggest upside is not having to change clothes in a common locker room. Can wear your street clothes to your private room. But it is pretty far south min hang, I found there to be much closer alternatives.

Taz.

[Hobbiest1]

Bill. That's an easy answer. Check out Judy's. I have pulled many hot V girls from there. Also. I stay at the Purple Mountain and they hang out in the bar there as well. I will be there last week of this Month if you want to grab a drink. See ya soon Scamhai

Gents,

I am led to believe by many WGs in Saigon, that there is a favored haunt (bar / club) that specialises in Vietnamese girls. I know many a girl that has gone to Shanghai for a week or two, but I have never been successful of finding out the name and location of this specialty bar / club.

Please send me a PM with details.

Kindest regards,

Bill.

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[NorthSouth]

When I RTFF going a few years back, it seems Tang Dynasty Sauna was a top tier and popular joint. I have not seen much posted about the place lately. Is it still in business? And what is its current state for play? Thanks.

[Bad Boy Billy]

I am led to believe by many WGs in Saigon, that there is a favored haunt (bar / club) that specialises in Vietnamese girls.................., but I have never been successful of finding out the name and location of this specialty bar / club.

Please send me a PM with details.

No need for a PM - 2 bars. Manhattan at 154 Nanyang Rd, Jing'an, and Judys 142 Tongren Rd, Jing'an, - both extremely well known.

[SamCan]

For reference, I'm Asian and grew up in Canada but I speak decent Chinese. This is all a lot easier if you speak Chinese or know someone who does.

The bottom line is, my advice is to always pay for sex with working girls. They'll view it as a transaction and save you a lot of headache down the road. It also makes sense cost and safety wise.

You are soooo right! Based on my experience, there is nothing more expensive than a freebie.

SAM.

[ChelseaBill]

Gents,

I am led to believe by many WGs in Saigon, that there is a favored haunt (bar / club) that specialises in Vietnamese girls. I know many a girl that has gone to Shanghai for a week or two, but I have never been successful of finding out the name and location of this specialty bar / club.

Please send me a PM with details.

Kindest regards,

Bill.

[Tasss]

For reference, I'm Asian and grew up in Canada but I speak decent Chinese. This is all a lot easier if you speak Chinese or know someone who does.

Very nice summary of the options available to Chinese speakers. The other option I've tried was banyou.com which is a freelancer site. Prior to going to the Philippines earlier this month, I've never really had much experience with freelancers but I found out that a good interview technique is very important to filtering out the non-GFEs you may encounter on banyou or wechat.

[Tazman099]

If anyone has a contact at either place, I'd greatly appreciate a pm with the info. I was at Bodi once, but always feel I get better service if I have a contact in hand (and never been to siyuan).

I can help with information (contacts) in the gubei / min hang area.

Cheers,

Taz.

BTW: seems min hang is starting to open back up.

[Kylian]

For reference, I'm Asian and grew up in Canada but I speak decent Chinese. This is all a lot easier if you speak Chinese or know someone who does.

Minhang, Yangpu, Putuo, and Hongkou districts have the most plentiful and cost effective mongering opportunities because rent is cheaper but they're still near the city center. There are various ways to gain access. Websites, QQ groups, WeChat, or local friends.

1) KTVs: price range 1500-3000+ per person.

Chinese guys don't come to these places strictly for the sex. They do this for bro-bonding and business purposes, or whenever they feel like having a bachelor party though no one's getting married. Go early, like 6 pm early. The later you go, the bigger the chance that you'll be stuck with the leftover girls of the night. KTV is broken into two stages. The party in the room, and the sex afterwards. The first stage is obviously cheaper if you go with a larger group because you can split the cost of the room and the tip to the mamasan and DJ. You also need to pay a separate tip to the girl whom you picked to party with you. Be prepared to pay 1000-1500+ for the first stage at a minimum. Sex with the KTV girl is by no means guaranteed; it's usually a negotiation between you and the girl, and sometimes she will refuse to go with you. If she's interested, she'll suggest that you all go for hotpot afterwards or something similar. Be prepared to pay an additional 800-1500 for sex, though in rare cases it can be had for free if she really likes you. I don't recommend the free route though (lots of potential drama down the road).

Final note, KTVs are broken into two broad categories: "herbivore" places ("suchang") and "carnivore" places ("hunchang" In herbivore places, the girls don't get naked and the most you can do in the KTV room is probably just kiss them. In carnivore places, you play these games where everyone takes all their clothes off, and you can do pretty much everything short of actual sex in the KTV room. Girls from carnivore places are much more likely to have sex with you afterwards. I know some KTV girls from herbivore places that claim to have never had sex with a customer.

2) Saunas: price range 500-2000.

I sometimes go to these places if I'm bored and have 3-4 hours to kill. Unlike at KTVs, sex here is guaranteed. You can do the sauna stuff (it's usually included in the price), relax for a bit, and then when you're ready, pick a girl from a lineup of anywhere from 3 to 20+ girls (depending on the size of the place and how busy it is). Girls are categorized (priced) based on height, fairness of skin, facial features, and which part of China they're from. Not on service. Most are in the 800-1200 range. Stereotypically, girls from places like Sichuan and Hunan tend to be shorter and less pricey, while girls from Shanghai and Beijing tend to be expensive. Service time is 60-90 minutes depending on the place. Service standards are on average the best out of all mongering options, because girls in these places are usually fined if a customer complains.

3) Massage parlors: price range 200-450.

There are four categories of MPs; ranked from cheapest to most expensive: massage+HJ ("tuiyou" or TY), massage+BBBJCIM ("koubao" or KB), massage+sex ("ganmo" or GM), and nuru massage+sex ("shuimo".

Quality of the girls in these places aren't necessarily worse than the less expensive ones at saunas, but they're definitely higher mileage and probably less educated. Service is about the same as saunas, but the rooms and beds are much smaller and usually not as clean. It's also a bit riskier, because these places are busted by the local police more often (maybe once every 3-6 months). To minimize the risk, avoid visiting these places between the hours of 6 PM and 11 PM, because that's when 99% of raids occur. As long as you avoid this period, you should be safe.

4) WeChat outcall girls: 800 for ST, 1400-1500 for overnight, plus cab fare.

I've negotiated with these but never actually had one come over in SH, so can't comment. They're everywhere; just use People Nearby on WeChat or use Tantan (Chinese Tinder) for a bit and an ad with a naked girl pic and WeChat number will show up after a few swipes. I've had a few outcalls when traveling to other Chinese cities, and I must say the service is significantly inferior to saunas / MPs. There is absolutely no quality control, and they upsell or leave early whenever possible. As others have said, pay the girl after the deed to ensure at least a passable experience.

5) Tantan / Tinder: free. ?

Had some success with both of these apps, but it's hit and miss and very much a numbers game. Usually requires a coffee or lunch date to gauge their interest and intentions. Most Chinese girls are just curious about Tantan and aren't actively looking to hook up. The best sex I've had in SH is from a Tinder hookup though, whom I now pay for regular overnight booty calls.

6) Final note on getting the WeChat of working girls.

I get the WeChat of nearly every working girl whose service I liked, though in my experience it may or may not be worth it. Whatever you do, don't tell anyone (especially the establishment) that you have their WeChat; most places fine the girls between 500-3000 for giving out their WeChat to customers. I've converted working girls into a freebies before, but at the cost of a LOT of drama. I've also gotten working girls to come over to my place for as low as 200 plus cab fare, which is both cheaper and safer than doing the deed at a sauna or MP.

The bottom line is, my advice is to always pay for sex with working girls. They'll view it as a transaction and save you a lot of headache down the road. It also makes sense cost and safety wise.

[BushWhack]

Hi Marty, it's not fixed yet around Feb 26.29.

I'll be in SH Feb 25 - 28, let me know if you meet at the jazz club or for a few beers.

[GregoryB]

Amazing how many still are trapped, but many just believe they are wiser or like Donald Trump beyond all others. Haha.

There have been sooo many WARNINGS and war stories, but often enough you can read are T F F.

It is really highly reommended to send a PM and ask for recommendations. 20 $ best invested!

Gregory.

As I mentioned in my email, Shanghai touts are dangerous. I'll repeat the statement I made below, since you didn't seem to understand it:

"As the forum has repeatedly advised, Shanghai is a remarkably safe city if you use approved services, including escorts, bar girls, saunas and massage parlors. If on the other hand you deal with touts, including "college students" and taxi drivers, you've got a nearly 100% chance of getting ripped off. "

[The Guy]

Do you seriously think it is JUST the Teahouse scam that gives SCAMHAI a black eye? It couldn't have anything to do with having a 9 MM put to your face after being taken to a "massage Bar" by a tout now. Could it? This place is OVER PRICED and too dangerous for even me. I hope Donald J Trump is elected! USA Rules!

As I mentioned in my email, Shanghai touts are dangerous. I'll repeat the statement I made below, since you didn't seem to understand it:

"As the forum has repeatedly advised, Shanghai is a remarkably safe city if you use approved services, including escorts, bar girls, saunas and massage parlors. If on the other hand you deal with touts, including "college students" and taxi drivers, you've got a nearly 100% chance of getting ripped off. "

[Staid Lo]

Can't wait to check her out!

Thanks for the intel!

#18 will return next month, maybe sooner. Will notify interested members via Pm.

[Beijing4987]

#18 will return next month, maybe sooner. Will notify interested members via Pm.