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  1. #8992
    So sorry for your experience. China is normally very safe, but except for mongering.

    Prostitution is strictly forbidden in China, so mafia make use it. They reckon that people dared not call police even if they are blackmailed concerning reputation or punishment.

    Local Chinese are also very cautious about mongering, only go to saunas they are familiar or introduced by friends.

    Be careful in China, you could ask for information here, we are glad to tell you reliable saunas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greatwall75  [View Original Post]
    Just to report a very bad experience in a Sauna / MP in Fuzhou road. This Sauna is located on the first floor (in the corner of a building), have red lights on the door and Red neon "BAR"sign. It is in front of many ICBC ATM (cash machines). I don't know the street number.

    I enter inside and about 10 girls was waiting. Mamasan introduce me to a waiting room and introduce me to the girls. 300 Yuan for massage and HJ. I choose one. Mamasan told me to wait 10 minutes in the waiting room as massage rooms were busy.

    Girls started her massage in the waiting room and when she touch my private parts I asked her to wait to be on the massage room. She insisted but I rejected. She told me she will check if one room was available and leave.

    Then things has gone wrong..

  2. #8991

    Agression in Fuzhou Road Sauna / MP

    Just to report a very bad experience in a Sauna / MP in Fuzhou road. This Sauna is located on the first floor (in the corner of a building), have red lights on the door and Red neon "BAR"sign. It is in front of many ICBC ATM (cash machines). I don't know the street number.

    I enter inside and about 10 girls was waiting. Mamasan introduce me to a waiting room and introduce me to the girls. 300 Yuan for massage and HJ. I choose one. Mamasan told me to wait 10 minutes in the waiting room as massage rooms were busy.

    Girls started her massage in the waiting room and when she touch my private parts I asked her to wait to be on the massage room. She insisted but I rejected. She told me she will check if one room was available and leave.

    Then things has gone wrong.

    2 guys enter in the room, one immediately blocked the door and the other sit down in front of me. He started to said calmly that prostitution was illegal in China, and step by step, pressure increase and he finish by death threatens. I was very unhappy and told him. I tried to go but the guy in the door repel me. After 20 minutes of discussion 3 other guys join the rooms. One of the new guy ask me to pay if I want to leave alive. I rejected. They started to beat me. I was very surprise as I know very well China and it is normally very safe. I never thought they will beat me, and certainly not with such level of violence. 5 Chinese against me, they were not brave but I didn't have chance to win. I then accepted to pay to stop them. We started discussing about price. 25000 Yuan was the first price they offered. I rejected and threaten and assault restart. I finished to pay 15 000 by credit card. And they deliver me.

    I know China quite well and never had or heard about such king of aggression and violence in Sauna or MP. I considered to go to the police station, but I was leaving China the following days, and was just afraid that the process take time and delay my departure, or having problem with the police cause the aggression occurred in a massage parlor.

    Well, I just want to share my bad and expensive experience. Just remember that zero risk doesn't exist. Be safe and take care.

  3. #8990

    Any CIM places in Xujiahui?

    Enjoyed the various reports on Buddha, etc. Just looking something closer to where I'll be staying. 999 is a very nice sauna, but as someone wrote, if you are looking for BJCIM, there are alternatives. There are a number of BBS / pink light places around, but they didn't look too appealing.

    Will post reports / reviews.

  4. #8989
    Quote Originally Posted by Sinofaguo  [View Original Post]
    Hum that isn't true for all places.

    In Hongqiao / Gubei area for instance many MPs are on a 218 or 228 cost for 90 minute oil massage at front desk and the min tip is 300 for HJ with auto-roam (used to be 200) given to the girl..
    Just as I've stated, I was referring to the aforementioned places that I've been to, the MP's that specialize in particular services. I prefer to know what I'm getting and how much its going to cost.

    Those MP's I assume your referring to, I would consider them as glorified BBS'. The chicks are dressed hotter and the atmosphere a bit nicer and cleaner. I've been to 2 of those. Same price range for just the massage as you've stated. Personally, I'm really not a fan of haggling with the girl about how much tip she wants during the session. No way am I going to pay 800 just like she asked for, LMAO. Ended up giving 400 both times for just the FS. The haggling was a bit of a mood killer for me. I prefer to tip voluntarily for services I deem happy with.

    Weather seems to be calm recently.

    Safe mongering, all.

    Mute

  5. #8988
    Quote Originally Posted by Mute333  [View Original Post]
    1000 for only a choice of 4 girls sounds a bit much to me. Out of curiosity, did this sauna have a storefront or was it in a building? And how long was the session? If it was only 70 minutes or less, you probably paid more than you should have.

    If BJ is your thing, there are plenty of places that offer just that for a decent price. Many MP or mini spas (not BBS because I can't stand the sanitary conditions) are pure BJ sessions. They go for around 180 250 per hour depending on the place and CIM service.

    Mute
    I am the one to tell Marauder where the sauna is. The sauna Marauder went is a good place, very good sanitary condition, they have far more than 4 girls, and I think they just did not show him all at the first time. The sauna was in a building, so very safe. The session supposed to be 90 mins, with full service (no anal) and the water bed service is very good. You could cum twice at least.

    I told Marauder several times it was 90 mins, they would call the room when time was up. I think the girl reckoned that he could not speak Chinese and could not complaint to mamasan afterwards so that she dared to ask him to go before time was up. You know some of these girls are very experienced to cheat clients and shorten their time. What we could do at this time is to fuck her until the telephone rings, unlucky Marauder was too thoughtful and shy to do that.

    I like the service saunas offer, licking your body, anal rimming, washing with boobs and butt, and saunas charge more than BJ shop, even though I enjoy sauna far better.

  6. #8987
    Quote Originally Posted by Darislnd  [View Original Post]
    Taz,

    Impressive that you are maintaining detachment. Normally I have no problems but there was one GFE I had in Shanghai that was so out of the world for me that I also struggled with as well though I haven't followed up on it. Regarding my experience at Kang Ding, I went there just once and it was good, the girl quality was good but I felt Ming Hui was slightly better and more choices (almost 2 x). However the quality of service was much better at Kang Ding and location so much more convenient. Your girl didn't happen to be X66? I choose her and she also gave fantastic service although it seems she's left (she said she was leaving after my stay) as she hasn't shown up on availability updates. If you do. Grab her (unless you want big breasts. She's close to negative on the cup scale.).

    I would ask for your girl to check but out of Shanghai for a little while.
    The single biggest reason I haven't returned to kang ding is not wanting to go through the decision process. Do I take her again and risk something more than I'm prepared for, and if she is available, can I even get myself to choose someone else? I've had girls that rocked my world during the session, but when it was over there was no mistaking the situation. I paid for a service, nothing more. I gave her number out to a couple people, but haven't heard anything back yet. Would really like to know their experience with her.

    For sure Ming hui is a nicer place with an amazing selection, but also a hell of a lot more expensive.

    Taz.

  7. #8986

    Second trip to same spa

    With little else to do in Shanghai, I went back to the same massage parlor at 1:30 in the afternoon. I had brought along some Durex condoms, with hopes that it would go better this time.

    When I arrived, I realized that they actually have a hidden door, it was open yesterday, but it is a sliding door on a remote control. Pretty neat.

    This time, instead of 4 girls, there were about 12 filing their way into the fishbow. WOW. I selected a petit, pretty typical looking asian girl with perfect small tits. Very nice by my standards.

    She was far less awkward about the language barrier, and took the initiative. The shower led to a great soapy massage, this was a first for me, and I have to say, pubic hair does make a great exfoliater. She also very, very, very throughly cleaned my backside, I had a good idea where this was going. She used some sort of ointment on my butthole, I'm guessing a disinfectant, which had a very cool sensation.

    I was pretty happy, on to the bed for the cat bath (she put hot water in her mouth, an inhalled to make bubbles. Then the AR. This was the first time for me. I really didn't see what all the fuss was about, I relaxed and enjoyed, but it only lasted about 1 minute. I think she spent 5 or more cleaning my butt. It really wasn't my thing.

    On to the BBBJ. I had asked for 69 via a translated message, but it didn't materialize. The BBBJ was excellent, lots of pressure, movement, slurping. I hand action, and the occasional ball suck. But, she spit me out as I was cumming, and was toweling it down with dry napkins before the orgasm even subsided. Oh well.

    It went a little downhill from there, nothing really bad, After she cleaned both of us up, I got a half hearted back and leg massage, before she started sucking me again, actually I wish she would have waitd a little longer, to let me recover. I should have let her finish me that way, because condoms are my nemesis so it seems. Still, with her body and the new condom brand, I was hopeful.

    She wanted to start with missionary, so I obliged. I quickly changed to reverse cowgirl, I love to see what is going on, she got tired fast, so onto doggy with me standing, at that point she wanted to switch condoms. We then did missionary with me standing. I was starting to sweat, so I tried to change positions again for a break (the AC in there was inadequate) at which point she gestured that she would like to use her hand. The sex itself lasted about 5 minutes.

    I agreed. She oiled it up and went to work, and had me very close several times, but it never worked. She didn't put as much effort into it as the girl yesterday, After the session time was at almost 1 hour, she started pointing at the clock. So we washed up. I thought I had 90 minutes, so I laid naked on the bed while she washed, hoping that we could do some cuddling or flirting or something, but she pointed at the clock and gestured me to get dressed. The phone never rang.

    I'm not disappointed too much, but I guess there have to be better places out there. As one of the member said earlier: if you just want a BBBJ, you don't have to go to a sauna. Still, the soapy and the AR were new to me, and I very much enjoyed the soapy.

    My mongering efforts will conclude for quite a while I imagine, as I am leaving tomorrow. I'm very grateful to Paris07 for getting the ball rolling for me. Stay safe mongers!

  8. #8985

    More details of BJ places

    Thanks for the info. Today is my last day in Shanhgai. I've never been to such BJ places before, may I ask a silly question: Do the women get naked and let you fondel them? Cause I like that too. .

    It was in a tall building, on a second floor.

    I don't actually know how much time I was given, I think I stayed an hour then said thank you and left. I don't speak Chinese.

    Anyway, all of the info you can provide would be apreciated, I am in Puxi, and I don't like to travel too far as I don't know where I am going. .

    Quote Originally Posted by Mute333  [View Original Post]
    1000 for only a choice of 4 girls sounds a bit much to me. Out of curiosity, did this sauna have a storefront or was it in a building? And how long was the session? If it was only 70 minutes or less, you probably paid more than you should have.

    If BJ is your thing, there are plenty of places that offer just that for a decent price. Many MP or mini spas (not BBS because I can't stand the sanitary conditions) are pure BJ sessions. They go for around 180 250 per hour depending on the place and CIM service.

    Mute

  9. #8984
    Quote Originally Posted by Mute333  [View Original Post]
    Tips are not mandatory for these services since these are what the places are charging you for.
    Hum that isn't true for all places.

    In Hongqiao / Gubei area for instance many MPs are on a 218 or 228 cost for 90 minute oil massage at front desk and the min tip is 300 for HJ with auto-roam (used to be 200) given to the girl.

    The difference with most Jing'an MPs is the cost but also the quality of the girls (some very good looking and almost all in their early 20's), and most of all the quality of the massage. Everything is much more customer / experience focused to fit with the Japanese / Koreans requirements as they are many who live in this area (less nowadays since the issues with the islands and the anti Japanese riots.).

  10. #8983

    My thoughts (also because I can't sleep)

    Basically, shanghai is the new Dongguan, sort of speak. Consider it as Dongguan jr. The services still doesn't rank up to what was once DG but quantity is aplenty compared to other major cities. From what I've noticed from the board and from fellow mongers, foreigners do pay more in some cases. Not to say that foreigners are easily duped but if your happy with the service and the price you paid, then that's all that matters. But if money is a factor, my advice would be to befriend a native speaker and hopefully someone who is also a horny. Have them let you tag along and show you some places. Odds are, a Chinese monger will know more places and services than a foreigner would.

    So here's what I've learned from my 4 months here in Shanghai. You have your choices of scenes or venues to choose from:

    BBS. Small to mid sized storefronts with girls sitting out in the open for you to choose from. Basically a quick fix and GTFO type of deal, simple BJ and FJ. Very few of these places have shower rooms. Price: 150 - 230, anything more or add-on's are a rip.

    MP. TY (tui you. Oil rub) massage storefronts that only offer he. There are a couple of these joints that tend to have much hotter chicks because they only do HJ, basically just a massage and a he. Price: 150 - 300 no tips.

    MP. KB (kou bao. CIM) massage storefronts that offers CIM service. Anything less than a BJ will be unacceptable, store rules. Buddha place is the well known one in the forum. Price: 210 - 280 no tips.

    MP. GM (gan mo. FS) massage storefronts that offers quick massage and FS. Basically a shower, massage then onto the dirty deed. One shot, said. Price: 250 - 400 no tips.

    *Note: all MP's are 60 min sessions. They all include the package of titty rubs, cat licks, and variations of anal play to the male. Notice I've stated no tips to the prices. Tips are not mandatory for these services since these are what the places are charging you for. I'm sure many foreigners would be asked for tips for the services stated above but they are not at all mandatory. As a matter of fact, many front desks will ask if you were asked for a tip from the masseuse. If you were, the masseuse would be fined.

    Also of note, the prices I've stated are the prices I've personally paid. There are most likely prices that are higher but I'm a QQ user and the Chinese monger community is huge. Some of these places will have group chat rooms of their own to advertise with discounts.

    A great example is of the recently talked about place near the Hilton. I believe its called royal massage (jing yuan). Its a CIM MP. Walk-ins cost 358, but mention the ad ( might also have to show them the ad) and the price goes down to 268. Again, no tip. BTW, #3 is great. 2 girls there with nice racks, #3 and#8.

    OK, that's it for now. I was going to go into the saunas and spas but I think I've written enough. Now that I've seen what I've wrote, I think I know way too much about this, LOL!

    Mute

  11. #8982

    Whoa

    1000 for only a choice of 4 girls sounds a bit much to me. Out of curiosity, did this sauna have a storefront or was it in a building? And how long was the session? If it was only 70 minutes or less, you probably paid more than you should have.

    If BJ is your thing, there are plenty of places that offer just that for a decent price. Many MP or mini spas (not BBS because I can't stand the sanitary conditions) are pure BJ sessions. They go for around 180 250 per hour depending on the place and CIM service.

    Mute

    Quote Originally Posted by Marauder  [View Original Post]
    I am very new to mongering, I did it once in Thailand in 2003, then never again until last night in Wuhan. Thanks to Paris07 for holding my hand through the process via wechat.

    Anyway, he suggested a few Saunas, and I headed out to one not too far from my hotel (45 RMB taxi ride, whatever than translates to). He had already called the mamasan and made the arrangement, 1000 for anyone I like.

    At this establishment, you leave your shoes in the living room and borrow a pair of flip flops. You are led to a stand up fishbowl that holds 4 girls. They had a nice, tall skinny one. Since in America, I have no success with skinny girls, I tend to gravitate toward them, and she was exactly what I was looking for.

    The accommodations were not as fancy as what I saw in Wuhan, but, they were clean and good enough. I'm a visual person, and this place was wall to wall mirrors. Thumbs up.

    When she joined me, we got naked and we hit the shower, I noticed a massage table in the shower room, great idea!

    She told me to lie on my stomach, and she did an oil massage with her tits and ass, but I couldn't see. Still enjoyable...

  12. #8981

    Sauna Experience from a Newbie

    I am very new to mongering, I did it once in Thailand in 2003, then never again until last night in Wuhan. Thanks to Paris07 for holding my hand through the process via wechat.

    Anyway, he suggested a few Saunas, and I headed out to one not too far from my hotel (45 RMB taxi ride, whatever than translates to). He had already called the mamasan and made the arrangement, 1000 for anyone I like.

    At this establishment, you leave your shoes in the living room and borrow a pair of flip flops. You are led to a stand up fishbowl that holds 4 girls. They had a nice, tall skinny one. Since in America, I have no success with skinny girls, I tend to gravitate toward them, and she was exactly what I was looking for.

    The accommodations were not as fancy as what I saw in Wuhan, but, they were clean and good enough. I'm a visual person, and this place was wall to wall mirrors. Thumbs up.

    When she joined me, we got naked and we hit the shower, I noticed a massage table in the shower room, great idea!

    She told me to lie on my stomach, and she did an oil massage with her tits and ass, but I couldn't see. Still enjoyable.

    I had asked for 69 through my translator friend, but I couldn't communicate that to her, so I had a great BBBJ CIM.

    She doesn't speak english and I don't speak chinese, so we lied there and goofed around, she noticed that my tits are larger than hers, and we had a good giggle.

    After a few minutes, BBBJ to erection, then we tried sex. She seemed to experience quite a bit of discomfort. We tried missionary, her on top, squat style, corkscrew, doggy, and I suggested an oily handjob. She tried her best for about 10 full minutes, but no avail. She isn't that strong, and honestly, I'm not used to condoms, and they really ruin it for me.

    I suggested that we take pictures, but she said no. Paris talked to her on the phone before we got to work, and she indicated that she wasn't down with that, even for a tip. I was satisfied, so I suggested that we have a shower and end it a little early.

    I enjoyed it, but the condom thing kinda decreases the enjoyment. I would never go bareback with a working girl, I'm just starting to think that a BJ is all I need. Another friendly monger recommend a few BJ places, I might try tomorrow, or I might go back to sauna, we will see.

    In either case, I scratched the itch a little harder tonight.
    Last edited by Marauder; 06-22-15 at 18:13. Reason: typo and added some detail about room

  13. #8980
    Quote Originally Posted by Tazman099  [View Original Post]
    I recently posted a very short review on kang ding indicating I could find no fault (other than the location for me). There's more to the story, and I've finally decided how to deal with it. The reality is this was the most amazing GFE I've received in China (not just saunas, but LT pick ups as well). This was in no way a sauna service, we had a very simple shower, then straight to the bed (although there's a large wet bed in the shower area). I was initially disappointed, but went along. I laid down on my belly, expecting the usual fire / ice. But that didn't happen either. What did happen was a very short touching / kissing session on my back, then a quick flip. From this point on, everything felt more like meeting a stranger in a hotel room and having amazing sex, than a sauna experience. This girl simply fcked me, and did not want to stop. Although I don't believe I'm well hung, I've heard OMG, more times than I count in Asia. This girl loved the fact I have more going on down there than the typical Asian man.

    There was one point during our session as we were moving to doggy, she was upright on her knees facing the wall mirror with me behind her working my way down her (sweaty) back with my mouth and my hands working her front side to my satisfaction. That was followed by DATY and fingering before insertion.

    As I've mentioned in previous posts, I take a medication that sometimes causes me to require manual intervention to achieve completion. At one point I removed the cover to do just that, and she would have nothing to do with that. We quickly put a new cover on and went back at it. In the end, HJ was required. We were simply out of time...
    Taz,

    Impressive that you are maintaining detachment. Normally I have no problems but there was one GFE I had in Shanghai that was so out of the world for me that I also struggled with as well though I haven't followed up on it. Regarding my experience at Kang Ding, I went there just once and it was good, the girl quality was good but I felt Ming Hui was slightly better and more choices (almost 2 x). However the quality of service was much better at Kang Ding and location so much more convenient. Your girl didn't happen to be X66? I choose her and she also gave fantastic service although it seems she's left (she said she was leaving after my stay) as she hasn't shown up on availability updates. If you do. Grab her (unless you want big breasts. She's close to negative on the cup scale.).

    I would ask for your girl to check but out of Shanghai for a little while.

  14. #8979
    Quote Originally Posted by Johnia32  [View Original Post]
    Its behind the Hilton on the small alley past JingBin Massage and another hotel / restaurant. If you see "Animate Massage" you girl went too far.

    "Royal Massage" is on a faded sign above the establishment. I don't read Mandarin, so do not know what the lighted sign says.

    Had a session last night and tonight.

    Session last night was OK, but the girl was a little heavier than I like. Big breasts, though. Still accomplished the deed (French).

    Tonight's session was fantastic. Petite gal. Thin, hard nipples. Made sure that I completely satisfied (I was).

    I always stop here when I am in Shanghai.
    CIM? I think I had that one.

  15. #8978

    Royal massage

    Its behind the Hilton on the small alley past JingBin Massage and another hotel / restaurant. If you see "Animate Massage" you girl went too far.

    "Royal Massage" is on a faded sign above the establishment. I don't read Mandarin, so do not know what the lighted sign says.

    Had a session last night and tonight.

    Session last night was OK, but the girl was a little heavier than I like. Big breasts, though. Still accomplished the deed (French).

    Tonight's session was fantastic. Petite gal. Thin, hard nipples. Made sure that I completely satisfied (I was).

    I always stop here when I am in Shanghai.

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