East China - Shanghai

[Koenigg]

Do you when Fino massage opens? I'd like to get in a session during my short layover in Shanghai, but I would only be in the city between 11am and 2pm.

Following the post of BushWack few weeks ago, I decided to visit Fino Massage last night (it is on Dagu road).

Unfortunately, my experience was not as good as the one he described.

I arrived around 11. 45pm. And stared at the menu for quite a long time. As the next move would have been for the lady to show me a 2nd menu. Well that never happened.

I also asked if it was all they had, and she said yes; and asked what I was looking for.

She advised me the oil massage with HE which was very "naughty naughty". Well I guess this is exactly what I was looking for.

Went to the room, the place is not the cleanest in the world, there is a strange smell, probably coming from the wet carpet around the small shower in the room.

First bad surprise: they came to ask me to put a disposable short.

Then came the masseuse, she was OK, a 7 or a 8, and did not speak a single word of English, but that's OK, was not here to talk anyway.

Then starts with the massage. To be very clear, the massage was one of the best I have ever had. It really was the right balance between arousing and pressured; on that one, I have nothing to complain about.

Now, based on the BushWack experience, I was expecting the masseuse to drop her clothes any time. Well, that part never happened. I must admit it makes the all experience funny as you are face down with now view on what is happening, so each time she goes away from you (in fact to take some more oil) , you are hoping she will come back naked. And then, a quick hand touch to realize she still has her pants.

To cut things shorts, it ended up with a HJ, which was OK as she made it last pretty long, but that's it, no touching, nothing was allowed or even possible as she sat opposite to me.

At the exit, they tried to sell me the membership card, which I simply refuse.

All in all:

- Girl:7. 5.

- Massage: 9.

- HJ: 8.

- BJ: 0. Not available.

- GFE: 0. Not available.

- Touching in any kind: 0. Not available

[Levitian]

A question for the general forum: On my last trip I had a problem with one of the KTV girls (told about in one of my other posts). Now, the mamasan in the hotel has always treated me fairly and well (my being good friends with the hotel owner probably helps in this regard). However, this was my last night and I left a bit upset and mamasan may have been also. I want to smooth things over and continue to get the good treatment I have always had, discounts, free drinks, great service, etc. To that end I have purchased a small gift for the mamasan to give to her on my next visit as a small apology if I caused her any trouble on my last visit. Thoughts on doing this? Will it help or hinder, make me look weak or stupid, etc? Anybody have in experience in doing something like this?

Are you referring to the Weihai story?

Well, you were right, and you do not have to apologize or else. On the other side. If you will be a regular guest also in the future, then why not?"Small gifts preserve friendship", also in China.

Lev

[MrClen]

If you stay in the general common area of the KTV not much will happen. Bu tif you take a room (better with friends) and select some girls you might end up with quite some fun. Girls might get fully naked at some point (for a short while, not for the whole time) and they will play with you too.

In Kuala Lumpur me and a friend ended up in a side tiny room with a couple of coaches where we could have the girls fully servicing us. Then we came back in the private rooms where we left our friends.

In Vietnam nothing will happen in the private room (clear glass in the door and guys checking often what is going on)

This should probably be in the general China forum, but since it started here I'll go ahead. Where I go in China, smaller city, you always get a room (private) and I don't think there are any smaller side rooms, at least not in the general KTV area or that I am aware of. The hotel or KTV usually has a room in the hotel where you can go ST, but since I always go LT I haven't been to it. Next time I go I am going to ask the mamasan to show me the ST room. In this, as in all mongering situations, the more information you have the better off you will be and the more fun you can have. That's why, after going to China several times per year for the last few years, I now look forward to the trips and some good fun. This forum has been a huge help in that regard and I've now experienced a few things I would had never considered (nothing crazy or real kinky). A joke on me-when I went to China the first couple times I wondered why there were so many TV studios around! K-TV! I had no idea what they were, and after I found out, I can't stay away.

A question for the general forum: On my last trip I had a problem with one of the KTV girls (told about in one of my other posts). Now, the mamasan in the hotel has always treated me fairly and well (my being good friends with the hotel owner probably helps in this regard). However, this was my last night and I left a bit upset and mamasan may have been also. I want to smooth things over and continue to get the good treatment I have always had, discounts, free drinks, great service, etc. To that end I have purchased a small gift for the mamasan to give to her on my next visit as a small apology if I caused her any trouble on my last visit. Thoughts on doing this? Will it help or hinder, make me look weak or stupid, etc? Anybody have in experience in doing something like this?

[MeHappy]

Next subject: WeChat.

Wow, what an amazing thing!

I followed instructions read here and sent out greetings to 20 or so girls near me and I got replies and connections from more than half! I've added a picture of myself and my hotel room and some short text.

After a days chatting I probably have 2 or 3 that are showing a more serious interest and seem willing to meet irl. It takes quite a bit of effort with WeChat but I have a lot of fun in the process.

Oh, I also got like 10 WeChat proposals from girls wearing next to nothing. They contacted me and seem to be escort services.

Now the only thing left to explore here is Tongren Lu, may check it out tomorrow night.

[MeHappy]

And all of a sudden she changed, relaxed.

She put on the condom with her mouth with amazing skill, it was beautiful to watch. She propped up my (big) head a bit with a pillow so I'd be comfortable and get a perfect view of what she was doing. Wow, she had some skills. .

I then want to, perhaps not DATY but at least get near and feel and she tightens up. She says finger ok but no mouth. Ok I say.

Then a variety of positions and after a while both we both lie down sweating. Now she is far from mechanical, it's practically a GFE experience she is doing. She takes out her phone and we talk about tons of things. Her name (s) , hometown, spa number, how long she's worked, where I am from, etc etc. All the time cuddling. She uses google translate and she really makes an effort. I ask her is she is on WeChat and she looks at me and asks if I know what it is. I say of course I know. (I've read the f forum, thank you). We connect.

I asked about the no DATY and she replies she is very careful and that she was sick in the winter and could not work. She points to her parts and says no good no job. But you do BBBJ, I ask, what about sick from that? She says yes, that she has to but she does not like it. Kind of interesting conversation development.

After a while the phone rings, it's time to shower again. She washes me up and down. I don't think I've ever been so scrubbed.

Then it's clothing time. She tells me I can get food and drink for free if I stay. Once we are dressed she picks up the phone and calls that we are done. She takes my hand, leads me down another corridor and shows me out. Once out from behind a door I am directed down a corridor (this place has so many corridors) and the guy says "go home". I say no, I want food and drink. He looks at me for a second or two and says ok and points in the other direction.

After yet another corridor I find myself in a lounge room with huge lounge chairs and a tv. There are perhaps 12 chairs in the room and I am showed to one. 8 of the chairs are occupied with Chinese men of which 3 have girls in their laps, cleaning ears, massaging etc. I sit down and ask for a coca cola, they say something more, I try to ask for food but it's obvious that noone here wanted to speak english.

I ask for ear clean by using a combination of sign and spoken language, it looks kind of interesting and I've never tried it before, well at least not in this way.

After a minute a girl, slightly older but in no way unattractive, dressed in a tight dress comes to me. She lies down next to me and start the cleaning. It's sweet. Once she is done she asks if I want shoulder massage. I say yes. Wow, she speaks a bit of english. She says ear clean and shoulder massage is 198, only ear cleaning is 118.

She hitches up her dress and sits down on me in a very sexy way. Then she starts giving a really good backrub. All the time with a sexy touch, but really good.

Ear cleaning and shoulder massage probably took an hour. I tried to ask what else was on the menu, there is a manu card there, but she could not translate. I tried asking a waiter but no help. I decided it was time to leave.

Back at the cashiers I paid my 980+198, went downstairs and took a taxi back to the Bund. Taxi cost 50 there. 45 back.

My rating of Hong Song, value: excellent. Premises are nice and I feel satisfied with the service.

Girl: #33, 22 yrs old, Petrel (western name, I have her Chinese too, I even have her birthday and phone number and WeChat.) , from Hainan. Looks (by Chinese standard, ie not comparable to western) , face 8, body 8, attitude 5 before CBJ. 9 after, would repeat: yes.

[MeHappy]

I've split up the report in several smaller parts as I am writing on the iPhone and never know when I'm disconnected from the wifi.

Story continues. The guys at the fish bowl usher me to a corridor and then the girl comes and takes my hand. She seems pretty happy, a good sign.

I am still dressed in my normal clothes, so this is not like the sauna experience I've had before where one first changes attire. I have no idea where I'm being led but it's more corridors and doors. Finally we end up in a room. It's a nice looking room. It's got a smallish double bed, but I don't think it's meant for sleeping, and a similar sized wet room with a glass divider.

#33 points to a locker and says take off clothes, she locks the door and calls the command center reporting my number that is written on the plastic pouch I was given upon entry to the spa.

She gets undressed. A very cute girl, not a 10 in looks face or body but way more than good enough and I am very happy to have someone that knows a little English.

She points points and says "shower". Ok I reply. She showers me and then prepares the bed. She is asking me if temperature ok. She asks if I want the stool first but I say no as that is not my thing. Then she asks me to lie down. She then washes me thoroughly, soap and all. Then she focuses on my behind and once I feel her finger on the way in I say no, not my thing.

Then comes the slide. It's nice but somewhat mechanical. Then turn around.

Time for frontal full body wash, she washes and washes and washes. The smaller head gets a major wash too. Then it's slide time again. Again more mechanical than genuine feeling, but don't get me wrong it's very nice. .

Then stand up, more wash, more shower, gives me towel and starts to wash herself. I dry myself watching her. I think to myself that someone should tell her that much soap in the ladies area is not good. .

She then points me to the bed. I lie face down and now starts the cat bath, the hot and cold and a variety of more funny than sexy things. It's all very mechanical. I turn around and now it is a little more sexy. After some more frontal cat bath she is about to do a BBBJ when I say "do you have a condom?"

She looks up at me, takes my hand, shakes it and says thank you!

[BionicMan]

, I usually get the VIP room that has frosted glass and the couch and sitting area is not visible from the door-I've always wondered-is this coincidence or on purpose, and does it indicate what can happen in the room? I will try asking the mamasan if the games can be played and to start them. My not speaking the language does not help, so I have to rely on one of my Chinese friends starting the action.

If you stay in the general common area of the KTV not much will happen. Bu tif you take a room (better with friends) and select some girls you might end up with quite some fun. Girls might get fully naked at some point (for a short while, not for the whole time) and they will play with you too.

In Kuala Lumpur me and a friend ended up in a side tiny room with a couple of coaches where we could have the girls fully servicing us. Then we came back in the private rooms where we left our friends.

In Vietnam nothing will happen in the private room (clear glass in the door and guys checking often what is going on)

[MeHappy]

Thank you and I am in SH now. And my first stop was to test Hong Song! .

Thanks to excellent directions posted previously it was easy to find the place.

Inside, it is a maze of corridors and rooms and tons of staff. Somewhat confusing but I just followed where they pointed.

First I was led to a kind of waiting room and was asked "drink", I replied coca cola. Then they said "sit". Not knowing what was about to happen I took my shoes off and sat down in a huge lounge chair, there were 5 or 6 of them in the room in front of a tv showing the news or something local that looked like the news. .

I am alone in this room and they've closed the door.

After about 5 minutes a guy comes in and says "come". I get up, put on my shoes and follow the guy. Suddenly I am in front of the fish tank.

Wow, amazing selection!

At least 50 girls standing in their underwear packed into a room with a glass divider. So strange, so abstract, so. Amazing. .

I start looking around, searching for a smile. One or two smiles I catch right away but they are not really my type. I ask for help from the staff,"which one speak english". They talk a little among each other and then say "number 33 english ok". I say ok.

She walks out and the girls in the tank sigh and sit down! I could hear some sigh really loud.

[MrClen]

- mehappy – gl and have fun on your trip – yeah basically all of the major saunas (except a couple further out in pudong, or the ones in gubei (that's a whole nother playland out there) are between 10-20 minute cab ride from the bund, so you have plenty of options. just forum search. also, shanghaiguide's website has a good map on there of the general sauna locations – he's got a great resource there. make sure you grab a few of the free shanghai tourist maps when you get off the plane – usually there are free map kiosks at the baggage claim areas – they are actually excellent maps – once you get situated, just locate yourself on the map (or ask concierge to circle for you) – if you aren't embarrassed to ask, you can write down a list of addresses from the forum and ask the concierge guy to dot them on the map for you – get you started real quick.

- mrclen – thanks! there are a bunch of k's where the girls get topless or full nude at various times in the night.) just directly ask the mamasan / papasan of the place you go to if they have 'games' or if the girls take off their clothes for dancing. the 'games' are generally strip games or where the girl and her guy do some kind of performance for the room like the girl takes off her top and they have to act out 5 different sexual positions. they have a bunch of game names written on pieces of paper and the guys pick out from the cup round robin. a guy is blindfolded, has to sit in the front of the room and all the girls take their tops off and he has to pick out his girls by feeling all their boobs and deciding – wrong choice drinks. washing machine game – guy takes off his shirt and all the girls take theirs off and they circle around him and grind around him in a circle with their boobs. stuff like that. sounds strange writing it, but they are fun and funny when everyone's drunk and having a good time. sorry i don't have a paid account here so can't pm you, but i could pass you a couple venue places somehow. there's many we haven't tried out yet all over town, the mamasans and girls do move around to different places after time and so they take their contact with them when they go somewhere new, so let me know if there is a particular area you are looking for.

- frito – yeah quality was good overall =) i'll have to take a peek again at the girls, haven't taken a look for a while – and see if they still don't budge on the quotes for me = (

- bab13 – strange, i haven't been to a ktv here yet where there were not at least some girls available for take-away. even if the mamasans don't explicitly say there are girls available, things can always be negotiated with the girl directly (some girls just won't do it so it depends on your luck of the pick if the shop doesn't openly encourage it by bringing you lineups of girls who for sure are take-aways if you ask). the most 'up-standing' ktv i've been taken to was a japanese ktv (chinese girls catering to japanese clientele) and some girls were still available if you negotiated directly. not sure how to help here.

- howdy – basically everywhere whenever your refresh your location on wechat. after you 'look around' and browse through a hundred or so profiles, you should have a good idea of which girls are available / on the prowl. the older girls / ladies who still try to post 'cute' pouty pics of themselves are probably divorced or 'leftover' women. throw out your greetings. the ones that accept are probably searching for something (probably not us mongers) or someone. but it's a dead giveaway that they are willing to accept random greetings. your 'accept' hit rate on a moderately attractive 30-40 year old woman who's profile screams that she is single / divorced (no pics of kids, no hubby pics, pics of her trying to look attractive) is going to be much much much higher than some hot 20 something chick who probably gets 20 wechat greetings an hour wherever she goes. sure even the older gals probably still want to find someone special, but if they're lonely and down to play, there you go – they know their profiles are public and they know random guys are viewing them all the time.

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how do you get the ampersand symbol to work in this forum. turns all mine to "at"?

thanks again for the information! much more comprehensive than usual on the forum. i never have spent any time in shanghai so really was looking for clues as to how to find out about the games they will play in any ktv and what goes and how to tell. i was in three (count them. 3) high end ktv's in cp and all that was played was the stupid dice games. the game itself was ok, but there was no point other than taking sip of a weak drink-boooring! yes, i took girls out from all three, so the evening wasn't a total waste. my guess is that the dj starts the games? in the ktv in the hotel i usually go to, there is no dj so mostly it's drinking, singing and dancing. although, as i am a regular customer and a friend of the hotel owner, i usually get the vip room that has frosted glass and the couch and sitting area is not visible from the door-i've always wondered-is this coincidence or on purpose, and does it indicate what can happen in the room? i will try asking the mamasan if the games can be played and to start them. my not speaking the language does not help, so i have to rely on one of my chinese friends starting the action. if i ever get to shanghai, i will find a way to get some advice from you as to where to go. since you don't have an account, i wonder if i can put another email address in here? thanks again!

[MightyWind2]

- mehappy – gl and have fun on your trip – yeah basically all of the major saunas (except a couple further out in pudong, or the ones in gubei (that's a whole nother playland out there) are between 10-20 minute cab ride from the bund, so you have plenty of options. just forum search. also, shanghaiguide's website has a good map on there of the general sauna locations – he's got a great resource there. make sure you grab a few of the free shanghai tourist maps when you get off the plane – usually there are free map kiosks at the baggage claim areas – they are actually excellent maps – once you get situated, just locate yourself on the map (or ask concierge to circle for you) – if you aren't embarrassed to ask, you can write down a list of addresses from the forum and ask the concierge guy to dot them on the map for you – get you started real quick.

- mrclen – thanks! there are a bunch of k's where the girls get topless or full nude at various times in the night.) just directly ask the mamasan / papasan of the place you go to if they have 'games' or if the girls take off their clothes for dancing. the 'games' are generally strip games or where the girl and her guy do some kind of performance for the room like the girl takes off her top and they have to act out 5 different sexual positions. they have a bunch of game names written on pieces of paper and the guys pick out from the cup round robin. a guy is blindfolded, has to sit in the front of the room and all the girls take their tops off and he has to pick out his girls by feeling all their boobs and deciding – wrong choice drinks. washing machine game – guy takes off his shirt and all the girls take theirs off and they circle around him and grind around him in a circle with their boobs. stuff like that. sounds strange writing it, but they are fun and funny when everyone's drunk and having a good time. sorry i don't have a paid account here so can't pm you, but i could pass you a couple venue places somehow. there's many we haven't tried out yet all over town, the mamasans and girls do move around to different places after time and so they take their contact with them when they go somewhere new, so let me know if there is a particular area you are looking for.

- frito – yeah quality was good overall =) i'll have to take a peek again at the girls, haven't taken a look for a while – and see if they still don't budge on the quotes for me = (

- bab13 – strange, i haven't been to a ktv here yet where there were not at least some girls available for take-away. even if the mamasans don't explicitly say there are girls available, things can always be negotiated with the girl directly (some girls just won't do it so it depends on your luck of the pick if the shop doesn't openly encourage it by bringing you lineups of girls who for sure are take-aways if you ask). the most 'up-standing' ktv i've been taken to was a japanese ktv (chinese girls catering to japanese clientele) and some girls were still available if you negotiated directly. not sure how to help here.

- howdy – basically everywhere whenever your refresh your location on wechat. after you 'look around' and browse through a hundred or so profiles, you should have a good idea of which girls are available / on the prowl. the older girls / ladies who still try to post 'cute' pouty pics of themselves are probably divorced or 'leftover' women. throw out your greetings. the ones that accept are probably searching for something (probably not us mongers) or someone. but it's a dead giveaway that they are willing to accept random greetings. your 'accept' hit rate on a moderately attractive 30-40 year old woman who's profile screams that she is single / divorced (no pics of kids, no hubby pics, pics of her trying to look attractive) is going to be much much much higher than some hot 20 something chick who probably gets 20 wechat greetings an hour wherever she goes. sure even the older gals probably still want to find someone special, but if they're lonely and down to play, there you go – they know their profiles are public and they know random guys are viewing them all the time.

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how do you get the ampersand symbol to work in this forum. turns all mine to "at"?

[Howdy1234]

Thanks for good information.

But where do you find the cougars? . Mind sharing? Too bad you don't have PM feature.

I usually receive an 'accept' 1 out of every 8 or 10 girls I send greetings to. Cute girls do get WeChat greeting bombs, so probably ignore most greetings. It helps to have a profile and background pic on there and some 'moments' posts so you seem like a regular Joe (not that you aren't). From there you can chat and see where it leads depending on how charming you are. I've hooked up with and boned one cougar so far and have gotten coffee dates with a couple cute girls (though no fun with them yet) – would probably have to work the wine & dine road, and they are probably hoping for a legit BF. I know other guys / my friends have had better luck hunting than me, probably as I'm a lazy fuck when it comes to pursuing regular girls in this city.

[Bab13]

Hey buddies,

Any direction on the KTV name and location which are good for take out. I tried to ask some KTV but they always deny saying girls are not for take out here.

This is the most comprehensive report on the various mongering possibilities in China I have seen. This should be required reading for all newbies to China!

I personally don't do much on the BBS or Sauna scene, but the information on the KTV's is spot on. I may disagree on some of the pricing (Shanghai must be higher than I am used to) , but the general information is absolutely correct. A couple small observations-you can go to a KTV alone, but I don't really recommend it unless you are a regular customer. I do go to one alone often, as where I go in China there are not many opportunities to take friends but I do so whenever possible. That said, KTV's are more fun with more people, but if you just want to relax, have a few drinks with a sexy girl, maybe even bring your own music, and then head off to your room (with the girl) to finish off the night, it's not a bad way to spend the evening. Yes, it's going to cost you a bit more because you are not splitting the room and drinks with others, but sometimes it is worth it.

Another question-I have gone to several KTV's, but have yet to find one where the girls will get naked or even partially naked. Do you have any pointers as to how to pick or find the one that you can enjoy this part? Anything to ask or other clues that might help?

Oh, BTW, I'm going to try to print out your report and keep it in my fum file!

Thanks Again!

[Fritobugger]

Some of the best looking BBS girls in town are on Dujuan Lu and on Yinghua Lu.

There are also some places over on Jintai Lu which is close to the Yinshan Lu he mentioned. The girls on Jintai are nowhere near as hot as Dujuan or Yinghua.

This is the most comprehensive report on the various mongering possibilities in China I have seen. This should be required reading for all newbies to China!

I personally don't do much on the BBS or Sauna scene, but the information on the KTV's is spot on. I may disagree on some of the pricing (Shanghai must be higher than I am used to) , but the general information is absolutely correct. A couple small observations-you can go to a KTV alone, but I don't really recommend it unless you are a regular customer. I do go to one alone often, as where I go in China there are not many opportunities to take friends but I do so whenever possible. That said, KTV's are more fun with more people, but if you just want to relax, have a few drinks with a sexy girl, maybe even bring your own music, and then head off to your room (with the girl) to finish off the night, it's not a bad way to spend the evening. Yes, it's going to cost you a bit more because you are not splitting the room and drinks with others, but sometimes it is worth it.

Another question-I have gone to several KTV's, but have yet to find one where the girls will get naked or even partially naked. Do you have any pointers as to how to pick or find the one that you can enjoy this part? Anything to ask or other clues that might help?

Oh, BTW, I'm going to try to print out your report and keep it in my fum file!

Thanks Again!

[Masslin]

Hi my friends,

I'll be next month in Shanghai ZTE Hotel. Please do you know if the hotel is girl friendly? Any advice about spa or KTV around this hotel?

Please PM me for any advice.

Thanks,

Dany

ZTE Hotel is four star standard hotel, didn't know it's girl-friend or not.

Bodi Hotel Sauna is about 7. 5km to your hotel.

[MrClen]

Hi fellas,

Want to share my personal mongering info and experiences in Shanghai with the community. I've lurked on this and the other semi-defunct site for a while, so it's time to give some info back again...

This is the most comprehensive report on the various mongering possibilities in China I have seen. This should be required reading for all newbies to China!

I personally don't do much on the BBS or Sauna scene, but the information on the KTV's is spot on. I may disagree on some of the pricing (Shanghai must be higher than I am used to) , but the general information is absolutely correct. A couple small observations-you can go to a KTV alone, but I don't really recommend it unless you are a regular customer. I do go to one alone often, as where I go in China there are not many opportunities to take friends but I do so whenever possible. That said, KTV's are more fun with more people, but if you just want to relax, have a few drinks with a sexy girl, maybe even bring your own music, and then head off to your room (with the girl) to finish off the night, it's not a bad way to spend the evening. Yes, it's going to cost you a bit more because you are not splitting the room and drinks with others, but sometimes it is worth it.

Another question-I have gone to several KTV's, but have yet to find one where the girls will get naked or even partially naked. Do you have any pointers as to how to pick or find the one that you can enjoy this part? Anything to ask or other clues that might help?

Oh, BTW, I'm going to try to print out your report and keep it in my fum file!

Thanks Again!