East China - Shanghai

[Sinofaguo]

At Midwestern: To be blunt; there's no *financial* arrangement between Kittie and me (Read: I get zero RMB from her). So *if* she raised prices, it's not because of NLO's involvement. It would be similar as being upset she raised her prices as she added her girls on Allshanghaiescorts or massagerepublic.

Reminds me of when SNG started adding girls on their site which had been reported on other boards including this one and the singaporean one which used to be active back then. Girls like Jolin prices went from 600/700 to 1000 then 1200 RMB. Same for Hujin.

Yet Steven denied taking money from the girls, he said there was just a slight contribution when they were taking the hotline option.

Girls did confirm that there used to be a 20% fee which was later raised to 30% commission to steven's request.

I don't blame him so much for making money on the back of these girls just for copy pasting and reshaping our reports here and on other boards to make content for his website.

But I was more irritated by his BS and lies about it and about them being independant when he just became another agency.

That and faking the reviews / removing the parts which were not helping his biz as it has been reported here and ended up being admited by him after a while.

That being said I never wished him to finish like he did.

[Midwestern]

At Nightlife17, I am not sure why you posted this in the Shanghai thread. My minor issue with you is regarding your web presence in Beijing. I do not mind you providing a new option in Beijing. In fact, I would welcome it. But you are not providing a new option in Beijing. Instead, you are simply meddling with an existing, already well-established, option in Beijing. Recently, someone commented on your site that Xiaoli was only priced at 700 and asked why. Here is your reply: "I haven't tried Xiaoli myself; my understanding from Kitty is that her rate is lower because she's new to the game. " This is a flat-out lie. It is either Kitty lying to you, or you are lying. 700 is the typical rate. (In fact, it was 600 a year ago.) 1000 is the model rate. I suspect it is you that is lying, as you have a motive: You want to justify why your rates in Shanghai are more than double Xiaoli's rates.

Anyway, I do not want to waste forum space further having this spat with you. I am actually rooting for you and for your business in Shanghai. Unfortunately, some of your best girls have left though. Not sure why.

By the way, here is a bonus. I reported on Xiaoli previously in the Beijing thread. Here it is again in a nutshell. She is not as pretty as in her pictures. But then again, most are not. And she is a bit of a starfish. But she is not a rusher. She may even be up for BBFS, because she did not even bring a cover with her. Luckily, I had one on me. Finally, she is flat chested, in case you like that sort of thing, and I know that some guys do.

At Midwestern: To be blunt; there's no *financial* arrangement between Kittie and me (Read: I get zero RMB from her). So *if* she raised prices, it's not because of NLO's involvement. It would be similar as being upset she raised her prices as she added her girls on Allshanghaiescorts or massagerepublic.

However you can always just ask her herself about it. As far as I know, for the girls I've seen in the past, the prices are unchanged. I do know, she has more girls in her stable than the ones listed on the site, so if you are looking for 700 RMB ones, you can just ask her. And if she did raise prices; well, she is free to do so. I have no say over it.

Kittie has been a proven and reliable service and it is a minor effort to help her out; her business as well has had an impact due to the bad weather the past year.

[NightLife17]

At Midwestern: To be blunt; there's no *financial* arrangement between Kittie and me (Read: I get zero RMB from her). So *if* she raised prices, it's not because of NLO's involvement. It would be similar as being upset she raised her prices as she added her girls on Allshanghaiescorts or massagerepublic.

However you can always just ask her herself about it. As far as I know, for the girls I've seen in the past, the prices are unchanged. I do know, she has more girls in her stable than the ones listed on the site, so if you are looking for 700 RMB ones, you can just ask her. And if she did raise prices; well, she is free to do so. I have no say over it.

Kittie has been a proven and reliable service and it is a minor effort to help her out; her business as well has had an impact due to the bad weather the past year.

[Midwestern]

Seems lots of places are open again. Here's one to add to the list:

MP just outside Jiashan station (line 12) exit 5, hotel entrance, 3rd floor (elevator or stairs). Rate is still 268 (same as before) and the showers are still in the rooms. Tried out a nice looking small Sichuan girl (nr 77) - I'd give her an 8 for looks as well as body. The he is included, 100 tip for top off, 200 fully naked. I didn't ask for FS as it wasn't available before and wasn't in the mood.

Thanks for this intel. I went to there recently. My report is the the 2nd paragraph below, but first, a rant.

A few days ago, I decided that I wanted a good legit massage. So, I went to a Tianmai MP. It is a chain that has suddenly sprung up everywhere. Anyway, there is a SPA list and a Massage list. As I was eyeing the massage list, the manager gives me a coy look and tells me to go for a Spa. So, I went for the cheapest one: 70-minutes, 498 RMB. The room is small but nice, and it has a shower. After I shower and put on the blue paper shorts, in walks in a tall stunner wearing a tight t-shirt. I am dumbfounded. Anyway, after the flip, she is massaging my chest and pinching my nipples. And she asks me to upgrade to the 90-minute, 1098 RMB massage. I asked what was the difference, and she pointed to my shorts. So, I said okay. She then sat between my legs, and I closed my eyes, expecting an amazing experience. But all that she did was massage my groin area for 15 minutes and that was it! She didn't even touch the shaft or the balls. What a huge ripoff.

Anyway, a couple of days later, feeling poor, I decided that I wanted to get try a discount option, so I went to this place at Jiashan station. Man, talk about the epitome of a quick jack shack. Crappy massage with no oil for 15 minutes, and then flip, and then she got some oil and she jacked me off quickly. It lasted about a minute. I did pay the 200 tip for her to take her clothes off. She had huge natural pendulous see cups. Quite a bonus given that she was pretty tall (165 cm) and skinny. Anyway, this is a great place if you want a cheap and quick HJ. Overall, a good find. But I am not sure that I will return.

[TheBandit888]

Lots have gone. I'll share when I have something good. Cheers.

Called into the house of Jimmy and there was lots of choice in evening dresses and bikinis. Get in the lift last. You'll be first out and you'll do well. I didn't, scooped a tidy 7 (an 8 to some) who was about 24, no kids, lots of excessive (boxing!) - she was curious, it was good, 2 scoops in the 70 minutes. You know Mr Jimmy on here?

[TravelPlay]

Hi,

Arriving in shanghai the 2. January, and would love some advice. Would prefer agency / independent to come to my hotel for short time. What is the best way to go about doing this? What are the risks / pitfalls in general and after the crackdown. Is there any web pages that are recommended and some that should never be used? If anyone have any advice I'm all ears.

Hi Lucasniel1,

That's up to you if you prefer an agency or independent. You can find some websites in the forum, It is also worth taking a look at the ads section of this forum. All I can recommend you is to do your research before booking because many ads are bait and switch and will never get a girl similar to the pictures posted. There are some reputable agencies and independents which are reviewed online it might be a good idea to stick to those options if you are new to this. I recommend you to be discreet and don't get many different guests coming and going because that might call attention.

[Teltel]

I will be in Shanghai from 1. January and stay for some months, and I would like some advice if possible. Would prefer to get agency / independents to my hotel room, what is the risk here after crackdowns? What is the best / safest way to go about this. Is there any websites to recommend or to steer away from?

You posted the answer then asked the question. Why? As for websites, many are mentioned in this very section of ISG.

Teltel.

[Lucasniels1]

In my experience it is possible to get an outcall provider to come into your hotel without talking to anyone or showing any ID for a short stay. You can tell her to meet you at a public place of the hotel, for example the bar, that is open to the public and head to your room afterwards. Also, meeting her outside the hotel could be a good idea. Ask your guest to be discreet while in public. For example, if you don't talk and she walks behind you it can be seen as two people who are going to the same floor by accident. I recommend to use a big hotel where lots of people come and go through the lobby rather than a small hotel where you can stand out easily. Enjoy!

Hi,

Arriving in shanghai the 2. January, and would love some advice. Would prefer agency / independent to come to my hotel for short time. What is the best way to go about doing this? What are the risks / pitfalls in general and after the crackdown. Is there any web pages that are recommended and some that should never be used? If anyone have any advice I'm all ears.

[Lucasniels1]

In my experience it is possible to get an outcall provider to come into your hotel without talking to anyone or showing any ID for a short stay. You can tell her to meet you at a public place of the hotel, for example the bar, that is open to the public and head to your room afterwards. Also, meeting her outside the hotel could be a good idea. Ask your guest to be discreet while in public. For example, if you don't talk and she walks behind you it can be seen as two people who are going to the same floor by accident. I recommend to use a big hotel where lots of people come and go through the lobby rather than a small hotel where you can stand out easily. Enjoy!

I will be in Shanghai from 1. January and stay for some months, and I would like some advice if possible. Would prefer to get agency / independents to my hotel room, what is the risk here after crackdowns? What is the best / safest way to go about this. Is there any websites to recommend or to steer away from?

[ExpatLover]

I have 5 hours to wait in Pudong airport. Will head the the fake market near the technology museum. Then I could do with a massage with some extra to relax for a bit. Any idea which is the easiest or nearest to with airport or museum? It seems Changshou lu is the one most mentioned. No idea if this is close or easy to find. Any help appreciated.

Small advice, stay in the airport, 2 weeks ago I tried to find something in Pudong area, ended with a average girl in the Ramada Hotel, even she doesn't want to give BJ, ask her to leave without any rmb. Without real contacts in Shanghai it is difficult to get something worth it. Even I am perfectly fluent in Chinese it doesn't help anymore just because the offer is too narrow, I am always lucky in a Starbucks but you need more time and spend some energy and money to seduce the girl.

[All For Bb]

Besides the CNY approaching soon here are some other events which are affecting Shanghai.

https://www.shine.cn/news/metro/1812277331/

https://www.shine.cn/news/metro/1812297428/

https://www.shine.cn/news/metro/1801279572/

Do you think these local meetings will have great impacts?

[Sinofaguo]

Besides the CNY approaching soon here are some other events which are affecting Shanghai.

https://www.shine.cn/news/metro/1812277331/

https://www.shine.cn/news/metro/1812297428/

https://www.shine.cn/news/metro/1801279572/

[TravelPlay]

Hey everyone,

I'm trying to get me an outcall provider to come to my hotel. I was wondering if they will need a passport to come upstairs? When I checked in today, I was required to show my passport and scan my face at the hotel lobby. This seems like something that would not pass for most providers. Do I have to meet outside the hotel or could we just head straight from the lobby to the elevator without being stopped.

In my experience it is possible to get an outcall provider to come into your hotel without talking to anyone or showing any ID for a short stay. You can tell her to meet you at a public place of the hotel, for example the bar, that is open to the public and head to your room afterwards. Also, meeting her outside the hotel could be a good idea. Ask your guest to be discreet while in public. For example, if you don't talk and she walks behind you it can be seen as two people who are going to the same floor by accident. I recommend to use a big hotel where lots of people come and go through the lobby rather than a small hotel where you can stand out easily. Enjoy!

[TheBandit888]

MeiHua Road, one block up from the the Kerry hotel end (line 7 on the metro). There are a few places there if you have a scout about.

I have 5 hours to wait in Pudong airport. Will head the the fake market near the technology museum. Then I could do with a massage with some extra to relax for a bit. Any idea which is the easiest or nearest to with airport or museum? It seems Changshou lu is the one most mentioned. No idea if this is close or easy to find. Any help appreciated.

[Troyboy74]

I have 5 hours to wait in Pudong airport. Will head the the fake market near the technology museum. Then I could do with a massage with some extra to relax for a bit. Any idea which is the easiest or nearest to with airport or museum? It seems Changshou lu is the one most mentioned. No idea if this is close or easy to find. Any help appreciated.