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  1. #14271
    True, but also depends. Iam ABC, so disclaimer that I don't stick out as you said, however:

    If you try to hit elevator apartment compounds in city center, there's some that's very popular like the fake mountain compound in Jing'an and Brilliance city, it's not so much of an issue because 1) foreigners live there themselves 2) lots of people come and go there. Ofc if you hit some outskirt places or some very old buildings ones where they also sometimes operate it is very easy to stand out. But also older nongtang in city center have many foreigners living there so it's also somewhat okay.

    The issue mostly however is that she serves alot of customers they probably going to notice people coming and going which is slightly less noticeable in an elevator building like I said earlier. Also girls do suggest to 1) not knock 2) leave one floor earlier or later and walk the stairs etc.

    Also some operate out of smaller services apartments that's like hotels that also ok. Esp in xuhui area there are some that are in small-mid serviced apartments that have a lot of coming and goings that make it easy to mask your coming and going.

    Ofc all what you said still holds true, it's just that if you are able and can identify good addresses the scene is ok. Also telegram has alot of outcall options (but all telegram are agents and the girls coming are not the same at all) but there's like 20 groups where agent advertise actively for girls to come to you. Just be prepared for random girls or similar looking girls rather than the exact one you saw on photos. QQ Ana telegram in calls are usually the sms girl on photo with 70-80% accuracy due to filter and photoshop and possibly older photos when they were younger, but they usually the same.

    Another thing with QQ girls is they mostly offer service style what chinese call A be side. Which is less common with other types nowadays available.

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwestern  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, but the problems with QQ girls are that.

    (1) they are not easy to find and navigate if you cannot read Chinese.

    (2) they often don't want to meet foreigners (no, no, it's not because foreigners have bigger wee wees, it's because they don't want their neighbors to see foreigners going in an out of their apartments.

    (3) we foreigners stand out like sore thumbs, walking around those low-end compounds, looking for the right addresses, and so the guards may call us out, or nosy neighbors may call the cops.

  2. #14270
    Quote Originally Posted by Tefnx  [View Original Post]
    On storefronts, it moved now all into buildings and compounds with QQ contacts etc, which is still quite alive.
    Yeah, but the problems with QQ girls are that.

    (1) they are not easy to find and navigate if you cannot read Chinese.

    (2) they often don't want to meet foreigners (no, no, it's not because foreigners have bigger wee wees, it's because they don't want their neighbors to see foreigners going in an out of their apartments.

    (3) we foreigners stand out like sore thumbs, walking around those low-end compounds, looking for the right addresses, and so the guards may call us out, or nosy neighbors may call the cops.

  3. #14269
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    Yes. It's dead, Jim.

    The crackdown was deadly effective.
    On storefronts, it moved now all into buildings and compounds with QQ contacts etc, which is still quite alive.

  4. #14268
    Quote Originally Posted by Rodneey  [View Original Post]
    Had a look in the new M's on Maoming lu last night. Hardly any ladies in there, just Chinese guys drinking at tables with a Chinese guitarist playing live on stage. The Viets were nowhere to be seen, I guess they're not able to come back yet.
    Long time lurker here.

    Yes M is dead, but J still has some but the ratio is horrible. Went there the other night around 11 pm and there was maybe 5 girls and 20 guys and when I left after 5 min more guys kept coming by truckloads (taxis).

    But M had only 2 girls with like 30 guys but they do have a liveband.

  5. #14267
    Quote Originally Posted by DigLicker  [View Original Post]
    Never been to China and a lurker. Curious as to what happened with those supposed crackdowns a couple of years back. Did it really affect mongering or no? I just watched a serpentza video on the one where he talks about prostitution and he says its everywhere but he is also a bluepilled cuck so I don't trust alot of what he says. I always wanted to monger here but its kind of sad they brought everything down.
    Yes. It's dead, Jim.

    The crackdown was deadly effective.

  6. #14266

    The new M's

    Had a look in the new M's on Maoming lu last night. Hardly any ladies in there, just Chinese guys drinking at tables with a Chinese guitarist playing live on stage. The Viets were nowhere to be seen, I guess they're not able to come back yet.

  7. #14265
    Quote Originally Posted by TallDarkUsa  [View Original Post]
    Just got my work visa approved and I will be moving to China for a year or so. I will be living in Wuxi but will travel back and forth between there and Shanghai.

    This will be my first time mongering in China. I have lived in Thailand and Japan and to find girls and fun is very easy. So I'm looking for.

    Help in both WUXI & SHANGHAI!

    Looking for sites to contact escorts. I am a fan of massage parlors also so if you have any favorites in that area please let me know. Also not sure if they have brothel style places like in South America but I would also like to know about that.

    I will begin my research and if anyone find themselves in that part of China soon let me know. First round on me!
    Massage Republic, Shanghai Nightlife Online are two that came to mind.

  8. #14264

    Moving to China

    Just got my work visa approved and I will be moving to China for a year or so. I will be living in Wuxi but will travel back and forth between there and Shanghai.

    This will be my first time mongering in China. I have lived in Thailand and Japan and to find girls and fun is very easy. So I'm looking for.

    Help in both WUXI & SHANGHAI!

    Looking for sites to contact escorts. I am a fan of massage parlors also so if you have any favorites in that area please let me know. Also not sure if they have brothel style places like in South America but I would also like to know about that.

    I will begin my research and if anyone find themselves in that part of China soon let me know. First round on me!

  9. #14263

    Visa valid again

    Oh yeah, Oh yeah.

  10. #14262

    10 yr China Visa

    Quote Originally Posted by Beijing4987  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone received a 10 year business visa recently?
    I got mine in 2017 & now its live again.

  11. #14261

    10 year multiple entry visa

    Has anyone received a 10 year business visa recently?

  12. #14260

    Tried a couple new massage parlors

    Tried a couple new massage parlor. 1) yongjia between south shaanxi and Jiashan. Window shop. Wouldn't bother to report as it's the usual HJ type window shop with ugly older women. But on occasion they have a girl mid 30's who has massive boobs so worth checking out if you are a boob man. She only seems to be in once a week so not worth checking in less you live in the area. Cost 500 for average HJ but lots of boobs in face play. 2) Nextr corner of Ruijin / Taikang. Advertised as Spa. Went in and there were quite a lot of women. Mostly 6's. She gives me a massage for 400 but then asks for a tip for extras. Very bad handjob. Not worth it. Anyone know of any places like the ones on Wanping and Jumen. The 499 full body and tongue bath. Big fan of the Jumen place but they are closed since last week and the boss doesn't know when they will be open again.

  13. #14259

    Blatant Service Center

    Anybody remember the "Luxury Hair Wash" business at the corner of Wanhangdu & Beijing West roads about 15 years ago? I stuck my bald head into the doorway and asked how much for service. "300. Rmb" We all had lots of fun at the massage spa (upstairs) next to it, now taken over by the Muslim restaurant. Only one spa left in that chain of three.

  14. #14258
    Quote Originally Posted by GaoXing  [View Original Post]
    It continues to amuse me (well, actually makes me cringe) when people here refer to weather in Shanghai as being "stormy" or "windy" or "a sustained low pressure system.
    Yes a bit cringy, but I think people only tend to use those terms as they're translations from the Chinese, and it's how the locals describe it.

    Quote Originally Posted by GaoXing  [View Original Post]
    Moving slowly across the lower Yangtze Valley. " They haven't learned that there is no such thing. There is only one condition: stable instability. Guys who think it's going to be stable after the next "political meeting", "trade conference" or "international visit" are just deluded. There's always a risk. And it's pretty low.
    I don't think anyone who's been here a while thinks things are ever completely stable or 100% safe, even at the best of times. But it's a fact that when high profile events are going on, the risk is simply higher and raids are more frequent. If this wasn't the case, places wouldn't have their curtains drawn during certain periods, and have them wide open at other times.

  15. #14257

    No storm in sight

    It continues to amuse me (well, actually makes me cringe) when people here refer to weather in Shanghai as being "stormy" or "windy" or "a sustained low pressure system.

    Moving slowly across the lower Yangtze Valley. " They haven't learned that there is no such thing. There is only one condition: stable instability. Guys who think it's going to be stable after the next "political meeting", "trade conference" or "international visit" are just deluded. There's always a risk. And it's pretty low.

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