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  1. #12157
    In regards to Manhattan, the intimidation factor is definitely a thing, but I think having a wingman puts a perspective in things. Namely, being with other like minded people may prevent an otherwise lone person from doing something stupid. I would definitely check it out solo, but would prefer to go with someone. Will try this weekend (Friday / Saturday).

    Also, it's nice that they blocked my home VPN already (signed up for another service encrypts the handshake). Ironically, my work VPN is also blocked (which has never happened before). I may switch hotels if that's the case.

  2. #12156

    Short time hotels

    A friendly suggestion to my friends who cannot do outcall or takeout (because (1) wife is at home or (2) hotel is not girl friendly or (3) you're afraid of being seen), try asking the girl to book a short time hotel for you. I got the idea from the infamous Beverly Jones. She suggested it and that's how we always met. Chinese people can book a hotel for 4 hours for 100 RMB. (FYI, I tried to book them myself, but have been denied because I'm a foreigner). I have to admit, you may need to establish trust with a girl first. For example, I had to book a Hotel 168 a few times for the initial rendezvous, which set me back at least 250 RMB (and it's a hassle anyway). But once the girl knows you, you tell her you can only see her if she books the hotel that you'll reimburse. They often will oblige. And girls like Wenli (on classifieds) and the well known Hujing and Maria, and others, all booked the short time hotels for me from the very first encounter. For them, cancellation is fully refundable so they don't care if you flake on the date. Just a suggestion. Probably many of you are already doing this.

  3. #12155
    Quote Originally Posted by SimonWagstaff  [View Original Post]
    Beach Club in Kuala Lumpur is very similar to Manhattan, actually a little nicer because it's a bit bigger and more open to the outside. Also much cheaper for nice girls, especially Vietnamese, but all flavors.

    Ipanema in Singapore is also a lot of fun, and similar. Prices range from 150-200 Singapore.

    I certainly met a stunning Viet at Manhattan, and still chat with her. Priciest of the bunch.
    I understand Der Xie. I used to love going to these takeout places when I didn't mind staying out late, but it's still better to go with a friend so you can drink with your buddy while eyeing the talent and pondering who to take home. If you go alone, you get hounded by one after another for a fast deal. For me, Ipanema in SG was an exception, since it had that Galaga video arcade game, so I had something to do while scouting the talent. I played that game for so many hours over so many years, LOL.

  4. #12154

    Lots of places like Manhattan

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    I have not done Manilla so I can't compare, but Manhattan is unlike anywhere else I've been in a bar. You will not be bored. If anything you might feel a little intimidated. The girls are all interested in you and some can be pretty aggressive. I personally find it great fun. You just have to be firm if an aggressive girl is not your type and that can be hard with her grinding against you. It is a once in a lifetime experience IMO. I would not miss it if in Shanghai.
    Beach Club in Kuala Lumpur is very similar to Manhattan, actually a little nicer because it's a bit bigger and more open to the outside. Also much cheaper for nice girls, especially Vietnamese, but all flavors.

    Ipanema in Singapore is also a lot of fun, and similar. Prices range from 150-200 Singapore.

    I certainly met a stunning Viet at Manhattan, and still chat with her. Priciest of the bunch.

  5. #12153
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    I have not done Manilla so I can't compare, but Manhattan is unlike anywhere else I've been in a bar. You will not be bored. If anything you might feel a little intimidated. The girls are all interested in you and some can be pretty aggressive. I personally find it great fun. You just have to be firm if an aggressive girl is not your type and that can be hard with her grinding against you. It is a once in a lifetime experience IMO. I would not miss it if in Shanghai.
    Yeah, Manhattan is pretty good for what it is. I'm not sure there's a bar in HCMC with the same Viet talent (though varies some from night to night).

  6. #12152

    Just try it.

    Quote Originally Posted by DexXie  [View Original Post]
    Arrived in Shanghai. I'm actually in PuXi area. Visited an old massage place on Xietu Rd near Shanghai stadium. Prices posted was only 188 RMB, but they also have a 328 RMB option. Management specifically said no tips. Price includes girl getting naked and BBBJCIM finish. She was mid / late 20's, short and HWP. Disclaimer, I'm Asian and speak fluent Chinese. Don't read Chinese so well though.

    Would like to hit up Manhattan sometime, but would prefer going with someone. When I was in Manila, I just got super bored just scoping things out at similar bars (or maybe it's just not my thing, who knows).

    Also, I flew from from San Jose, where in the preceding days, I saw 3 different K-girls (one repeat) at 220 USD / hour. If any contributing members go there, I can provide some info. Two girls where late 20's, MSOG, bbjcim, and full GFE spa treatment. Third girl was somewhat unique. Very early 20's (didn't bother with makeup), not so GFE / pfe, but super hot (I like petite spinners).

    Also, hope my home VPN works for the duration of my stay. 2 years ago when I was here, it stopped working like after 2 weeks, which was a bummer. And I'm jet lagged, as its almost 3 am here. So I'm pretty screwed tomorrow.
    I have not done Manilla so I can't compare, but Manhattan is unlike anywhere else I've been in a bar. You will not be bored. If anything you might feel a little intimidated. The girls are all interested in you and some can be pretty aggressive. I personally find it great fun. You just have to be firm if an aggressive girl is not your type and that can be hard with her grinding against you. It is a once in a lifetime experience IMO. I would not miss it if in Shanghai.

  7. #12151
    Arrived in Shanghai. I'm actually in PuXi area. Visited an old massage place on Xietu Rd near Shanghai stadium. Prices posted was only 188 RMB, but they also have a 328 RMB option. Management specifically said no tips. Price includes girl getting naked and BBBJCIM finish. She was mid / late 20's, short and HWP. Disclaimer, I'm Asian and speak fluent Chinese. Don't read Chinese so well though.

    Would like to hit up Manhattan sometime, but would prefer going with someone. When I was in Manila, I just got super bored just scoping things out at similar bars (or maybe it's just not my thing, who knows).

    Also, I flew from from San Jose, where in the preceding days, I saw 3 different K-girls (one repeat) at 220 USD / hour. If any contributing members go there, I can provide some info. Two girls where late 20's, MSOG, bbjcim, and full GFE spa treatment. Third girl was somewhat unique. Very early 20's (didn't bother with makeup), not so GFE / pfe, but super hot (I like petite spinners).

    Also, hope my home VPN works for the duration of my stay. 2 years ago when I was here, it stopped working like after 2 weeks, which was a bummer. And I'm jet lagged, as its almost 3 am here. So I'm pretty screwed tomorrow.

  8. #12150

    Spring Massage

    Stopped in at a Spring Massage today. Followed advice of many on this forum visiting a Spring outside the city center. This one on the no. 2 metro line prior to Hongqiao airport. Then walked for a while.

    Probably true you get more for your $ outside the center. Did 398 all included and was not pestered for tip. I like it that way. Regular massage (no horseplay), then she completely stripped, showered (in room) and seemed happy to do anything I wanted with her. Might have even been upset I didn't feel like screwing her.

    Not a bad deal, I guess, but I really don't like the inability to choose from a lineup. Saw other providers while exiting that I would have preferred. No knockouts, of course, but more to my liking. Well, I guess that's what they give you for sixty bucks.

    By the way, I'm getting hit up regularly for addresses of establishments I report on. That's cool, but I won't provide for those who have not posted their own helpful accounts for others. Surprised how many don't get that.

  9. #12149

    My experiences at Spring.

    I have been going to Spring massage for about 4 years now.

    YMMV in each place. But I would say the Meridian massage (or oil massage for foreigners) includes he. No tip needed. But if you want them to touch them or do anything extra, then tips required.

    My best experience was at the one on maoming lu. When I was on my stomach and she was standing near the top of the table by my head. She slips of her shoes and climbs onto the table. She straddles my head and is massaging downward onto my back. I could feel the warmth from her LS on the back of my head. She spreads her legs a bit more and her LS gets even closer to my head. While massaging my back. Eventually she is actually grinding her LS through her panties onto my head. It was pretty hot.

    Flip over later and gives me a great HJ along with BBBJ for a 200 tip. It was great. I got her weixin contact. And then each time I wanted to go, I would ping her and have her schedule for me. So I would ensure to see her.

    I think by about my 4th visit, we were basically just doing FS in the room for 60 minutes. Then I would tip her 500 and pay the massage (258 at the time for members).

    If you build a repoire with the girls over multiple visits everything is on menu.

    Had FS with another girl on my second visit at the spring on Jiang Ning Lu. She was very hot. Also got her wechat and set up second visit through her.

    Had BBBJ from another girl on zhaojiebang lu on first visit.

    I did visit the waping lu branch last week. Its 398 rmb now for he massage. Getting a bit steep.

    Curious if anyone has any other new places to try. You can PM me if you want to share.

    J.

  10. #12148
    Quote Originally Posted by JudeBright  [View Original Post]
    Many SN have reopen in low profile. If you have been there before or if you have old contact, maybe it is easy to get in through wechat or qq. I have a few old contacts. But I have to be careful to give out as I do not want the get then in trouble.

    Jb.
    Any advice on how to sample safely? Do they have new arrangements with the authorities or run the risk of a raid at any time.

    Very interested now to try the top end models, but pricing for the outcall is crazy and am suspicious of b / S.

    Came very close to visiting on last trip, if I go will report back!

  11. #12147
    Quote Originally Posted by BlahMan333  [View Original Post]
    So, is SH basically totally dead in terms of saunas? Any info appreciated.
    Many SN have reopen in low profile. If you have been there before or if you have old contact, maybe it is easy to get in through wechat or qq. I have a few old contacts. But I have to be careful to give out as I do not want the get then in trouble.

    Jb.

  12. #12146

    Latest status of saunas

    So, is SH basically totally dead in terms of saunas? Any info appreciated.

  13. #12145

    Spring Ya'an Rd / Zhaojiabang Rd

    Quote Originally Posted by JginSH  [View Original Post]
    Hey all,


    I haven't been back to Spring since they took the showers out of the rooms about 8 months back, any insights?
    "The Ya'an / Zhaojiabang Spring didn't take the showers from the rooms and the 358 option is still on the unofficial books, even if the service is reduced to a basic he massage so they seem to have survived the inclement weather."

    That's what I would have written two months ago after a previous visit. However I went last week and everything is different. The front desk staff were new and didn't really know the drill. The massage lady (more mature than the usual) turned up in the more traditional tunic found in veggie shops. The shower was still in the room, but I had to walk down the corridor to another room where all the furniture had been removed and use the shower there.

    The massage, was excellent so I was beginning to think they had gone legit and, TBH, it was so good, I wouldn't have been that worried. However, after the flip, she started 'testing the waters' to see if I was interested in more. Then asked for a 400 tip. I managed to get that down to 200 and she gave me one of the best HEs that I've experienced at Spring.

    So, physically a win-win but financially a bit of a fail. There's another place, not to far away that's more expensive than Spring where the service has been improving after the storms and where I have yet to be asked for tips. I'll go there for now. PM for details if you're interested.

  14. #12144
    Quote Originally Posted by ChinaGm  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    Last month I was in SH, century Park zone.

    Reading about Spring spa, I decided to go to the closest one, in Pudong Street.

    I paid the 338 rmb massage version.

    Very nice place, beautiful girl. But.

    The girl asked for more other 500 rmb of tip for HJ, without any possibility to reduce the amount.

    So I gave up.

    According to that I presume that there are different "categories" of Spring massage.
    I have been to several Spring locations, and I always got the most expensive massage, around 336 rmb, and I always got asked for a large tip for HJ. I am pretty sure it is because I speak almost no Chinese and so the girl thinks I am a one-time client so she's got very little to lose by asking for a huge tip, like 300-500. At one place, the girl insisted on 500 tip and I said no and she strongly indicated it would be worth it, so I stupidly said okay because I was curious. I have to admit it was a good HJ and she did get almost entirely naked, but not worth 500 obviously. Afterwards, I asked for her wechat and she was surprised and gave it to me. The following week she sent me a message and asked me if I was still in Shanghai and I told her yes and she asked me to come see her. I told her she ripped me off. She apologized and told me to return. So I did. This time the HJ was longer and even better. I then offered her 200 and she was thrilled. And now she sends me a message every few days. She even came to work early one time to accomodate my schedule. So if you can pass as a potential regular customer then you can probably tip 100-200 or nothing at all. The main downside to collecting any girl's wechat is they then think you are their regular client and may be hurt or angry if you see another girl at their location, LOL.

  15. #12143

    Spring spa in Pudong Street.

    Hi,

    Last month I was in SH, century Park zone.

    Reading about Spring spa, I decided to go to the closest one, in Pudong Street.

    I paid the 338 rmb massage version.

    Very nice place, beautiful girl. But.

    The girl asked for more other 500 rmb of tip for HJ, without any possibility to reduce the amount.

    So I gave up.

    According to that I presume that there are different "categories" of Spring massage.

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