East China - Shanghai

[Kixxx]

Going to come to Shanghai for a while. Checking some on the internet about the Tang dynasty finds it interesting. Planning to check the place out.

How is tang dynasty? Is it good? Is it safe (from any police or any shit)?

[Mike921]

Had an interesting welcome to Shanghai recently.

Another curious thing was that all three thugs supervised me at the ATM but from a distance. None was watching over me or even keen to get a look at the PIN number.

Moresauce

Most likely they wanted to stay out of the view of any ATM surveillance cameras. Good to hear you kept your fingers and received a refund.

[MoreSauce]

What's the location of the scam massage?

Sorry mate, I didn't think to jot down the name and address at the time.

I do agree with Bionic's comments though. Despite my minimal participation in this forum I'm reasonably well travelled in Asia. I guess even the best of us trip over every so often. Particularly when Mr Floppy takes over the clear thinking.

I'm guessing there would be some interesting stories out there if others cared to share them.

I'll be back in Shanghai in a couple of weeks and just for you EsotericHuangpu, I'll go back and get the details. Would you like the phone number and receptionist's name as well?

Good luck with your projects.

MoreSauce

[BionicMan]

What's the location of the scam massage?

Just follow the lady. She will take you there. LOL. Seriously what you have to be careful and beware of are these offers on the street.

We read many in here and there are areas (especially those attended by foreigners) where everything is on offer, but mostl likely nothing is on the shelves other than a scam like this one.
Just beware and never believe sex is cheap in a big city.

PS: there was no need to quote the whole post to just add a line of comment...takes lots of screen space for nothing

[EsotericHuangpu]

had an interesting welcome to shanghai recently.

after a long day flight into shanghai i decided to take an evening stroll before bed. i was staying the west end of nanjing road near renmin square and i'd barely stepped off the forecourt when i was approached by a woman offering a massage for 100rmb or a sexy massage for 400rmb.

normally my bullshit antenna would have been twitching furiously but it had been an early start, a long day, it was close to midnight and i was tired. the standard massage sounded just fine. particularly with the potential to upgrade if the going was good.

so off we go to the shop located on the second floor of a small shopping arcade near the hotel and just down the road from a police station. now i should have twigged when they didn't want money up front but the receptionist seemed very helpful and the girl i'd booked seemed nice too. so i stripped down for a massage but the girl went straight for the grope. another sign missed.

so here i am face down on the table and there's a pretty pathetic two minutes of back rub then it's a reach under for the grope again. i decline and she leaves the room for some reason then comes back. the same back rub, go the grope and leave the room repeats. twice. and still i'm oblivious to the warning signs.

after the third departure a chinese man (let's call him thug 1) comes into the room and blocks the door. it seems there's a problem. i haven't paid the room rental (2000rmb) that's clearly marked on a price list that's hidden amongst various massage related items on a low shelf. along with tips, girl fees, towel rental, laundry fee, oil fee and assorted other imagined charges i now owe 9980rmb.

yep, my 100rmb massage has, in the space of about 15 minutes, jumped to almost 10, 000rmb.

i'm trying to not laugh in thug 1's face because i intentionally don't carry much more than the 400rmb originally quoted. the conversation stays fairly civil but he insists that they are happy to take the fee off my credit card. i decline.

he insists that i should pay now because the charge is likely to rise but i still decline. i tell him i have very little money on me and nothing like what he's asking. he asks to see my wallet but i tell him i'm not showing it to him while we stand inside this little massage room. happy to go out to reception but i'm told that's not possible.

then another man (thug 2) comes into the room. the conversation remains civil but is becoming more forceful although they still haven't touched me. they again ask to see my wallet and i decline. they tell me that if i don't pay then they will cut off one of my fingers. i get the feeling that despite their bulk it's all a bluff so i decline yet again.

then, yet another man (thug 3) enters the room and i'm starting to get worried. this is a little room and there are now four hyped up men in here with the door closed. we're likely to all collapse from lack of oxygen. thug 3 doesn't speak but keeps up the serious stare while the first two alternate, trying to convince me to part with the cash. still declining.

they tell me that they have film footage of me 'reeping the girl'. initially i look around for a possible hidden camera but there's nothing obvious. then i realise they are talking about [CodeWord123]. well that clearly didn't happen because she was going the grope and i was declining so thats confirmed that there is no footage. still i decline to pay up but it's getting pretty stuffy in the room.

next stage is they grab me and thugs 1 & 3 hold me down on the massage table while the thug 2 pulls my pants down around my ankles and then grabs some shots of my genitals on his phone. not something i'd want on my phone but there again there are some strange straight men in this world.

once that was done i was allowed to stand up and and get dressed. the next threat is that the photos will be going up on the web. not my first tilt at fame on the web but i'm not particularly stressed. no pain was inflicted in this little exercise until they told me i was 'very small'. ouch! still not paying but.

next step is to pin my left hand on the bench with the threat of a broken pointer finger. it was pulled back but well short of the breaking point. then out comes a drinking glass and the suggestion is to break the glass and use the remnants to cut off the same finger but the glass was never broken. just more words. then out comes a pair of pliers and the threat to cut the finger off but they turned out to be a pair of computer crimping pliers. they'd hardly do any damage with those. silly as it might sound i'm finding this really fascinating but i'm still holding out.

next up there was a fair bit of checking outside the door and in the passageway towards reception. curiously during all of this the women who were so plentiful when i first arrived were nowhere to be seen. so this is clearly not a one off event.

the next thing thugs 2 & 3 grabbed me while thug 1 threw a couple of plastic bags over my head and face. they told me they were taking me somewhere else which, i must admit, was starting to lift the stress level. once i left the building i would have no idea where i was and a reduced opportunities to seek help. but my immediate problem was that the head cover was plastic bags and i would suffocate before i got down the stairs. i complained about the lack of air and the bags were lifted to nose level. i then wound being marched all the way across the passageway to the room opposite.

in this room they opened a window and told me i was to jump out of the window. they said the police would say i was drunk and fell out and that would be the end of it. i knew i was only on the second floor and that there was a canopy outside the room i was originally in. so it was also likely that the canopy was less than a metre below this window as well. but there was a risk of them attempting to dangle me by the feet from this window to get me to pay up. at 100kgs the risk of being dropped was not worth it.

also there was mention of a compromise 3000rmb payment so i backed down. i should have just paid by credit card and got the transaction reversed but i really wasn't thinking as clearly as normal and i agreed to be escorted down to an atm to draw down the final agreed sum of 3500rmb. in cash. it seems i still had to pay the girl for the alleged 'sexy massage'.

another curious thing was that all three thugs supervised me at the atm but from a distance. none was watching over me or even keen to get a look at the pin number. even though it was now getting on for 2am there were still some people around and i was tempted to walk but i decided i'd had enough excitement for one day. once the cash was handed over i was free to go and i did

so, if you're wondering how it turned out. well, i got a happy ending

i spoke to the concierge at my hotel the next day about the previous nights adventures and they provided me with a lovely young lady to act as a translator. then together with two burly security chaps we returned to the massage place. it seems management were more than happy to negotiate a resolution and with the oversight of rent-a-thugs (on my side this time) we obtained a full, no questions asked, refund.

curiously it was decided that the local police, who were just up the street, would not be involved. it seemed a bit strange to me but it's their country and it's not up to me to tell them how they should run it.

so, i guess the moral of the story is 'if it seems too good to be true then it probably is'. or 'don't go out late at night when you're tired & emotional or just plain tired'.

and a huge shout out for the le meridian hotel for engineering a swift, smooth and discreet resolution.

good luck with your projects.

moresauce

what's the location of the scam massage?

[MoreSauce]

had an interesting welcome to shanghai recently.

after a long day flight into shanghai i decided to take an evening stroll before bed. i was staying the west end of nanjing road near renmin square and i'd barely stepped off the forecourt when i was approached by a woman offering a massage for 100rmb or a sexy massage for 400rmb.

normally my bullshit antenna would have been twitching furiously but it had been an early start, a long day, it was close to midnight and i was tired. the standard massage sounded just fine. particularly with the potential to upgrade if the going was good.

so off we go to the shop located on the second floor of a small shopping arcade near the hotel and just down the road from a police station. now i should have twigged when they didn't want money up front but the receptionist seemed very helpful and the girl i'd booked seemed nice too. so i stripped down for a massage but the girl went straight for the grope. another sign missed.

so here i am face down on the table and there's a pretty pathetic two minutes of back rub then it's a reach under for the grope again. i decline and she leaves the room for some reason then comes back. the same back rub, go the grope and leave the room repeats. twice. and still i'm oblivious to the warning signs.

after the third departure a chinese man (let's call him thug 1) comes into the room and blocks the door. it seems there's a problem. i haven't paid the room rental (2000rmb) that's clearly marked on a price list that's hidden amongst various massage related items on a low shelf. along with tips, girl fees, towel rental, laundry fee, oil fee and assorted other imagined charges i now owe 9980rmb.

yep, my 100rmb massage has, in the space of about 15 minutes, jumped to almost 10, 000rmb.

i'm trying to not laugh in thug 1's face because i intentionally don't carry much more than the 400rmb originally quoted. the conversation stays fairly civil but he insists that they are happy to take the fee off my credit card. i decline.

he insists that i should pay now because the charge is likely to rise but i still decline. i tell him i have very little money on me and nothing like what he's asking. he asks to see my wallet but i tell him i'm not showing it to him while we stand inside this little massage room. happy to go out to reception but i'm told that's not possible.

then another man (thug 2) comes into the room. the conversation remains civil but is becoming more forceful although they still haven't touched me. they again ask to see my wallet and i decline. they tell me that if i don't pay then they will cut off one of my fingers. i get the feeling that despite their bulk it's all a bluff so i decline yet again.

then, yet another man (thug 3) enters the room and i'm starting to get worried. this is a little room and there are now four hyped up men in here with the door closed. we're likely to all collapse from lack of oxygen. thug 3 doesn't speak but keeps up the serious stare while the first two alternate, trying to convince me to part with the cash. still declining.

they tell me that they have film footage of me 'reeping the girl'. initially i look around for a possible hidden camera but there's nothing obvious. then i realise they are talking about [CodeWord123]. well that clearly didn't happen because she was going the grope and i was declining so thats confirmed that there is no footage. still i decline to pay up but it's getting pretty stuffy in the room.

next stage is they grab me and thugs 1 & 3 hold me down on the massage table while the thug 2 pulls my pants down around my ankles and then grabs some shots of my genitals on his phone. not something i'd want on my phone but there again there are some strange straight men in this world.

once that was done i was allowed to stand up and and get dressed. the next threat is that the photos will be going up on the web. not my first tilt at fame on the web but i'm not particularly stressed. no pain was inflicted in this little exercise until they told me i was 'very small'. ouch! still not paying but.

next step is to pin my left hand on the bench with the threat of a broken pointer finger. it was pulled back but well short of the breaking point. then out comes a drinking glass and the suggestion is to break the glass and use the remnants to cut off the same finger but the glass was never broken. just more words. then out comes a pair of pliers and the threat to cut the finger off but they turned out to be a pair of computer crimping pliers. they'd hardly do any damage with those. silly as it might sound i'm finding this really fascinating but i'm still holding out.

next up there was a fair bit of checking outside the door and in the passageway towards reception. curiously during all of this the women who were so plentiful when i first arrived were nowhere to be seen. so this is clearly not a one off event.

the next thing thugs 2 & 3 grabbed me while thug 1 threw a couple of plastic bags over my head and face. they told me they were taking me somewhere else which, i must admit, was starting to lift the stress level. once i left the building i would have no idea where i was and a reduced opportunities to seek help. but my immediate problem was that the head cover was plastic bags and i would suffocate before i got down the stairs. i complained about the lack of air and the bags were lifted to nose level. i then wound being marched all the way across the passageway to the room opposite.

in this room they opened a window and told me i was to jump out of the window. they said the police would say i was drunk and fell out and that would be the end of it. i knew i was only on the second floor and that there was a canopy outside the room i was originally in. so it was also likely that the canopy was less than a metre below this window as well. but there was a risk of them attempting to dangle me by the feet from this window to get me to pay up. at 100kgs the risk of being dropped was not worth it.

also there was mention of a compromise 3000rmb payment so i backed down. i should have just paid by credit card and got the transaction reversed but i really wasn't thinking as clearly as normal and i agreed to be escorted down to an atm to draw down the final agreed sum of 3500rmb. in cash. it seems i still had to pay the girl for the alleged 'sexy massage'.

another curious thing was that all three thugs supervised me at the atm but from a distance. none was watching over me or even keen to get a look at the pin number. even though it was now getting on for 2am there were still some people around and i was tempted to walk but i decided i'd had enough excitement for one day. once the cash was handed over i was free to go and i did

so, if you're wondering how it turned out. well, i got a happy ending

i spoke to the concierge at my hotel the next day about the previous nights adventures and they provided me with a lovely young lady to act as a translator. then together with two burly security chaps we returned to the massage place. it seems management were more than happy to negotiate a resolution and with the oversight of rent-a-thugs (on my side this time) we obtained a full, no questions asked, refund.

curiously it was decided that the local police, who were just up the street, would not be involved. it seemed a bit strange to me but it's their country and it's not up to me to tell them how they should run it.

so, i guess the moral of the story is 'if it seems too good to be true then it probably is'. or 'don't go out late at night when you're tired & emotional or just plain tired'.

and a huge shout out for the le meridian hotel for engineering a swift, smooth and discreet resolution.

good luck with your projects.

moresauce

[GregoryB]

Sometimes she calls herself Cathywendy in one name.

Looks is luckily "some like some don't like" otherwise we all would run for the same, hahaha.

I like.

Gregory.

I sent Cathy an e-mail and her e-mail address was "Wendy," but she signed it "Cathy." Do you know why the two different names? Her service seems to be very good. How about her looks?

[ThomasCasey]

I will be having first business trip to Shanghai April 24-May 3 and I would like to visit my first sauna club. Anyone want to join? My treat?

PM me.

Hi TSabath,

I'll also be in town during that time and am quite interested in checking out a Sauna with someone. Would hate to go alone on my first trip given my lack of local language ability. What part of town are you staying in?

[Canyon]

Cathy got a new website-she is becoming famous in Shanghai. Saw her last trip and will see her next week. Anybody that hasn't been with her, is really missing out. Last time with her-she asked-"you clean"-yes of course-she says ok I want to try rimming. Wow what a treat. Really keeps herself clean and fresh.

www.cathybeauty.wix.com/Cathy

I sent Cathy an e-mail and her e-mail address was "Wendy," but she signed it "Cathy." Do you know why the two different names? Her service seems to be very good. How about her looks?

[Marty47]

Cathy got a new website-she is becoming famous in Shanghai. Saw her last trip and will see her next week. Anybody that hasn't been with her, is really missing out. Last time with her-she asked-"you clean"-yes of course-she says ok I want to try rimming. Wow what a treat. Really keeps herself clean and fresh.

www.cathybeauty.wix.com/Cathy

[Otwin]

Hi Otwin,

Could you be precise with the location, any address or picture available?

Thanks

Just walk from through this street slowly and eyes opened. There is, right hand side, after a building site a corner building. There, on the right, stairs up, you will see behind a glass front, gals sitting and waiting. Or you head on the street, another 20 meters. Also right side. Dark red light. Also some few stairs up from street level, glass door. Gals sitting there. Opposite side of the street is a little super market.

Hope this may help you.

[BushWhack]

On my way to Manhattan last night, thought I'd take a look at Judy's first. Good choice! Entered around midnight, the place was packed. Maybe 50 girls standing around the outside, several being hugged and pawed by the guys sitting at the small tables in the center of the bar. I made one pass all the way around, saw many Pino's, two black girls in the back corner, and many pretty, pretty girls. I don't know if Manhattan could have matched Judy's tonight!

I got a beer (not easy, people were crowding the small bar area) , checked the faces again, many to choose from. I walked back over to the two black girls and chatted a while. One was about my size, almost 6 feet and not skinny. I don't think she was fat or too big, I honestly couldn't tell as it was too crowded for me to get a good look. But she introduced herself as Tracy from Ethiopia, nice smile and great attitude. She introduced her smaller, sexier friend as Victoria (I think) and said she was "wicked". After we talked for a while I was prepared to come back later and take the wicked one. Didn't turn out that way but I think it would have been very interesting.

I found a small spot to stand and listen to the band, and directly in front of me were three girls, all georgeous and one of them about 4 feet 10 inches tall with a great smile. She was wearing a little polka-dot dress that made her look like a tiny school girl. After a few songs I went over to her and we talked. Thai is from Hanoi and as I explored her body she had a really nice, round ass. I was afraid that, being so small she would be small-chested but eventually I got around to a grope or two and found some nice sized tits in there. She joked "no Silicone!" so I think she was proud of the girls.

I asked her to come home with me, she said 2 thousand. I countered with 1 thousand and she had a quick conversation with one of her friends, so obviously she wasn't making the decision here. We eventually settled in the middle. 1,500. I was tempted to hand her friend RMB 100 and ask her to please let me and Thai handle this negotiation. But it was all good-natured. This is the only night I have available for about he next four weeks, so I wasn't worried about the spend.

Thai was a great cuddle in the taxi to my apartment, she was very affectionate. We showered and I discovered a body almost too good to be true. I didn't think a girl so short and small could have a body like this. I was almost too excited. In the bed we cuddled some more, then she grabbed my condom and gave CBJ and was trying very hard to make it a good one. She would stop every few minutes to ask if it was OK? Either she is a bit new to this or she is just very concerned about customer satisfaction, but either way I approve 100.

I said,"My turn" and flipped her on her back to suck those great tits, and almost immediatly she was pushing my head down toward her pussy. OK with me! Since she offered I took my time, plus she was so small I wanted her very wet before I entered her. When I pulled myself up to start the main event, she slathered lube on my penis and continued to say "very big, very big" but she made no attempt to avoid the inevitable. I entered her very slowly, maybe 10 minutes of just the head in and out to get her comfortable. She was making these little squeal sounds like she was prepared for some pain but it didn't come, apparentley. Then I rolled over on my back with her laying on my chest, grabbed her tiny ass and moved her up and down, side-to-side. Her head was on my chest, her feet didn't quite reach my calves. Awesome!

When we finished she thanked me for going slow, and said "I very like!" about 10 times. Two hours total, as we agreed in the taxi. My original plan was to do her twice, but the one long session did it for me.

I think Thai has one more week in Shanghai before she returns to Hanoi. Go get her, boys! Go slow and it will be worth it.

[Heuristic]

I thought most places were selling them again without a scrip.

In town for the first time in a couple years, I went to a pharmacy where I used to get antibotics without any problem. Although they were eager to sell me viagra and cilais, but when I asked for a Z-pack, they told me: "go to a hospital."

[Shanghai Guide]

I will be having first business trip to Shanghai April 24-May 3 and I would like to visit my first sauna club. Anyone want to join? My treat?

PM me.

Tried to send you a message, but seems you are not allowed to get private messages (you need to be a subscribed member for that).

If you like, we can check out some sauna together, need to do that from time to time, so just for fun, not a commercial issue.

Enjoy Shanghai,

Steven

[Fritobugger]

I thought most places were selling them again without a scrip.

Anyone have a connection for getting antibiotics without a prescription?