East China - Shanghai

[Midwestern]

I read that Rain is in trouble due to recent storm in Shanghai.

Anybody knows the whereabouts of Rain. Or Rain's girls?

Rain got caught by LE. 4-5 of her girls were arrested too. The others are laying low. Some went back to their hometown. I wouldn't contact Rain at all right now. I'm sure her WeChat and email are in the hands of LE.

[MaxyBBJ]

YES Shanghai continues to change. A far cry from the halcyon days of 20 years ago:

I do agree with you! That is the oldest job in the world and no one can stop it. Processes changes, but the delivery of service will be always there. Just have to understand or seek the new way of delivering.

Someone some posts back was mentioning to look into the "old qianhua site" but did not understand what he was referring to. Asked but did not get any answer.

[Midwestern]

Hi Midwestern,

I've been a long visitor, and only now registered, and ready to contribute. Not just because I thought it was about time but also give then current bad weather, I thought it would be better to join forces.

I was wondering what NLO stands for.

Thanks in advance!

Did you register to:

(1) contribute to help others?

(2) help others because of bad weather?

(3) join forces to help others?

(4) know what NLO stands for to help yourself?

Probably (4). Anyway, NLO is nightlife (check out classifieds), the resurrection of SNG. Please put me in my place and prove me wrong about you by becoming a valuable contributing member.

[FredFerb]

I read that Rain is in trouble due to recent storm in Shanghai.

Anybody knows the whereabouts of Rain. Or Rain's girls?

[Frisk]

I have spend the last two weekends in SH and for me it's Game over. I had no responses to Wechat not even from pimps. My favorite go to massage parlor is not only closed but completely gutted. A HJ place I would go to play with 2 or 3 girls at the same time is according to the owner under Police investigation. All they offer now are foot baths. She can't even send any Girls to the Hotel because they are to scared. Hotel is still Girl friendly I had two threesomes (average to bad) and one Girl FB stay over for 4 nights and she even joined me for breakfast. I had to use some old contacts to get action but I was not able to make new ones. Girls move around a lot so next time I might not have any. I can't see how this is connected to June 4th.

[JimmyJones2002]

Hi all,

I'm headed over the pond to Shanghai for the 1st time in maybe 5 years.

If I am reading right M&J are shut down!? Can anyone confirm this is still the case?

I loves it there the last time I was in town. With the weather bad I will post any updates when I arrive there Sunday.

[Bobosan]

With the recent crackdown, I decided to try an indie. Went with Kim from NLO. Her sweet personality and great bod were a pleasant surprise. Her English is also great, so it was kind of weird to be able to have a convo with her, because 99% of the time the girl and I do not speak the same language, LOL.

Hi Midwestern,

I've been a long visitor, and only now registered, and ready to contribute. Not just because I thought it was about time but also give then current bad weather, I thought it would be better to join forces.

I was wondering what NLO stands for.

Thanks in advance!

[Bad Boy Billy]

OMG. How did I ever leave out the Red Rope special at Shanghai Hotel? Probably the highlight of my visits to SH!

[Bad Boy Billy]

YES Shanghai continues to change. A far cry from the halcyon days of 20 years ago:

Of the days when there would be hundreds of eager girls lined up both side of Maoming Lu right beside and opposite original Judy's and Manhattan.

When those original bars were full of Chinese and Filipino girls.

When Hard Rock was going.

When JuLu Lu was full of touchy feely bars.

When Bourbon Street on Hangshan Lu was best gig in town. To the old BBBJ bar.

From when you could feel up model types all night long in Casablanca Bar.

To when Judy's and Manhattan moved to next location on TongRen Lu.

To the early days od Xin Tian Di when Luna and Brown Sugar had wall to wall African dolls.

To the next shift for Judy's and Manhattan to existing locations. In 20 years we have seen many changes. But one things stays the same and that is the abundance of P4P pussy in SH. There always has been and always will be plenty availability. You just need to develop a game plan to secure them or seek elsewhere.

FTR - In last 20 years I have had 8-10 visits to Shanghai annually - 4 trips so far this year - last visit May 5-12 - YES Judy's and Manhattan open where I cut 4 diff Viets from the herd - but also scored 2 African dolls from Vue in Hyatt - Filipino chick from Tinder - Chinese girl from Mint - Russian from Bar Rouge - you should never go hungry.

[MaxyBBJ]

I tended to consider the risk of scam here on the same order as in some big city of the 3rd world, if it wasn't that I received a surprising high number of warnings from local people, who apparently wanted to save me even if we did not have a special relation with them. Maybe I looked good to their eyes, and wanted to save me from local gangsters.
Frankly, this is the first time that such a thing happens to me, and I traveled to many seedy places in Asia, Africa, South America.

I leave in Shanghai from almost five years and I have always heard about these scams, especially in touristic places like Nanjing road walking area or Xintiandi. Men or ladies asking you for "lady massage" are most probably scum. If it is a man I ask him to bring me the lady there to see her, if it is a girl I say her I want to take her to my room. Usually they leave me alone after that. A friend of my get caught and spend a lot of money (cannot remember how much. Something like 6000 yuan or the like). Luckily so far I found a lot of nice people here and until few months ago also a lot of fun. Hope that after this holiday things go back to normality otherwise I will ask to be moved somewhere else.

[Black Page]

I tended to consider the risk of scam here on the same order as in some big city of the 3rd world, if it wasn't that I received a surprising high number of warnings from local people, who apparently wanted to save me even if we did not have a special relation with them. Maybe I looked good to their eyes, and wanted to save me from local gangsters.
Frankly, this is the first time that such a thing happens to me, and I traveled to many seedy places in Asia, Africa, South America.

Warning from Girl 1

The girl that I met at my hotel lobby and that I took to my room (point 4 in report Empirical samples: ladies at hotel) just one day I after we met, and without me asking her anything, wrote me on WeChat some messages that translated by WeChat verbatim say:
"There is a guy who asks you to drink, do not go with them to the bar, you will kill yourself"
"There's a lot of girls with men behind them, and they are fucking foreigners money"
"Did someone ask you to go to a bar?"
"Have you ever been stolen?"
"You go to the bar, they're poisonous. You drink their wine, it'll cost you a fortune"
"The guys told me to work with them, find the guests, take them to their bar, get a drink, share the money, but I cannot do it"

And later about the girls who loiter at the lobby of my 5-star hotel at Pudong (my question was: "do girls at hotel lobby steal?"):
"Some of the girls at the pub, some of the girls were robbing the bar"
"Other girls steal very badly"

I skipped my replies, which I gave her to stimulate her to write more and provide more information, and I did not correct the English as provided by Wechat's Microsoft Translator (poor them that they don't want to use Google services).

Warning from Girl 2

The girl that gave me the massage the last hour before I went to the airport (point 3 in report Empirical samples: massage places near Nanjing Rd.), again without me asking her anything about this, suddenly while she was finishing to massage my body, started to warn me about scammers.

Also she, as the other girl above, warned me to NEVER accept any invitation from street to take a girl or go to a bar. What hit me was her eyes, like if she was literally BEGGING me to not do that. She looked scared and worried for me.

I think this disease must be really spread out and well known, if a girl who just gives me massage with HJ, found by chance in a massage place, feels the need to save me from robbery! Who am I for her, after all, if not the n-th man to massage?

[Black Page]

Absolutely no reason why anybody wanting pussy in SH goes hungry. There is plenty availability via so many means. Nope it aint Pattaya or Angeles or Sing or HK or even Batam. But seek and ye shall find.

You seem the only with that opinion, among many senior posters of this thread.

"Seek and ye shall find"?
Maybe you don't know who you are lecturing. I found girls to fuck even in Dhaka, Bangladesh, and Islamabad, Pakistan, besides a number of places where the average hobbyist would not be happy to travel. Yet, in Shanghai I sought and I did not find. Next time I will seek again, and I will do it better.

You seem to forget a detail. In none of the places you listed the scammer occurrence rate is so high. This limits the number of viable options down to nearly zero, if one is considerate. Sure, "Absolutely no reason why anybody wanting pussy in SH goes hungry": just accept proposals from the street and bars, right?

[Bad Boy Billy]

Plenty options in bars still available. Vue at Hyatt on the Bund, Nest on Beijing Lu, Mint, Bar Rouge, get out and about.

TanTan, Tinder. Hell even WeChat People Nearby. Sometimes you just got to do a bit of work.

Absolutely no reason why anybody wanting pussy in SH goes hungry. There is plenty availability via so many means. Nope it aint Pattaya or Angeles or Sing or HK or even Batam. But seek and ye shall find.

[Midwestern]

Thanks, Blackpage. I wish more people would write field reports. And sorry that you came to Shanghai during its current heavy crackdown.

[Black Page]

There is a small area south of Nanjing Rd where there are a few massage places, clearly oriented to the tourists. Hungry as a beast I tried 3 of them on different nights or days.

1) Place 1.
Girls are dressed with long black pants and white shirt. I chose the most expensive massage from the menu: 498 for 1. 5 h and oil. The place looks somehow "upscale", the room was nice, with shower to refresh me before and after. The girl very nice and even pretty. Massage well done!
After 1 hour, the hint if I wanted something more. Requested 500 more, but I said I wanted only massage, and however I had no money. At the end, some 300 tip yielded the happy ending and some roaming inside the shirt. All this achieved because I promised to call her next day to my hotel. Of course I did not, because she said she does not give FS neither BJ. However, the perspective to milk some more money in the future makes miracles in these girls.

2) Place 2.
Another night, I went to another right next to place 1. This place looked upscale too, and very professional. I noticed a group of Chinese young guys entering it the night before, so I decided to try. Indeed, the place is professional. I got an EXCELLENT Chinese massage, but from a BOY. No way I could find a way to complain, although horrified, once I saw the boy entering the room. I enjoyed the massage, professionally given, and that was all. 298 for 1 hour.

3) Place 3.
My last day, 2 hours before heading to airport, I chose another place next to the previous two. This looked much lower style. The girl was older, with sexy short skirt. She offered HJ for 300 besides the plain 300 of the massage and even gave me her boobs to kiss. SCARED as hell that police could come and see her doing that. The experience was frankly bad, and I did that only because extremely horny after one week of poor life in Shanghai, but the girl was not a bad one.

I will report more about this girl and the other in my hotel from my previous post.