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05-16-10 06:15 #2107I have often mentioned these sorry asses ruining it for everyone else. Hopefully, someone takes a cleaver to them before PSB gets involved and doomed it for everyone else.
Originally Posted by Jon246
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05-16-10 02:17 #2106Perhaps things will lighten up a little, now the censorship is lifted, the search buttons work again, and I assume we can expect some new blood on the forum from within Shanghai! Originally Posted by Bonzo1
fz :-))
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05-15-10 22:04 #2105
Well said
Agree with Bonzo and Asianatic, I am following several mongering forums on Shanghai (in different languages !) and noticed that the ISG Shanghai forum is quite 'agressive' to newbies or 'general' questions. Of course it is annoying when the same questions pop up again and again or very general ones like 'I will be in Shanghai on XXX, staying in XXXhotel, could you give me some advice etc..). Such questions show indeed unpreparedness or laziness and bother most members. When I started to follow this very informative forum (credit where it is due) I did quiet some back reading. Since I lived in Shanghai some 15 years ago, when things looked very different from todays' cosmopolitan atmosphere (!), I was interested how the mongering scene developed over time. Funny enough back then I did not monger, nor had my little spy-eye open for such places of ill repute :-). But now - older, sadder and wiser - is different. So I learned valuable things for this forum and hope to contribute in time as well. I do not wish to offend anyone, but also hope the general tone of conversation could be more brother-like and show respect to others. In the end we all share the same interest.
Thank you!
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05-15-10 21:09 #2104
Qed
I'm a long time SH resident and senior member here on ISG, and I will openly say I agree with you. I'm not at all offended by your post because you are simply saying what is starkly obviously true. Well said sir. Originally Posted by Asianatic
For some constructive help, I recommend you use the search function (which can be very helpful), and also check out AG's forum -- he eliminates wankers there. There is a lot of good info here, just clouded with a ton of totally useless (e.g. "RTFF"), redundant (though this is often without any ill-will but is highly prevalent on the SH forum), and self-serving crap. Note that I'm also saying there's a lot of GOOD info here -- so no need to shun the entire forum.
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05-15-10 20:05 #2103
RTFF or not
Just in case someone still has not understood this. Currently in Shanghai there is something called EXPO. This goes along with a high level of interest to show a good nice picture to the outside world. Our hobby is not included in this view. So we keep a low profile for good reason. And any newbie asking excuse the wording stupid questions could be LE. Originally Posted by Asianatic
And on this I had to go through 20 pages, when I first arrived here I read hundreds of pages and learned a lot. Later I discovered the search function, great for specific questions. And everyone asking, I am in Shanghai first time where are the girls, just does not deserve an answer. I never asked soemthing like that still took a long time until I got answers to some questions.
This coin has a few sides
Peace
FA
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05-15-10 17:08 #2102Well said. Originally Posted by Christopherd
Suggestion to Admin - clean up the thread of endless dumb questions AND endless RTFF posts. One has to scroll quite a long way back to get anything else.
I'm a visitor on this this thread and will do my homework before asking for advice. But I also see it from the other viewpoint. I'm mostly active on the Brasil forum. There, as here, there is so much to absorb. There are people who avoid saying anything to dumb queries. Or there's people who can be a bit rude. Or there's people who will occasionally answer occasional dumb questions when they have time and inclination.
Look at it like this. You are a frequent world traveller, a reasonably experienced monger, and like to seek out new places to visit. How do you decide where to go? One way is to have a look at the activity on a particular forum & thread. Many of them however, are a bit like closed clubs where everyone talks the local lingo in the assumption that every reader knows what they're talking about. So it mostly serves to help people who don't need much help. If we expect people to RTFFs we at least need to make the FFs readable.
Often when I answer a newbie it's cos I know it will take him several hours of searching just to get a feel of a place, and the availability of accessible information written in a manner understandable to a newcomer.
If the visitor has to do that with forums of even half a dozen different countries, simultaneously spending a several hours working out usable flights and other requirements, he will give up on the obscure ones. If the object is to keep novices away of course, that's fine.
I have RTFF (20 pages back) to find some decent information prior to my trip to Shanghai. No valuable info to be found. Only replies like "RTFF" or similar. I noticed when a newbie or any person asked any question, most likely the answer is RTFF. Is'nt the definition of a forum based on sharing information ?
Anyhow, I wont ask my question as I know what the answer will be like : RTFF !
I did'nt experienced this on other sub-forums such as the Indonesian, Thai, Philippine, Peruvian, Kenyan, Brazilian, you name it, ..... just here at the Shanghai forum.
Good that there are additional sources on nightlife in Shanghai.
If no newbies will/can get informed, this forum will be a boring source soon with just a handfull of mongerers that keep repeating the same stuff about the same establishments.
Well, I will travel to the hunting grounds of Shanghai anyway and express my experience broadly here upon my return. Being it positive or negative.
I believe it can be fun to check things out by myself on the spot.
No offense intended, period.
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05-15-10 10:37 #2101
point taken
Noted; Discretion will be exercised !! Thanks FA Originally Posted by FernandoAlonso
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05-15-10 05:20 #2100
No names, please, please, please
Please, no names until expo has ended. You want these places keep open, do not talk about them. Regular members will know what you talk about (see the other recent post), first time visitors will have bad luck for now, but actually that is in their interest because the risk is currently just too high. Use PM for info, do not publish details publicely! Originally Posted by Garam Dharam
FA
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05-14-10 23:38 #2099
Sauna 968 -- Across from "The Office" bar at 968 Pudong Avenue
968 Sauna is located at – well, you guessed it – 968 Pudong Avenue. It's actually quite easy to find as it's immediately in front of the bar called "The Office". I've seen several write ups about people trying to figure out 'the game' with the girls at The Office bar. Well, the real game is thirty feet in front of the door at the venue clearly marked 968 Sauna Club.
Given that road construction has been underway for quite some time, and that Pudong Avenue has recently reopened straight through, there really hasn't been a lot of traffic in this area except from locals or those passing by on foot.
Inside the entrance there are usually a couple of guys who direct you to the staircase which takes you to the second floor. Check in your shoes, head to locker room, change and head to shower area, which is adequate, but nothing like Heting or Baoan. Attendants are marginally helpful, and definitely not overbearing. Following shower you've got to work your back to the drying area for the pajamas.
Resting area is a little tired looking, and could use some remodeling, but it will do. It's kind of similar to the resting area at the Merrylin Hotel across from the Intercontinental.
They use a server system for the girls with the mamasan making the arrangements. She's worked there two years and is kind of cute in her own right, and probably late 20s or early 30s. She's probably a solid six, might even be worth a work out – but not sure if she does session work.
She brings in a girl and its up to you to say yes or no. I haven't had to say no yet. She usually picks sturdy girls with a little meat on them – as opposed to spinners, which might be available, though I've not gone in that direction. Interestingly, I've always had girls with adequate racks.
Head to room where they have a bed, bathroom area with sink, and a shower that's pretty large. Strangely though, there is no toilet, but if you got to [CodeWord140] there's always the shower. (Kind of like a desperation [CodeWord140] at Mango Massage or Tulip Massage in Bangkok.)
They do lock the door, which is helpful. Session runs about 70 minutes, but I've never had a clock watcher at 968. You can go with the menu and have the normal routine with cat bath and all the rest, or you can launch into a game of Tiger (as in get on the floor with that wet Tiger pussy sauna girl and let me throw the meat to you.) Bottom line is that most of the girls here have been kind of fun. No real stunners, no big time fancy décor. In many ways it feels a little like the old B2 World Plaza before B2 became run down.
Following the session you can go to the shower with girl for a soap-down rub-down mutual wash off, which is a nice way to wind down.
Following session, back to the rest area where mamasan usually comes in and checks on service level. Or, alternately, you could head over to the larger more open rest area (where she usually hangs out with her lap top) to report problems, if any encountered.
In summary 968 Sauna is an average neighborhood place that gets the job done. It's in a part of town where there aren't too many other choices. For those people staying at the Eton Hotel or Novotel, the "Tiger Options" fall off quickly if you're only looking at the row of massage parlors behind the Eaton Hotel, where you will be hard pressed to negotiate full service even if you BYOC (Bring Your Own Condom) though it can be done. If you're a Chinese speaker and want to negotiate at one of those massage shops, girls who will go full service generally demand 700RMB, which is not worth it IMHO. (Big time rush and most doors don't lock.)
Instead, perhaps a more interesting option is to walk to The Office bar, hang out a little, and watch the entrance to 968 Sauna to see if anything interesting shows up for work!
Price for a session at 968 is 650RMB.
There you have it a post on the Shanghai board with Expo in full swing.
Let the Shanghai Sauna paranoia factor begin to subside!
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05-14-10 13:16 #2098
G18 on Thursday
Went to G18 yesterday and all was back to normal (it was closed when I went 10 days back). Seems business was brisk as had to wait 15 mins before being taken to the fishbowl. The selection was a bit disappointing and it seems the regulars and the stars have retreated to their home towns (I know at least two who have done so). Picked no 53, 7/10: looks; 6/10: body. Made great use of her wired bra in pumping up her assets. And I picked her as she was the only one smiling.
Inside the room: Fairly mechanical, all the usual with decent skills but no real enthusiasm and playfulness. DFK not allowed, although she enjoyed DATY.
#10 also looked nice, will try her over the weekend and update the forum.
Bill: 790 with the VIP card.
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05-14-10 11:57 #2097
Back in Shanghai
Back in Shanghai and it looks like most places still open fo biz. I spoke to some friends with contacts on the inside that say there will still be more crack downs because there have been a few cases of "lao wai" abusing the girls which then get reported to police and cause trouble for everyone. Stay cautious, and if you know of any of these lao wai, beat their asses cause they are really messing it up for the rest of us.
Jon
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05-14-10 10:47 #2096What is ROFLMAO? I know you and AG is different guy. AG is not in Shanghai maybe, I lost in touch with him many year. Originally Posted by SE Asia Joe
Yes, he very OK, I meet him in Tokyo many year ago I am 18, he tell me Small boy go home! but later he bring me go place. I japanese also not know play in japan.
So new person AG can help me?
Shanghai still funny?
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05-14-10 10:42 #2095So I get not AG? But this someone else is he AG brother or good friend and in Shanghai who will help me? Originally Posted by Weelock
Thank you for reply
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05-14-10 10:40 #2094If you not expert on Shanghai or not godfather then why you post in Shanghai or stop people post in Shanghai? Many people post a lot in Shanghai no information and make reading hard, one page full of posts no information. Originally Posted by SE Asia Joe
Yes, I will pay Jackson for PM.
AG? I know him many year ago when he living in Tokyo. He teach me how to play in Tokyo when I am small only 18. But long time no see him and no in touch with him. I think he never post anymore or not stay in Shanghai anymore? I post in his forum and hope he reply.
Thank you.
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05-14-10 09:56 #2093AG told me he pass his thread to someone else. If someone does reply back it might not be him. Go ahead and post something on his thread. Originally Posted by Levitian
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