East China - Shanghai

[Haoli]

My first post. I'm not much of a player but am having fun with the massage/HE routine in China. This is a great forum with LOTS of great info. Thanks for sharing.

Was at the Hilton a few months ago and, after drinking a little too much, picked up a SW on the way back to the hotel for a massage and maybe a little more. It was about 10 pm. I got undressed and she started giving me a crappy massage and asked if I wanted FS. By that time, I wasn't really that interested any more and didn't want to spend a lot so we ended up going around and around about the price. I ended up just telling her to leave after about an hour in the room.

I got a call at about 2 am from hotel security who told me that the police wanted to talk to me. They came up and asked about the girl in my room and the money I gave her and wanted to know what we did. I told them a little and then summed it up with, "no sex, no sex. " They wanted me to get dressed and go with them or give them my passport to take to the station, but were satisfied with a Xerox copy of my passport. Later, I found condoms in my bathroom and ditched them in case they came back.

The next day they came back with a statement for me to sign (detailing what I said the night before), which I did after the hotel security guy translated it for me, and wanted 500 RMB for the girl who supposedly was arrested and will be in jail for 6 months. The money was to make up for her being in jail and not earning her livelihood, or something like that. I gave them the money and they left.

They never told me what law I broke. The nearest I could come up with after talking to the security guy was that I had a girl in my room after the guest-in-the-room curfew of 10 pm (or 11 pm). They caught her on the way out the front door and watched the hotel security camera video to find me. It doesn't make much sense to me since I had a girl from Tongren Lu in my room at 2 am one time before and she even registered at the front desk with an ID on the way up to the room.

Now, I'm real gun shy about having a girl in my room or going to a massage parlor or sauna. I know there's always a risk of LE showing up, but is there a reason to be paranoid? I want to try some of the places you guys have written about but I'm starting out a little chicken.

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[World Guy Sh]

You can buy them in most of the subway stations for 50RMB deposit. Can be used on bus, taxi, subway, etc. Easy peasy.

Charge them at any subway station or in an Alldays. Just wave it at the person behind the glass or I the store with 100RMB (or whatever you want to put on it) and yep, as BL says, easy peasy, nicely charged up.

Drivers normally ask you if you want to pay cash or card. To avoid Ira's problem, just wave it at him at the beginnign of the journey. No excuses for him then.

They can be used in many places. Some girls will give you a blow job if you waved it past their left breast. A bargain at 30RMB (they are set to local pricing). Just don't try inserting it in the slot. They get grumpy then and will demand extra cash.

WGS

[Waldeck2]

Cost is 20 RMB. That is what I paid. Available in any subway station. Then you add how many RMB you want on the card for transportation itself. Can be used on any subway, bus and taxi. Taxi's prefer cash but they will take the card. You can add RMB to it at any subway station. I don't know know if you can return the card or not. I need mine every couple of days. Beats trying to use cash all the time.

You can buy them in most of the subway stations for 50RMB deposit. Can be used on bus, taxi, subway, etc. Easy peasy.

[Yuri B]

Went to the Wynn KTV on the Bund a couple of days ago. Had really high hopes as it's supposed to be really high class and exclusive, and within a yard that has some military as guards. The crowd was older businessmen but very KTV savvy so it ensured a fun environment, but the women were experienced (mid 20s) Shanghai girls that know what they're doing, a bit older than the typical ones in Guangdong, not particularly better than BBS girls, and really damn expensive. I guess the place is worth going to if you're starving for some KTV action, or have never fucked a Shanghai girl, but I think there's much value for money even in this expensive mongering city.

I wonder what is the best city in China I can go/fly for the best mongering experience for an English speaking guy who likes GFE and does not require real sophisticated service? I am trying to find an alternative to Thailand so I do not have to leave the country as I will have only a few days next week. I would try nude KTV, but it seems too expensive for one poor me.

You may PM me if you have advice and ideas. It will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Y

[Eu Expat]

About the transportation card. I often have to start shouting "Ka! Ka! " (my poor Chinese for 'card') before the driver stops, otherwise they have been known to throw the meter and say 'Sorry, only cash now. ' (or the Chinese equivalent, I should say.)

Has this happened to anyone? Is the card only legal taxi tender before a certain point in the flip of a switch, or (as I suspect) just a sneaky way to pocket some RMB?

It has not happened to me yet. But usually tell the driver along the way that I will be using the card (plus I'm still a very young looking guy, so they think I may be a student or someone like that and expect I will be using it). You can tell the driver in advance "wo you jiao tong ka" or "wo yao yong jiao tong ka" (just basic Chinese, no fancy grammar) to let him know.

To answer the card purchase question the other guy had. The easiest thing would be to go to a subway station, go to the manned ticket office, hand over a 100RMB bill and say "wo yao jiao tong ka" (again, I kept it very simple so anyone can say that). They seem to have a stack of prepaid cards for 100RMB (deposit included), so the whole purchase is very fast. To top up an existing card or check the credit, just use the big blue machine next to ticket machines in subway, it can be switched to English.

[Da Dicknotist]

Went to the Wynn KTV on the Bund a couple of days ago. Had really high hopes as it's supposed to be really high class and exclusive, and within a yard that has some military as guards. The crowd was older businessmen but very KTV savvy so it ensured a fun environment, but the women were experienced (mid 20s) Shanghai girls that know what they're doing, a bit older than the typical ones in Guangdong, not particularly better than BBS girls, and really damn expensive. I guess the place is worth going to if you're starving for some KTV action, or have never fucked a Shanghai girl, but I think there's much value for money even in this expensive mongering city.

[FernandoAlonso]

So apparently my post was not helpful last time, let me try again to see if this one would be any good.

Went to the joint here on Friday 1AM after reading an old post from long time ago. This sauna/bath place is located in a hotel tucked away in the middle of a long strip of road. Pretty hard to find at night.

Went in, service was alright and was served immediately to the shower room. After taking shower, I was lead to a room and a line of very limited girls showed up. There were only 6 to choose from but all were quite mediocre (all around 5-6) I asked for more but was told those are the only ones still working. Chose number 405 because she had a large rack and a sweet smile. She led me up to a room upstairs and we did our business. She began the routine with the water sucking all around my back and sliding her tits on me. She progressed to a BJ and fucked her. She was alright, looked like she worked hard for me but she just wasn't that good. Her body wasn't as slim as I had imagined.

Anyway, pretty disappointing rookie experience. Total damage was 680, I don't think I'll go there again. Will try G18 this weekend.

Absolutely! and my sincere apologies, somehow I answered the wrong post by someone just asking are the saunas open and normal, when all the psots said they are closed.

So sorry for that and keep posting!

FA

[Blacklisted]

Can someone elaborate a bit more on the card?

How does it work, where can it be purchased?

I assume it is pre-paid, how is it "cashed" by the taxi driver?

Thanks in advance

(I go to SH once/twice a year, so not being resident I ask the "experts")

You can buy them in most of the subway stations for 50RMB deposit. Can be used on bus, taxi, subway, etc. Easy peasy.

[BionicMan]

Can someone elaborate a bit more on the card?

How does it work, where can it be purchased?

I assume it is pre-paid, how is it "cashed" by the taxi driver?

Thanks in advance

(I go to SH once/twice a year, so not being resident I ask the "experts")

[Ira Johnson]

It's also useful to get a jiaotong card, because that takes the cash payment out of the process.

About the transportation card - I often have to start shouting "Ka! Ka!" (my poor Chinese for 'card') before the driver stops, otherwise they have been known to throw the meter and say 'Sorry, only cash now.' (or the Chinese equivalent, I should say.)

Has this happened to anyone? Is the card only legal taxi tender before a certain point in the flip of a switch, or (as I suspect) just a sneaky way to pocket some RMB?

[Ru1992]

Just popped into G18 yesterday afternoon. Lineup was ok but not great. None of the previous mentioned girls. So I took number 53 and then 90 joined for the cleanup routine. I decided to take both which turned out to be a mistake. 53 was much more into it than 90.

90 was pretty timid (suprised considering she's been around for 8 years) and I ended up just focusing more on 53. 53 was a bit more keen on providing a good experience even though her acting skills are a bit on the poor side. I did appreciate the effort. She also provided me with some interesting conversation in between pops.

Where is the Shanghai hotpot restaurant? Is it a little further south from G18?

Gentlemen,

Yes G18 is open again. It was definately shut earlier on this week but a few days ago the doors opened. Tonight the dude at the door quoted me 880. I'm on a budget so am not yet able to partake.

Another option is further on down the road, in the same building as the Shanghai No 1 Hotpot restaurant. Walk down the covered alley (yeah it was a bit scary but there are huge signs in Chinese and Japanese advertising a Sauna), and get into the elevator. A gentleman confirmed my intentions and led me to the internet cafe/game centre where there is a special entrance to the sauna. Was quoted 650 for full service and 750 for VIP service (a nicer room it seems).

Will write a report when I give either of them a go.

[Eu Expat]

Sorry to hear about your problems. Shanghai taxi drivers, even the legitimate ones, are among the worse I have ever experienced. Half the time, they do not know to drive to your destination, as they are new to town. Regarding Longyang Station, there is a monitored queue for taxis next to the parking lot. When you pass the turnstile, exit to the left and look for signs for taxis. There will be an escalator down to the street level. There always is an attendant there to monitor the activity. After dozens of trips, I have never been ripped off by any of the taxis there. Avoid the ones trying to pick you up curbside.

Actually it's not that bad. I've been using taxi from & to random destinations pretty much every day in the 18 months I've been living in Shanghai so far. Never had a pricing problem and only like 5 times the driver did not know where to go. Just ignore the touts & that's it. It's also useful to get a jiaotong card, because that takes the cash payment out of the process.

(but maybe I am a bit biased because I come from Eastern Europe where the taxi drivers are a real nightmare)

[Koala Bare]

Gentlemen,

Yes G18 is open again. It was definately shut earlier on this week but a few days ago the doors opened. Tonight the dude at the door quoted me 880. I'm on a budget so am not yet able to partake.

Another option is further on down the road, in the same building as the Shanghai No 1 Hotpot restaurant. Walk down the covered alley (yeah it was a bit scary but there are huge signs in Chinese and Japanese advertising a Sauna), and get into the elevator. A gentleman confirmed my intentions and led me to the internet cafe/game centre where there is a special entrance to the sauna. Was quoted 650 for full service and 750 for VIP service (a nicer room it seems).

Will write a report when I give either of them a go.

[Shiva Lee]

JingDing is also open again.

Shiva

[Waldeck2]

Open this afternoon. Great line up. Great service.