East China - Shanghai

**Pushkin13** · 10-24-09 09:51

Originally Posted by Jas V

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Btw, I'm newbie here and not familiar with the acronyms. Can someone please explain what RTFF, ISG, FTFF, and LE mean? Is there a thread in this forum that I can learn about all the acronyms?

Tks again!

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Enjoy

P13 (my personal little abbreviation, because everyone knows that Pushkin is a famous Russian writer, and I don't need to write his name every time!)

**Jas V** · 10-24-09 07:40

Originally Posted by Pushkin13

You have been stung.

First, RTFF and then second, FTFF again, and third ... don't go with an unknown to an unknown bar.

Hopefully, for you, a cheap lesson.

If your Chinese language is up to it, you can report this to LE.

Just my opinion and advice.

P13

Originally Posted by Bnlee2

Bro

You really need to RTFF. Btw, it is way cheaper to pay ISG subscription fee. One shot of whiskey would pay for almost three ISG subscription. You newbie make me ROFL. How hard is it to RTFF. No place in America would dare to charge you 53 dollars for a shot of whiskey.

Tks bros for the info. I suspected that I was ripped off right after I looked at the bill. And yes, a shot of whiskey in the states only costs around 7-12 bucks. It was my first time ever in China and I didn't know about this community until I already left that place (wish I had known)

Btw, I'm newbie here and not familiar with the acronyms. Can someone please explain what RTFF, ISG, FTFF, and LE mean? Is there a thread in this forum that I can learn about all the acronyms?

Tks again!

**World Guy Sh** · 10-24-09 03:29

Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. Been causing all KINDS of trouble these last weeks. Agree, for some it is a bit of a "No-no" but for the current GF it is a complete "NO!" But then she relented. Now she is convinced she is super ill and being a *?!£ing nightmare with it. She does have a mild bout of cystitis though. But doctors here do not seem to know how to clear it up. It was never an issue with my western GF(s). Practically gagging for it (esp. as hormone levels rise during a period apparantly). Nah, rephrase that, she was gagging for it.

I guess that is another reason saunas are so popular here. Somewhere to go during the week (make that 10 days for current example) off.

WGS

Originally Posted by Dragon D

Ya. Most Chinese women do think that you can get a variety of diseases from having sex during their period. Most of my gfs have learned to live with it though over time. They think mainly its dirty too. Showed them the medical website. Even google translated it for one girl who didn't know English. Then they typed it in Chinese into Chinese google and the Chinese medical websites say its a no no. Sigh. So there comes the Chinese girls body is different from the lao wai girls body. So many excuses in this country for everything. But we still love it. Its what makes for good jokes with the boys over a couple half yards of beer.

**Brotherrabitt** · 10-23-09 10:00

With again thanks to Beijing Fox for his helpful suggestions in Pudong, I never had the chance to visit them this week, too many meetings and a very wrong "travel shock" induced biorythm.

I was staying in the Green Garden Hotel on Weifang Road, a 4 star USD 70/night place, clean, free internet, small but ok gym, and a nice nasi goreng for RMB 58.

Just around the corner from the hotel there are some 4-5 massage places next to eachother and I went for one on the last night, RMB 200 for the massage, 200 RMB tip for the extra's, you know the routine, nothing special, but alleviated some pressure on balls

.

Next time, I will go back to Paulaner or the other places mentioned by BF, during my last visit some months ago I paid RMB 1000 for an all nighter, much better value for money than the massage of course, ah well, sometimes plans do not work out as they should.

Thanks again for the info, next time I might actually have something to report

.

Ciao boys.

BR

**Waldeck2** · 10-23-09 03:32

Last week the price was 680 in the afternoon. I will check it out.

Originally Posted by Blackjai

I just went exploring this afternoon and came across this sauna right opposite of the Four Seasons Hotel in Pudong, I believe the hotel which the sauna was actually in was called Merilyn Hotel. The sauna itself was on the 3rd floor, pretty standard stuff, after shower get led into a room with tv and some sofas, then was asked if you want to get a massage straight away, then you are shown around 8-9 girls (according to my girl there are 30+ girls there), of the girls that I saw, they were around score 6-7s, I picked the one with the biggest tits because I just love them, once you are in the room, the girl will ask you if you are going to stay the full 70 mins, please say yes or else the girl will hurry you thru the process as mine did, but I didn't mind because I didn't really have much time anyway.

Price was $550 before 8pm, enjoy.

**BionicMan** · 10-22-09 22:44

Originally Posted by Blackjai

I just went exploring this afternoon and came across this sauna right opposite of the Four Seasons Hotel in Pudong, I believe the hotel which the sauna was actually in was called Merilyn Hotel.
Price was $550 before 8pm, enjoy.

Do you mean the Intercontinental Hotel in Pudong?

**Blackjai** · 10-22-09 13:13

I just went exploring this afternoon and came across this sauna right opposite of the Four Seasons Hotel in Pudong, I believe the hotel which the sauna was actually in was called Merilyn Hotel. The sauna itself was on the 3rd floor, pretty standard stuff, after shower get led into a room with tv and some sofas, then was asked if you want to get a massage straight away, then you are shown around 8-9 girls (according to my girl there are 30+ girls there), of the girls that I saw, they were around score 6-7s, I picked the one with the biggest tits because I just love them, once you are in the room, the girl will ask you if you are going to stay the full 70 mins, please say yes or else the girl will hurry you thru the process as mine did, but I didn't mind because I didn't really have much time anyway.

Price was $550 before 8pm, enjoy.

**Blackjai** · 10-22-09 10:28

Hi,

I just arrived back in Shanghai, not staying for long and I really miss places like the Shanghai Hotel.

Does anyone know if they are up and running again?

Thanks

**John Citizen** · 10-21-09 11:35

There's a spa on the corner of youlin rd and pudong avenue l think.

Next to a hotel. you can drive there at night and find out.

**Fritobugger** · 10-21-09 06:26

With the closing of the Jinqiao Hotel my options for a pre-work poke in the whiskers are gone unless one of you folks know of some other 24 hour options in the Pudong area.

Any suggestions for a sauna or spa that provides full service between 6am and 8am in the Pudong area? It makes the work day a whole lot better.

Thanks,

Frito

**Dragon D** · 10-21-09 02:48

Ya. Most Chinese women do think that you can get a variety of diseases from having sex during their period. Most of my gfs have learned to live with it though over time. They think mainly its dirty too. Showed them the medical website. Even google translated it for one girl who didn't know English. Then they typed it in Chinese into Chinese google and the Chinese medical websites say its a no no. Sigh. So there comes the Chinese girls body is different from the lao wai girls body. So many excuses in this country for everything. But we still love it. Its what makes for good jokes with the boys over a couple half yards of beer.

**Loveasiangirls** · 10-20-09 19:11

Originally Posted by Mock A Bee

Very often, if a sauna girl is off duty, it is because she is on the rag.

Thus far, I have not found a girl in China who will let you do her while she is on the rag. I have suggested that it is not a big deal at all if we have sex in the shower, but no such luck yet. Thus far they all absolutely refuse!

I have met sauna girls who will have lunch or dinner with you, go shopping, etc. as if you were bf/gf... but won't let you have sex with them because they are usually on the rag.

MAB

There is a general thinking among Chinese girls that sex during the period is dangerous. Their body would be more vulnerable and something bad can happen. Even the most educated ones have told me this story. Even after I directed them to medical website that confirms the contrary, they are still worried. I think it comes from their mothers. Just one more excuse not to have sex with the husband. However if they are nice enough they will offer greek or BJ.

**World Guy Sh** · 10-20-09 13:30

Got the itch. Fell off the wagon. You decide.

209 Wulumuqi Lu, 5/f

Saturday, 5pm or thereabouts. Lots of girls in the fishbowl. Some not bad lookers. Took 89. Knew the routine but did it with some style and panache.

90mins, 790RMB

Currently offering a 2nd girl for free for 10 minutes in the shower. Nice try at an upsell but number 9.. If they are going to send in a second make sure she is top notch. She was booted out after the 10 minutes.

WGS

**Temujin87** · 10-20-09 10:51

Originally Posted by Mock A Bee

Very often, if a sauna girl is off duty, it is because she is on the rag.

Thus far, I have not found a girl in China who will let you do her while she is on the rag. I have suggested that it is not a big deal at all if we have sex in the shower, but no such luck yet. Thus far they all absolutely refuse!

I have met sauna girls who will have lunch or dinner with you, go shopping, etc. as if you were bf/gf... but won't let you have sex with them because they are usually on the rag.

MAB

Mab, yes, they take days off for the rag obviously. That's not always the case. The sauna system works like this: the girl takes home a portion of the money you paid to the sauna. Every time she takes a day off, she loses the income from the day AND she pays a 300-500rmb penalty on top. After you understand the economics of things it's a lot easier to put things in perspective.

The girl was actually mentioned on ISG (that's how I knew who to pick). She would just take days off because she was so popular and made tons of money regardless.

**Mock A Bee** · 10-20-09 08:26

Originally Posted by Temujin87

Sauna girls take 5-7 days off in a month for various reasons. I got one to come over for free after seeing her twice at the sauna. I paid for the dinner and in the morning I give her a very small taxi fee, generally 200-300rmb. Don't expect a sauna service though, the experience is much more GFE. Sauna girls need love too.

Very often, if a sauna girl is off duty, it is because she is on the rag.

Thus far, I have not found a girl in China who will let you do her while she is on the rag. I have suggested that it is not a big deal at all if we have sex in the shower, but no such luck yet. Thus far they all absolutely refuse!

I have met sauna girls who will have lunch or dinner with you, go shopping, etc. as if you were bf/gf... but won't let you have sex with them because they are usually on the rag.

MAB

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