East China - Shanghai

[Bier 8]

It seems like the management has changed.

Was there tonight. Had No 30. She gave a first class massage and HJ was ok. I believe she wanted to indicate that I could fuck her for a surcharge, but I was not up to that and did not ask what exactly for how much. Surprisingly she refused a tip after the massage. Then, they didn't offer the free foot massage any more and also refused to give me Fapiao. But, for RMB228 it is still a good bargain.

Was there yesterday, nothing seems changed to me. Good service as always, she accepted (small) tip and I was offered foot massage. They are constructing in the building but thats all I could notice as difference

[Project Seven]

Went to try and sign up for a subscription.

And I just realized my credit card expired this month (Yes, I don't use it that often). Now I have to wait until a new one arrives

Regardless- I'm curious if there are better times to go to some of parlours or BBSes. I imagine during the evening on any day might be limit your choices some (or severely, if on the weekend), as that's how things usually go when people are free. With that said, what might be the best choice for me and my friend tonight then?

I've read something about ZY BBS being a good introductory for beginners, anyone care to expand? I promise I'll come back with a review- even if it's been done before.

[Ed Heres]

Thanks for the several suggestions that people have given me regarding my earlier post on this matter. I need to make a few things clear;

1. I have been around a while and have never contemplated this situation before but she really does seem genuine.

2. If she isn't then I can accept this....my big head is thinking ! I haven't spent lots of money really and she can't speak any English so it is "free" Chinese with some nice perks thrown in! Especially her cooking and good morning smile.

3. If she does try to mess with me then I will decide what I will do as far as payback, although I don't really want to do this I will do what is necessary to seek retribution.

4. The main problem seems to be her complete lack of experience and lack of awareness of life and if she is faking this then she truly deserves an Oscar for her consistently good performance.

So time will tell and in the meantime I am able to take well meaning criticisms from other people and try to be objective about the future.

Not all girls are the same and I am more optimistic than many other people here it seems.

The least I can do is keep you guys posted about the outcome....so lessons can be learned either way.

I've been around a bit too and have been exposed to lots of young and nubile Chinese girls in their late teens and early twenties, mostly college students. Apart from that, I've had my share of young working girls too. And the age difference in my case is huge, but it seems to matter not a twit with these young people.

In my experience, young Chinese girls are naive as hell, emotionally four or five years younger than their western counterparts of the same age, and live in a netherworld of tradition and western influence that pressures them enormously and makes them almost schizophrenic. They are steeped in Chinese stories of heartbreak and tragedy and live very active fantasy lives.- almost like western girls in Catholic schools.

These boards often overlook that working girls.- whatever their motives, backgrond or age.- are people too. I've met more than a few who get into the business because it's the only job they can find or some boyfriend had them and left them sans cherry in an environment where virginity is still very highly prized for a respected marriage.

So, it's not surprising that you've found an innocent one.- albeit in a lousy place. The hard part is to decide who you want to be for the girl: lover, savior, father figure, grandfather figure, counselor or halfway house. But that's true in any age defying relationship.

Kind is an all-to-common word in China with a more powerful meaning than in the west. Just be kind to this kid.- give her a good memory and some good experiences whatever happens and don't let these boards corrupt your soul or hers.

[SE Asia Joe]

Thanks for the several suggestions that people have given me regarding my earlier post on this matter. I need to make a few things clear;

1. I have been around a while and have never contemplated this situation before but she really does seem genuine.

2. If she isn't then I can accept this....my big head is thinking ! I haven't spent lots of money really and she can't speak any English so it is "free" Chinese with some nice perks thrown in! Especially her cooking and good morning smile.

3. If she does try to mess with me then I will decide what I will do as far as payback, although I don't really want to do this I will do what is necessary to seek retribution.

4. The main problem seems to be her complete lack of experience and lack of awareness of life and if she is faking this then she truly deserves an Oscar for her consistently good performance.

So time will tell and in the meantime I am able to take well meaning criticisms from other people and try to be objective about the future.

Not all girls are the same and I am more optimistic than many other people here it seems.

The least I can do is keep you guys posted about the outcome....so lessons can be learned either way.

W.O.W., for a guy that's been around its quite amazing to me (NO offense meant or intended - please!) that your reaction to this gal is so "newbie" - so to call.

Lke I said, no offense meant or intended - but surely for a guy that's been around, you would have heard plenty about - and probably experienced yourself - very similar stories: The older, wealthier guy and the "quite" innocent waif who's got no other choice but to sell her body. When did such stories ever end up "good?" Yeah, mebbe for a while - but after 1, 2 or even 5 years??? You gotta be kidding!

My advise still stands - enjoy IT for what it's worth - but don't commit too damn much emotion into it. Money, time, advise - sprinkle liberally - but your "heart" - you're too damn old to part with too much of it!

And why did I say this? Look at your statement: "........If she does try to mess with me then I will decide what I will do as far as payback, although I don't really want to do this I will do what is necessary to seek retribution..........." THAT..... is really BAD shit!! These are the words of one who's truly "smitten!" Do remember that the line between Love and Hate (like other human "feelings" like Pain and Pleasure (S&M?), Hope and Despair, Joy and heartbreak etc etc) is SO FINE. You my friend - are really screwed!! Not gonna take much for you to jump the fine line from true love to true hate and all its destructive forces.

YOu've gotta RIGHT NOW rectify your situation and start enjoying your relationship ON YOUR TERMS as per my previous post. You enjoy the relationship and UNDERSTAND that you are getting as much from the relationship as she's getting from it - and you will know that retribution, payback etc is NOT an option. I mean Christ - lighten up a bit.... no lighten up a LOT my friend - this relationship with her cannot and will not be the "one and for all times" love of your life (consider the circumstances!!) So just enjoy it for what its worth. And what is she doing to you that's SOOOOO bad that you're already thinking retribution etc???

Just my very humble opinion - and like I repeat for the 3rd time (showing my age here!!) - I am NOT trying to cause offense.

SEAJ

[Project Seven]

Hi everyone!

I've lurked here for a while now, but taking some advice, finally decided to register and get posting. A short blurb (but not too much! ) about myself first.

I'm young and I don't work. I'm completely new to paying for service (though I certainly would like to give it a shot- no pun intended), and I enjoy working the social scene for freebies. I've been in Shanghai since Aug 2008 and I'm leaving in July 2009. That gives me about 2 1/2 months left to make this last little while an absolute blast.

I don't want to contribute nothing, so I'll share what little experience I do have hitting the clubs for freebies.

I'm sure most of you hit up a lot of the clubs already, so I'll just limit myself to my most recent experience: SoHo.

SoHo opened very recently and got rather poor reviews from my friends. Regardless, I decided to give it a shot and try it out with another group of friends. The music is pretty decent; they remix a lot of the older songs from the 90s. Atmosphere is alright- expect a LOT of white plastic wall decor. For those who know the game- there's enough lighting to read pupils, not always, but often enough. Alcohol per glass is a little pricey, but the bottles are cheaper than most of the other places (we picked up Jose Cuervos Gold for 480ish, I think). One of my friends works there and he kept loading us up with free drink vouchers all night, so we didn't need to get the bottle, but I made the call for it anyways. No cover on the night we went (Saturday).

The average girl there is probably a 6-7, expect to find a number of Western girls in there too. For those of us rolling in dough, there are LOTS of lonely local females sitting at the tables. For everyone else, lots of small groups (1-2 mostly) of both locals and foreigners at the bar. I personally opted for this stunning HB8 Colombian. She and her friend joined us. We shared drinks, I danced a little with them. Closed with a kiss and number- I went to Muse2, she stayed at SoHo. Around 4AM she gives me a call to get my apartment address and cabs over.

I'd certainly like to give the "pay scene" a try though, got a list together and everything. Any of you mongers mind taking on an apprentice? My friend is visiting from Canada, so I'd love to take him some place, on recommendation. If any of you have some free time and wouldn't mind bringing along a newbie, send me a message. In the meantime, I'll continue to RTFF

And yes, it is VERY true what they say about Colombian girls.

P7

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[Belicoso]

Was in Shanghai Thu night/Fri and Sunday night last week. My luck had run out as I just got to sample some of Shangai's delights one night.

Thu night. Tired from flying over half the way across the world and wanted to go some where local (was staying in Pudong) and decided Sacrosa was it. Took a cab to Dongchang Road station and walked down a couple of blocks and found it easy enough. Breezed through the shower, declined the scrub down offered by the boys and after a minute wait in the "waiting room", was led to a line up of around 10 girls. I looked for any one of the recommended girls (#105, #511, #562, #503, #570, #590) but no luck there. So, picked #115 as she was the most engaging with direct eye contact and smiles. She's short, got a tight body with small tits. Good Service with some GFE (would have been really good if I could speak a little Mandarin as she really tried to communicate). BBJ, AR, Doggie, Mish led to 2 pops. The first was CIM (spat into a napkin). She also gave a good deep massage between the rounds. Recommended overall.

Fri afternoon. Having read out Heiting Elite, I had to try it. Got there at 2:30 PM to be told by Bob the Manger that they have some issues with the showers and they are closed till 5 or 6 PM. Suggested that I hang out for a few hours watching TV but I declined, got his card and decided to come back on Sunday (was heading to a different city that evening for 2 nights).

Sun night. Got back to Shanghai at 11PM and was ready for some action! Called Bob first and heard that they were closed for 2 or 3 days. He would not give any explanation, apologized and asked me to call him again in a few days and not to show up before calling. Disappointed, I took a cab to Shanghai Hotel (should have called first) and was told that there "was some police problem" that night and that there was no service at all. Was also warned by the lady at the front desk that most other places were closed too. I decided not to try any other spots, cursed my luck (what are the chances of getting deprived of some action 2 different days there? ) and called in a night. Curious if others had any issues last Sunday (Apr 12th) night.

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[Gao Xing]

It seems like the management has changed.

Was there tonight. Had No 30. She gave a first class massage and HJ was ok. I believe she wanted to indicate that I could fuck her for a surcharge, but I was not up to that and did not ask what exactly for how much. Surprisingly she refused a tip after the massage. Then, they didn't offer the free foot massage any more and also refused to give me Fapiao. But, for RMB228 it is still a good bargain.

Interesting. I was there a week ago on a Friday. Had to wait a while for a girl. The massage was okay. Nowhere near as good as No. 25 that I had a few weeks ago. That girl (#25) did the blow-in-your-ear-and-show-you-her-crotchless-panties deal. But last week (I don't remember the number), no tip was accepted, and the foot massage was offered at the end. I'll check it out this weekend and see if it's the same as Beijing Fox reported.

[Bowline]

Be careful. What is the age difference? My gut tells me you are being played. She doesn't like to kiss you, but had to get a abortion because of a boyfriend?

If you have ask you already know the answer. Usually all you have to do is to define the question, when you do you have the answer. This is imho.

[Bad Boy Billy]

I did not, i was hoping for some fishbowl or anything, but nothing like it. Was just lead into the room and nothing to choose, maybe bcs it was very busy? Or are there two different places within Shanghai Hotel?

Schaf I was not doubting your reports - fantastic that you have taken the time to write such detailed reports - they are excellent.

It's just that I have been to sauna at Shanghai Hotel a dozen times - mostly between 4pm and 8pm - ALWAYS I have been led to the room on the corner with a selection between 6 to maybe 20 girls - never straight to a room with a single girl waiting.

But lets not forget - this is CHINA - the land of complication and contradiction.

[Beijing Fox]

It seems like the management has changed.

Was there tonight. Had No 30. She gave a first class massage and HJ was ok. I believe she wanted to indicate that I could fuck her for a surcharge, but I was not up to that and did not ask what exactly for how much. Surprisingly she refused a tip after the massage. Then, they didn't offer the free foot massage any more and also refused to give me Fapiao. But, for RMB228 it is still a good bargain.

[El Frances]

Last month I went two times to JJ Sauna. Nothing has been reported about it since some time, so here is an update.
Recall : JJ is 209 wulumuqui road next to a bank, big SPA sign. THIS IS THE PART OF THE ROAD WHICH IS NORTH OF YAN AN ROAD, NOT SOUTH! (Same side as Tongren Lu). Taxi drivers often don't know this part of the road, they know only the South part where SH is located. Show them on a map or have someone write it in Chinese. The street is one-way from North to South.

Bad news : the price is now 880 for 90 mn. But you can buy a membership card for 100 RMB, which gives you a 90 RMB discount, so it goes down to 790.
Good News : the selection seems to be better. I came around 10 pm and had the choice between a dozen of girls each time. Competition seems to be taugh, I saw one girl nearly crying because she has not been chosen. She probably had no customer this day. Service was excellent each time: soapy, licking, rimming, BBJ, FJ and the girl's attitude was like in a porn movie. They reminded me I could still keep a hard-on for 90 mn!

[Schaf29]

Hi All,

Before I start with day two a practical tip, I am using Xerobank to access ISG here in Shanghai, very helpful, see detailed info on the Proxyserver thread.

After waking up I again felt this pain in my back and some other parts and I called the Donghu Hotel inhouse massage service again. This time another lady showed up, early twenties and really beautiful. She gave me one of the best massages in years, but was absolutely resiting my attempts to give an extra service. So, still beeing horny I called the number of the girl from the previous night, but she did not have time, but offered me a friend of hers.

Half an hour later a stunning beauty came in, kissed me, went down on her knees, put away my bathrobe and started deepthroating me. Wonderful.

On the bed she continued and I finalised over her face. 500RMB and off she was. I asked the girl if I can give away her number and she said yes, but only to "friends". I will call those of you friends who have a serious proof of reports to avoid any possible problems for the girl. PM me if you want the number, sorry for the restriction.

Then I went shopping at the Feng Xiang Clothing and gift market and saw a large sign "Massage 6F" outside the building and decided that shopping causes pain in the back and can only be released by a good massage.

On the 6th floor I was greeted by a young man who asked me if I wanted special massage. Sure I said and was guided to a nice and comfortable room with a locker and a fresh pijama. The room was only for me.

I changed and was guided to the shower, asked what I wanted to drink and after the shower my coke was in the room and I sat down and watched TV for some minutes. It knocked at the door and a parade of three girls came in, all dressed in something that looked like a school uniform, just a bit too small for all of them. All 3 were pretty, all good bodies and I have chosen the one with the nicest smile. I would rank her an 8. Before I have seen her naked, after I would say a 9, bcs her big tits and small ass were phantastic.

She guided me to another room, all very clean and spacious. The room had a large bed and a shower, but nothing for a soapy session, but on the ceiling the facilities for redrobe.

She caressed me immediately when the door was locked, danced a bit in front of the mirrors that were all over, lifted her skirt and showed me her pussy, touched my cock and kissed my nipples.

Then she said something in Chinese and left? What was that? I thought.

A minute later she came in, dressed in something that looked like a too large T-Shirt. Strange. On the bed she started giving me a BBBJ, quality was ok, but nothing to write home about. She never fully undressed, but lifted the shirt and I could touch her everywhere. Over all the time she tried to communicate, but her english was non existent, at least that was what I thought.

I could not figure out what she wanted to tell me by "Megga la". I understand some phrases in quite many languages, but had no clue about this. Until I got it by her hand language. "Megga la" means in her interpretation of english "Make Love"! Which I did not want, I just wanted her to continue with the BJ, which she did until I came over her, so no CIM, but a nice finish.

This was followed by a quite uninspiring back massage, but she tried hard.

Then I learned her second phrase in english "Kalle mi", which means "Call me", and she tried to write down her number on one of the mirrors.

Yesyes, I said and then was guided back to my locker room, showered, dressed and when I was about to leave she was running towards me and gave me a piece of paper with her phone number. What the hell shall I do with this? Having a phone conversation consisting of "Megga la" and "Kalle mi"? I will never fully understand the girls anyways.

After a good hour I was back on the street. Would I go back? Yes, sure, the quality of the girls was nice, facilities very clean and nice, atmosphere very friendly. Damage 600RMB.

Address from the business card "The Best Spacial Service", between Fengyang Road and Nanjing road in the building of the Shopping complexe, 6Floor.

Opening hours between 1pm and 2am. Best to find the shopping center as I do not have a number, but the market like center seems to be very famous and is in every city guide.

Today I want to try a soapy, guess 999 is the best option? !

Have fun,

Schaf

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[Schaf29]

Hi All,

Before I start with day two a practical tip, I am using Xerobank to access ISG here in Shanghai, very helpful, see detailed info on the Proxyserver thread.

After waking up I again felt this pain in my back and some other parts and I called the Donghu Hotel inhouse massage service again. This time another lady showed up, early twenties and really beautiful. She gave me one of the best massages in years, but was absolutely resiting my attempts to give an extra service. So, still beeing horny I called the number of the girl from the previous night, but she did not have time, but offered me a friend of hers.

Half an hour later a stunning beauty came in, kissed me, went down on her knees, put away my bathrobe and started deepthroating me. Wonderful.

On the bed she continued and I finalised over her face. 500RMB and off she was. I asked the girl if I can give away her number and she said yes, but only to "friends". I will call those of you friends who have a serious proof of reports to avoid any possible problems for the girl. PM me if you want the number, sorry for the restriction.

Then I went shopping at the Feng Xiang Clothing and gift market and saw a large sign "Massage 6F" outside the building and decided that shopping causes pain in the back and can only be released by a good massage.

On the 6th floor I was greeted by a young man who asked me if I wanted special massage. Sure I said and was guided to a nice and comfortable room with a locker and a fresh pijama. The room was only for me.

I changed and was guided to the shower, asked what I wanted to drink and after the shower my coke was in the room and I sat down and watched TV for some minutes. It knocked at the door and a parade of three girls came in, all dressed in something that looked like a school uniform, just a bit too small for all of them. All 3 were pretty, all good bodies and I have chosen the one with the nicest smile. I would rank her an 8. Before I have seen her naked, after I would say a 9, bcs her big tits and small ass were phantastic.

She guided me to another room, all very clean and spacious. The room had a large bed and a shower, but nothing for a soapy session, but on the ceiling the facilities for redrobe.

She caressed me immediately when the door was locked, danced a bit in front of the mirrors that were all over, lifted her skirt and showed me her pussy, touched my cock and kissed my nipples.

Then she said something in Chinese and left? What was that? I thought.

A minute later she came in, dressed in something that looked like a too large T-Shirt. Strange. On the bed she started giving me a BBBJ, quality was ok, but nothing to write home about. She never fully undressed, but lifted the shirt and I could touch her everywhere. Over all the time she tried to communicate, but her english was non existent, at least that was what I thought.

I could not figure out what she wanted to tell me by "Megga la". I understand some phrases in quite many languages, but had no clue about this. Until I got it by her hand language. "Megga la" means in her interpretation of english "Make Love"! Which I did not want, I just wanted her to continue with the BJ, which she did until I came over her, so no CIM, but a nice finish.

This was followed by a quite uninspiring back massage, but she tried hard. Then I learned her second phrase in english "Kalle mi", which means "Call me", and she tried to write down her number on one of the mirrors.

Yesyes, I said and then was guided back to my locker room, showered, dressed and when I was about to leave she was running towards me and gave me a piece of paper with her phone number. What the hell shall I do with this? Having a phone conversation consisting of "Megga la" and "Kalle mi"? I will never fully understand the girls anyways.

After a good hour I was back on the street. Would I go back? Yes, sure, the quality of the girls was nice, facilities very clean and nice, atmosphere very friendly. Damage 600RMB.

Address from the business card "The Best Spacial Service", between Fengyang Road and Nanjing road in the building of the Shopping complexe, 6Floor.

Opening hours between 1pm and 2am. Best to find the shopping center as I do not have a number, but the market like center seems to be very famous and is in every city guide.

Today I want to try a soapy, guess 999 is the best option? !

Have fun,

Schaf

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[Schaf29]

Never before have I seen or heard of a guy being led to a room with a girl 'waiting' there - you always get a selection to choose from.

I did not, i was hoping for some fishbowl or anything, but nothing like it. Was just lead into the room and nothing to choose, maybe bcs it was very busy? Or are there two different places within Shanghai Hotel?

[Wordsofwisdom]

Thanks for the several suggestions that people have given me regarding my earlier post on this matter. I need to make a few things clear;

1. I have been around a while and have never contemplated this situation before but she really does seem genuine.

2. If she isn't then I can accept this....my big head is thinking ! I haven't spent lots of money really and she can't speak any English so it is "free" Chinese with some nice perks thrown in! Especially her cooking and good morning smile.

3. If she does try to mess with me then I will decide what I will do as far as payback, although I don't really want to do this I will do what is necessary to seek retribution.

4. The main problem seems to be her complete lack of experience and lack of awareness of life and if she is faking this then she truly deserves an Oscar for her consistently good performance.

So time will tell and in the meantime I am able to take well meaning criticisms from other people and try to be objective about the future.

Not all girls are the same and I am more optimistic than many other people here it seems.

The least I can do is keep you guys posted about the outcome....so lessons can be learned either way.