South China - Shenzhen

[Bearsk]

I am big white guy with limited language. The Seibu BBS does not worry me, a bit like HK141 - although bad things can happen to the girls there. I worry about touts trying to take me off track and crazy girls who have unpredictable behavior. I am also concerned about whether the girls want to be there or not and hygiene/health level in the BBS arena.

I am Chinese and speak the language fluently, but there are still many places that I would not go solo. Seibu is not one of those. I'm a lot more terrified of going alone (or even with a group of less than 5) to some of the seedier KTVs and the like, particularly the ones that touts recommend. I've had bad experiences and friends have had worse ones.

If I were a big white guy, I might be less keen on going solo, but since most of the chicks and mamas are there every day if they fuck you over, they may face the consequences the next day. Honestly, I don't know of any terrifying stories in Seibu where the monger didn't fully deserve it.

Not sure 5 a day every other day is the record. Many many BBS girls do 10 guys a day every day except for their period, and some of them have boyfriends who fuck them too. It's easier for the BBS girls to rack that up just because the time is so much shorter - many sauna girls spend the full 90 min with a customer, whereas BBS girls average 10 minutes.

[Bearsk]

thanks, i get by but learn all the time, sorry for butchering the mandarin language in the process.
"yinhe" or "yinde" with flex of a finger to girls in the bbs does seem to induce amusement and interest.

couple comments:

dui (pronounced like dway) = yes
bu dui (pronounced like boodway accent on the dway) = wrong
piaoliang (pronounced like peeyaho leeyang) = generic pretty and can refer to anything.
liangnu/meinu = pretty girl
bo (pronounced like buo usually more common than mimi in south china, to ask for big breasted girl, ask for dabo, accent on the da) = breasts

yinhe (but nobody says this, it's something doctors would say) = clitoris
yindao (again, nobody says this except doctors) vagina

better to say xiaomeimei which means pussy, otherwise it sounds weird to the girl.

[Old Mean Dog]

Hi CP

Do you mean that Tru Color Louho is re-named as Chocolate. Please explain me its location.

Hows this DIMPLES club. Have you tried it.

No, Tru Colors is still called Tru Colors Dongmen. The 1st Class Club, changed to Dimples. I have not gone inside Dimples to see if any interior changes were made. Chocolate is another club in the Dongmen Shopping Area.

-CPE

[Old Mean Dog]

Why are Shenzhen girls so hot? ! I mean they are just so many 9's and 10's all over, which I bet are rich Hong Kong or Chinese guy's second wives. But sometimes I don't mind just sitting at the busy intersection in Louhu and just stare at all the model quality girls.

Because the "Cream of the Crop", from all over China, come to Shenzhen to make money here.

-CPE

[Old Mean Dog]

Honestly, I don't know of any terrifying stories in Seibu where the monger didn't fully deserve it.

Whose call is this, mine or theirs? I think its still better to be safe than sorry.

-CPE

[Niks647]

Hi CP

Do you mean that Tru Color Louho is re-named as Chocolate. Please explain me its location.

Hows this DIMPLES club. Have you tried it.

Actually, the 1st Class Club has closed and now under new management and new name. The club is called "Dimples" now. Tru Colors has 2 or 3 clubs in SZ, there is one that is in the Dongmen Shopping area which is closer to him and maybe a little nicer than the one between Mixc and Citic Plaza.

The main club in Luohu now is called "Chocolate" and it's a huge joint. Also located in Dongmen Shopping are, but on the backside nearest Shennan Rd.

-CPE

[AsnDragon]

Oah,

Why are Shenzhen girls so hot? ! I mean they are just so many 9's and 10's all over, which I bet are rich Hong Kong or Chinese guy's second wives. But sometimes I don't mind just sitting at the busy intersection in Louhu and just stare at all the model quality girls.

I never see these types and qualities in CP or elsewhere. I wonder why? Or perhaps I can guess why. The hot ones come to shenzhen to earn the big bucks I suppose.

The best place to seek out these hot chicks are right by queen's spa and bread talk bread store corner. All of the second wives or KTV girls seem to live in the buildings above and across the street from there. It's just a constant supply of hot beautiful women. Melts my heart every time I go there, sit down, eat my bread and see a hot chick.

PS- oh and I also agree with you, part of it is that shenzhen girls just know how to dress better than CP girls. (the more you earn and the longer you stay, the better you dress)

AsnDragon

Woshilaozi,

As far as I know, there are 3 types of SW around Seibu. Many of them are controlled by mamas that say, "Misseeee". Others are freelancers that work every night. Can you call these normal girls? Finally, there are a few that just want to earn some extra money and if the opportunity arises they will go for it. I met one that I thought was a freebie at first. We hung out for about 2-3 hours before she invited me back to her place. From the way the place was set-up, I could tell it was really where she lived. She never mentioned money to me, but after I did her and was ready to leave, she shyly asked me for 200 RMB.

The cards are all bullshit. They will just find a Seibu girl and sell her to you for 400-600 RMB. The do not have any of the other types they offer.

They are talking about someone else's second wife, but it is probably bullshit too. There are second wives that fuck around on the side, but they do not need a tout to promote them.

Just my POV.

OAH

[Da Dicknotist]

A bigshot friend and I (both mid 20s Chinese) went to the Roxy last night. It's about a block north of Lushan Hotel, and it's the newest club in Shenzhen that's only been open for the last 2 months. My friend mentioned it being better than Face and Richie, and I didn't believe that to be possible, so we went.

One of the top level managers at the Queen Spa worked formerly at Chocolate, and is a part owner at the Roxy, so often you'll see the customer service people partying it up there or at Chocolate. If you have a special taste for one of the masseuses or girls in white or black suits at the Queen and have big cojones and a lot of charm, you can try to get them to meet you at Roxy after work. Those who are higher up (black suits) will usually be able to get a big discount for you at Roxy.

Roxy is two floors, with the first floor having a smallish dance floor, a lot of smaller tables, and the open bar area. Upstairs is VIP seating that you usually need to book a reservation in advance for, and can accommodate parties of 10 or more. We sat on the first floor, but slowly mingled with some people on the dance floor and were invited onto the VIP tables.

The VIP tables are usually older businessmen, but occasionally you'll have a younger contingent. I originally thought it was a big party and they were intimately familiar with everyone at the table, but found out that's totally not the case. Usually, it's two or three guys hosting the party and paying for the table and inviting friends, and telling them to bring friends of friends. It's rare for anyone except the host to know even half of the crowd. The younger crowds are not good for P4P, but many are keen on finding boyfriends.

For this forum's purposes, I'd recommend being at Roxy at midnight or 1am, when the business folk usually start heading back to wives and children. Most of the girls they have there are takeout girls from KTVs and night clubs, and since they already have the night off and have been paid they don't go back to work. They usually hang out for a good time, but here's a good opportunity to get one for a cheaper rate than you'd pay straight at the KTV. I was quoted 500 ST/1000 LT by a girl who works at the night club right next to the Queen Spa. A bit steep, but she mentioned the club she worked at, and I know those girls go out only at their discretion and are not obligated to sleep with anyone. Coughed up 500, knowing full well she'd stay the night if I treated her well.

She was absolutely stunning. Formerly worked for a Dalian company doing a lot of trade with a Japanese company, she was bought by one of the Japanese guys and put in Shenzhen where he currently travels a lot. Total party girl at heart, she genuinely likes drinking and dancing and the club culture. Only a mediocre fuck because she was so used to just lying there, although she seems to have really enjoyed having sex with a younger guy. Stayed the night and took me out for a nice lunch at the MixC. Hell, she makes more money than I do, it's just fair that she pays!

Would be a lot of fun as a part time girlfriend. Working on that right now.

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[Da Dicknotist]

Just a quick question, are you Chinese or of Asian decent?

Though I have been in China several years, I am still the big white guy. I am not real keen on soloing Seibu or places like this due to the fact that this is where a criminal element resides and the activities I partake in are of the illegal nature. I still like having a wingman to watch my back and vice versa.

-CPE

I am Chinese and speak the language fluently, but there are still many places that I would not go solo. Seibu is not one of those. I'm a lot more terrified of going alone (or even with a group of less than 5) to some of the seedier KTVs and the like, particularly the ones that touts recommend. I've had bad experiences and friends have had worse ones.

If I were a big white guy, I might be less keen on going solo, but since most of the chicks and mamas are there every day if they fuck you over, they may face the consequences the next day. Honestly, I don't know of any terrifying stories in Seibu where the monger didn't fully deserve it.

An attractive sauna girl is the most f**ked. There was a story that one of the Tangxia Goodview girl (she was stunning) got through 5 a day on alternative days @ 600. Apparently, she used to earn around 50,000 a month but she lasted only 6 months before being wrapped.

Not sure 5 a day every other day is the record. Many many BBS girls do 10 guys a day every day except for their period, and some of them have boyfriends who fuck them too. It's easier for the BBS girls to rack that up just because the time is so much shorter - many sauna girls spend the full 90 min with a customer, whereas BBS girls average 10 minutes.

[Peter Eastwest]

Passed through SK last week for 2 nights and managed to slip local agent after dinner both nights. I heard him on phone arranging dates with HIS little second wife but pretended not to understand as much mandarin as I do. Haha

He goes off to HER and I go pussy-hunting on old SK trying out BBS and clubs for a gal to take back to hotel.

Was tempted to take two from the Manila Bar (I think the street is Sheng-Le Street) but then thought they did not have chemisrty to perform together, so I took Julie first night and Rong-Rong (or Yong-Yong) second night.

Both were enthusiastic performers and earned their 250 for long time about midnight to 9.00am. No tips asked and none given.

Shame that I can not able to stay longer in SK. There was a gal in the next bar that looked hot. Maybe next time.

Now back to land of poor service and high prices. Roll on June for back to China.

PE
PS No nude photos aloud by either gal and couldn't be bothered to take non-nude.

[Moody]

in the meantime remember in mandarin

dwee = right (yes)
boo dwee = not right (no)
piao liarng = beautiful girl
an mo = massage
mimi = tits
yindi = clitoris
yindao = vagina

have fun, please be safe.

couple comments:

dui (pronounced like dway) = yes
bu dui (pronounced like boodway accent on the dway) = wrong
piaoliang (pronounced like peeyaho leeyang) = generic pretty and can refer to anything.
liangnu/meinu = pretty girl
bo (pronounced like buo usually more common than mimi in south china, to ask for big breasted girl, ask for dabo, accent on the da) = breasts

yinhe (but nobody says this, it's something doctors would say) = clitoris
yindao (again, nobody says this except doctors) vagina

better to say xiaomeimei which means pussy, otherwise it sounds weird to the girl.

[Bearsk]

This also good advice.

Hi Cooldoc

You can actually try Sunshine Hotel's in-house girls from their Sauna/SPA/massage facility. Either you can go there and negotiate the deal with the girl at the counter. Alternatively you can order a girl into your room by calling on sauna/spa center. It will be a bit expensive though but you do negotiate with the girl.

Other option is to go to Sunshine Club. Its towards left side of hotel and you have to take escalators behind moonlight lounge to reach there. The girls are quite great there. Do visit and report. Also try First Class Bar on right side of Hotel as lots of girls are available there too. The First class bar do require formal dress code though.

If you really enjoy music then go to Tru Color bar in Futian district. It has great atmosphere and cool music and lots of chics...but no apparent working girls.

All the best.

[Bearsk]

Cooldoc I hope you are safe because at this rate you are cruising for a bruising.

I think you need to head for a massage place or stick to the Seibu BBS.

Try Flying Dragon Spa
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...postcount=2044

or go into Seibu BBS and let them take care of you

or let tout deliver to your hotel room.

For Mandarin your translator device is designed for Chinese to communicate with you - most can be set in reverse but instructions are in Chinese!!

You can buy a Berlitz guidebook (and CD) on Jianbin at one of the bookstores.

A good site for sex words in Chinese is http://tianmi.info/牛屄语言/

In the meantime remember in mandarin

Dwee = right (yes)
Boo dwee = not right (no)
Piao Liarng = beautiful girl
An mo = massage
Mimi = tits
Yindi = clitoris
Yindao = vagina

Have fun, please be safe.

Hi,

Thanks for the response guys. One thing is for sure that the fellow mongers are connected to save others and always try their best to enhance others pleasures. I guess that makes the brotherhood of this group stronger.

Bnlee2

You are right. I had been approached by different pimps / touts for the past three days / nights when coming or going from hotel. Infact I did manage to get one girl the other day to come with me. I had to take the walk with her through the hotel lobby and all. Well the girl spoke just enough to understand sign language but somehow I was anxious about her hygiene etc. So did not have so good time that I should have! All together she got 300 and her pimp got 200 (yeah I was drunk and could have done a better job! )

Any how yesterday I went to the IN bar again as I like the atmoshphere. Nice babes in there but all are looking to their mobile phones and are waiting for some locals etc. Then when the guys come they sit with them etc. However they don't even look at any guy / foreigner I mean! I stayed there for two drinks and enoyed looking and music. Then left to look for myself other places. I ended up being folllowed by a pimp just outside the Century Hotel. By now the Vodka and Tequila was working their way into my system. I decided to take the ride to the Never Land of Touts. I was taken into a dingy building to go up a stinking elevator. The elevator stopped on one floor with only one flat on it. The pimp took me in and their was one guy sweeping the floor and a women sitting and watching the TV welcomed me. I think this was one room apartment as I could see lots of hand bags lieing their in the walk area. I guess the other women working or must be out. I said the girl is nice but not for me. The pimp insisted that he show me other women. I decided to wait a bit to see her and then go. I had started to get an eery feeling by now. When the other girl had not arrived I told the pimp lets go down to check other girls. He kept on holding my hand. Then the girl who was sitting and watching tv got up and also insisted and was literrally trying to push me into sex! Any how I managed to get out of the apartment and then keeping the pimp interested in me I had him come downstairs not waiting for the elevator. Finally I got out! Wow what an experience. Yeah you are right not a good Idea!

I hung out at The G Club close to this area. An ugly looking mama came to me as soon as I sat in the bar / night club. She was not so happy that I told her I am not interested in her but she insisted that she loves me!

After one drink I left this place and came back to my hotel and decided to go to the Suana. Stayed there till was sleepy. After massage and then ended the day! What a day. I wonder what tonight holds for me! A real Chinese expedition I would say.

[Old Mean Dog]

On safety, I've always felt 100% safe in the Seibu area. I've been upstairs, downstairs, in the alleys, and in the main street during a police raid, and have always had no doubt there would be no bad consequences.

Just a quick question, are you Chinese or of Asian decent?

Though I have been in China several years, I am still the big white guy. I am not real keen on soloing Seibu or places like this due to the fact that this is where a criminal element resides and the activities I partake in are of the illegal nature. I still like having a wingman to watch my back and vice versa.

-CPE

[ManonsanBoy]

Hrrmmmph....Elitist!!

Have you ever considered that lots of KTV gals "graduated" from the BBS's 0r even.... the saunas?

SEAJ

I know a couple of mummies reasonably well. She was once a sauna girl herself and she was recruited from a BBS. There is a whole network. The sauna girls are the most trained in terms of sex. The BBS girls are basically untrained and pay for all theor own makeup etc. What you see is what you get.

Most of the KTV girls training is around dress and makeup.

Saunas are a different matter. I have had trainees in whith regular girls. The cost was 100 RMB for the trainees. They are taught the routine by the regulars who get 50 of their 100.

An attractive sauna girl is the most f**ked. There was a story that one of the Tangxia Goodview girl (she was stunning) got through 5 a day on alternative days @ 600. Apparently, she used to earn around 50,000 a month but she lasted only 6 months before being wrapped.