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[Nugent 134]

Finally got around to trying 37 Dundas, popular on this forum recently. HKD470, pay up front. Good time, nice place. Lineup of 5 girls, no stunners, but all decent. Chose the one with the best smile, didn't disappoint. Two shots, good attitude. Didn't catch the name. Will return, might repeat if I saw her in the lineup.

Here's one I haven't seen posts about -- 8 Mong Kok Rd, supposed to be first floor, but it's actually up two flights of stairs. HKD360, pay on the way out. Looks a bit dodgy, but it's ok. As is the norm for these places, they put you in a room then bring in girls one at a time. I expected to pass on the first one, but she was young and slim and super hot, so I accepted. Her name was Dau Dau. She took me up a few flights of stairs to another room (a little nicer than the first room), for the standard routine. Great looking girl, service was ok. May return but would not repeat.

[Scorpian007]

Basically. You sometimes need to walk up and start conversation. The girls are still shy, at least some of them. Sometimes a nice smile and Hi goes along way. I have been there around 15-20 times, and analysed the situation quite carefully.

The ones that have been there longer, (probably more mileage in their pants too) and the ones that are drunk, or the ones that are desperate for money, may be the ones to make a move first.

Maybe you could try one that is just sitting quietly. Those usually don't disappoint.

Bodempjemichael

Backlash's advice is good. Here's a supplement specifically on the Columbian question you asked.

Wanchai is my usual stomping ground and I find myself there often with veteran HK visitors from Europe and USA who want to taste the same experience you seek.

Generally IMHO the best approach that's worked well for me consistently is a quick walk around the bar (pretend you're looking for someone and be discrete if you're on your own) and get a feel for the local talent. Usually girls will sit in small groups or by themselves (quietly as Backlash pointed out) but they always leave some room around them for you to step up with a drink (or if you smoke then with a cigarette) and usually a smile and some eye contact with the girl you're interested in will peak her interest enough to kick off some small talk.

Remember they know what you're looking for and hopefully you know what you want (even if you're shy about just walking up and approaching someone directly with a proposition -- which is always more threatening and puts the girl on the defensive even as a pro).

You want a comfortable, relaxed 'date' and it doesn't hurt to be friendly, strike up some conversation, order her a drink (usually tequila rock and roll for most who are making money off drinks) and then chat --- it will make her feel at ease, and you too if you are the nervous type.

If you're simply sitting at the bar or a table having a drink then Backlash is right in that the desperate ones will generally approach you - also see my comment below on 'flutuation of the supply/demand curve during the night in some clubs. In my opinion Never Never go for someone who walks up to you unless you know her, or she has the assets you're interested in, without first checking out what you want. I'm just saying this is in my experience, others may have had better experiences and YEMV based on the club and the girls.

If the girls are in a group, like most females in nature there is an alpha female and then the rest. it's sometimes best imho (say, when you want two or if the competition is heavy) to create a bit of interesting competition by flirting with more than one. Then they will naturally compete for your attention but if you're shy and new to the game you might get slammed into bad pricing.

Just play it cool, relax, be nice and have a drink or two to let the guards down and find out if she's willing to give you a real GFE - you will know based on how hurried or aggressive she is. I've found if you are assertive and confident (even if you're shy), and you are very respectful to the girl, she will provide you with excellent service and a great experience. Respect goes a long way.

I've had some great experiences and girls have stayed overnight with me several times and even made me breakfast or gone out for brunch with a quick one in the mid-afternoon the next day. It depends on the girl and your chemistry but remember it's business.

Lately I've been on a Columbian kick in Fenwicks. Having lived in South America and specifically Columbia I know what SW's can be like from there (as well as some Spanish and Portugese). Most speak english albeit some very little but hand signals and dollar signs are universal and they are pros anyway. Many of the one's here at first pass are quite stuck up but it's a cover (for some it's permanent). If Columbians know you well enough and you've seen the same girl more than once you will get excellent increasing service and they can be very giving to their papasita. South American women are truly hot and love sex - I prefer Brazil to Columbia because Backdoor is par for the course and I like that.

Columbians in HKG think they can charge a hefty premium -- IME, first, they want to drink a lot to get warmed up before making a move. Generally they are nice and pleasant and usually I let them quote the price once we have a few winks and nudges.

IME, business during the night at some clubs (Fenwicks for example) fluctuates and so does the price or negotiation effort - spot the trend depending on what time you come in an how many guys are in there - Just Negotiate - fare, time, service level - generally if you're prepared to walk to the next table there are plenty of other girls waiting for your company and to part you from your money.

I've had to negotiate from as much as HK$2500 down to $1500 and that's only for s/t (1-2 hours). It's hard to get her down to what you want if she see you want her bad enough so play it cool and be prepared to walk away unless you're too far gone on drinks with her to bail out (happened to me once when I had too many stops before hand at other establishments; got too far in and invested too much time to get out and ended up paying $1500 for 3 hours).

Generally these days it's on average between HK$1200 to HK$1500 for l/t depending on what time we leave the club but that's usually 6+ hours. I may be paying too much but for Columbian punani that's a fair price in my book and for some of the best BBBJ and FS I've had outside of South America.

Others may have better advice for you. Hope this long but perhaps junior posting helps. Good luck and good hunting.

Scorp

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[Nugent 134]

On a string of 141 girls recently (two a day), and today, for the first time (in about 50 shots), I came across one that was NOT the girl pictured. Here's the listing on 141:

http://www.******.com/en/viewid.php?...pe=-1&keyword=

Even though it does not show her face, I am certain it's not the girl I just screwed.

Reasonably good session, though, and stickers on her door pointed me to another 141 site. Seems to be all chinese, but you can decipher what you need to find them. Most have good maps. The site:

www.xgirl161.com

Worth a look.

[Rick Hunter]

I don't quite understand the meaty comment. Last time, around two weeks ago, that I was at 740 Nathan Road I had a very sexy 22 year old Hong Kong girl. I think they have a fairly good selection there and whoever said that you need Chinese to go there is wrong. I have no problems speaking English with the mamas and some of the HK girls there has ok, but not great, english.

Between 740 Nathan Road and 37 Dundas I can see no reason to visit K-Pressure with their declining quality of girls. (There are many other similar places in the Jordan to Prince Edward area).

If meaty Hong Kong girls are your penchant, suggest you check out 740 Nathan road.

Cheers!

[Ramn HK]

Given that 37 Dundas is cheaper than KPressure ($470 vs $490), it's a complete result and gets the Idler31 stamp of approval.

If meaty Hong Kong girls are your penchant, suggest you check out 740 Nathan road.

Cheers!

[Nugent 134]

Here's a place I have not seen posted about -- Lily Massage, on Wellington Street in Central. HKD300, decent massage, and hj/bj/fs, depending on who you get, I guess. No pressure for tips at all, just the 300. Reasonably good value, imho.

For a really great massage, go to Warm Feeling Thai Massage near LKF, it's on On Wa Lane (or is it Wa On Lane? Sorry, I forget, but they advertise in HK Mag), at the end of the street, on the left, 1F, sign outside. Straight massage, no sex. BUT... I have gotten freebies from two of the girls by asking them out for drinks after work. Come in at 10:30 and get a 90 minute oil massage. They close at 12 and the girls like to go out afterwards. I am 2 for 3 with this approach, both times the girl stayed overnight.

Also, I've been to lots of the 141 girls and have many favorites. My simple observation: I find if you repeat, you get better service. Find one you like and go back. It gets better.

[Hk Dog]

New HK ID cards? Now I know how rumors start!! I have had my new ID card for 4 yrs now!

The girl situation is pretty bad in HK if you like quality. If you like shooting fish in a barrel then its still an enjoyable nightlife.

Immigration from time to time limits inflow of girls. Vietnemese women have not been seen in over a yr due to denying Visa's while they can freely travel to Sing.

[Michael66]

Apparently the new HK ID cards are out and the police are out in full force apprehending overstayers and visa abusers.

This has nothing to do with the new ID cards, they are out for a long time now, I rather guess it has more to do that Chinese New Year is comeing up next month.

[KuntaKinte]

I noticed in Wanchai last week that there seemed to be far fewer girls around. Is it a function of Immigration getting tougher or a new year lull where they all went back to Filipines for Christmas?

Anyone else have similar observations or is it improving again?

Apparently the new HK ID cards are out and the police are out in full force apprehending overstayers and visa abusers.

[Joe Banana]

I noticed in Wanchai last week that there seemed to be far fewer girls around. Is it a function of Immigration getting tougher or a new year lull where they all went back to Filipines for Christmas?
Anyone else have similar observations or is it improving again?

[Idler31]

Curiosity got the better of me. I'd read a couple of reports on here about 37 Dundas Street in Mongkers, and how much better it was than KPressure. I'm a sceptical type and much given to empiricism, which means - in short - I had to go and check it out for myself.

Easy enough to find. Go to Yau Ma Tei MTR and come out of Exit A. Walk along Nathan Road, past Hamilton Road, and then take the next left into Dundas Street. Look for the big "390" yellow sign on your right hand side, and be prepared to dive into a doorway almost immediately. It's easy to spot: there's pictures of tasty women outside and it does indeed state, in English, "Man's Paradise".

You've got a choice in here. There's one snatch-emporium on the 1st floor and another on the third. The hourly hotel they share is on the 4th floor (although this being HK, it'll actually be the fifth floor).

I tried the place on the first floor. It's cleaner than KPressure and the mama was effusively friendly and giggly as she read the tariffs in English off a post-it note. I got my beer and the line-up arrived. Six girls, all brought in at once. And damn, it's true. They were streets ahead of the munters and shunters at KPressure. One girl was simply outstandingly perfect for my personal tastes: her name was Kaka, she was from Yunnan, she had flawless skin and was pleasingly short and plump. Not in any way fat, you understand. Just meaty in the way that HK girls generally aren't.

Service was good. Long shower; BBBJ; FS in several positions. Kaka made a game attempt at anal too but luck was not on our side (i.e I'd had a couple of beers beforehand). Finished up inside, rested, and then Kaka performed a spectacular BBBJCIM second shot. Only problem with this one is she does try to go bareback - once in the shower and once again on the bed - and it takes a little effort to persuade her to stop and apply the bag. Takes some will power too, dammit.

The hourly hotel is nicer than KPressure's too. There's actually toilets so you don't have to [CodeWord140] in the shower (unless you want to, of course).

Given that 37 Dundas is cheaper than KPressure ($470 vs $490), it's a complete result and gets the Idler31 stamp of approval.

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[Neuromancer]

Ok, so was reading in the Shanghai thread. About having some secret code or something to identify other ISG members when looking for pussy.

Was over at Hop Yee the other night (Friday). Was pretty busy, and was waiting for a particular girl that I'd been hanging with for the past week or two. Anyway, when I got there, she was occupied. And had a long line in front of her door. I guess that she had already told one of the guys camped out in front of her door to "come back later" and it was now "later". She walked over and asked if could run down to mickey D's to grab her a hamburger. Was pretty cool with that. As I was hungry as well. So back to Hop Yee with a bunch of food and a few beers from 7-11. Parked myself in front of her door.

Started chatting with another dude who was also hanging around waiting. Talked about the different places in HK to visit. Mentioned K-pressure and he knew the place. So I'm sort of wondering, "does this guy check ISG? If so, what's his handle? " Threw out K-pressure cause I know that it's discussed alot on this board. Guess I could've also asked if he knew Jackson.

Thoughts?

[Backslash]

Hi all,

I will be visiting HK in January and will be checking out the Wanchai bar scene. I have read the entire forum which is very very helpful, but I still have some questions.

How do things actually work inside the bars?

Do you have to walk up and start conversation with the girl you want, or would hanging out near the bar and making eye contact and waiting for the girl to come over be the way to go?

I am a 30 year old, well dressed and good looking European (ehhhhh. Not shy but also no smooth-talking playboy type), will that give me an advantage?

Give me some advice! ;.)

Also I am very curious about the Columbians. Anyone had any positive experiences with them? Are they worth the extra money they are asking?

Thanks a lot!

Basically. You sometimes need to walk up and start conversation. The girls are still shy, at least some of them. Sometimes a nice smile and Hi goes along way. I have been there around 15-20 times, and analysed the situation quite carefully.

The ones that have been there longer, (probably more mileage in their pants too) and the ones that are drunk, or the ones that are desperate for money, may be the ones to make a move first.

Maybe you could try one that is just sitting quietly. Those usually don't disappoint.

[Backslash]

Hey, was the $700 HKD at TST Sauna, FS (Full Service)? Or was it just a BS (Body Slide)? I'll go there next time or Sun Hot Sauna, which also has terrific reviews.

Sorry about Jordan Sauna. I've had terrific low-cost service there about 10 times so far, maybe because I'm a known by their staff. I understand why you probably didn't get good service there and the place is rundown. Didn't know they had an LE bust way back as you claimed.

Thanks for the report!

Gyaos.

Yeah man, its full service. All though I must say, I think Sun Hot is more expensive. However, who knows who has better girls. I had this bad experience with TST Sauna, in the fact that everytime I went there, it was 4am in the morning and there were only 3-4 girls to choose from. Oh well. No matter. Tell me how it goes.

[Backslash]

hi backslash,

i noticed that you ended up tipping the doormen at fenwicks, after which you had no problems. that's great for visitors, and i'm glad it worked for you. i continue to have small words with new doormen on the odd occasion (see below). did you ever try the above (passport waving)? just curious as to what happened.

btw--neptune ii has a new doorman who wanted to charge me a $300 cover on january 2. i asked for three of the bartenders by name and he said "sorry, i'm new here. go ahead." (i had known the old doorman for almost 8 years, since he used to work at la bamba). so yes, wanchai doormen continue to receive racist instructions.

cheers,

bd

lol mate. i think they actually figured as soon as i protested, that no local hong kong person could speak english that fluently, and most didn't bother with it. i think the main reason i had passport waving if anything, was at the fucking circle k once in wanchai, when the stupid girl thought i was under 18 and trying to buy cigarettes ****. ahahaha