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[Menteng]

I'm hoping one of the Indonesia experts here can help me with this.

Sometimes when I engage with Indonesian women they often use the term "muah"(sp??) . A search of what this means on Dr Google indicates it's something to do with kisses, but that doesn't make sense to me in the context I feel it is being used.

Can anyone help me out here, I'm curious?

Thanks.

Styk.

Can you give a sentence as an example? It can be a contraction of two words. Like "can't" that actually is "can not".

[Stykler]

I'm hoping one of the Indonesia experts here can help me with this.

Sometimes when I engage with Indonesian women they often use the term "muah"(sp??) . A search of what this means on Dr Google indicates it's something to do with kisses, but that doesn't make sense to me in the context I feel it is being used.

Can anyone help me out here, I'm curious?

Thanks.

Styk.

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[BushRusher]

FWIW, .... My 2 cents multiple times LOL.

Also android phones have a location history and keeps track of where you go. Kind of like the ones that are on GPS enabled sports / health watches that can track and log your bike ride, run, or hike. AFAIK, the history is on your phone and most likely in the cloud too. You can actually share current locations too.

Forget about iPhones. Some many things are backed up to the cloud.

[BushRusher]

While we are on the phone subject. Does anybody know if the messages from one sim on a dual sim phone can be stored separately from the messages on the other sim. IE: OS has met many young ladies who have expressed a desire to sample his big thing on a subsequent occasion. OS thinks that this would be a great idea and would love to save the number of fair maiden. However it is quite likely that lady OS would take a dim view of these messages appearing on my phone. The ideal solution would be to have a dual sim phone where messages from one sim can be hidden or indeed the whole sim is invisible to lady OS unless she opens the cover up. Any experts on this?

If you set the store numbers to SIM, you should be able to select which SIM each time you store, so when the SIM is out of the phone no one can see.

Pop the SIM out when you cross borders. For storage, yes, they separate. All the talk about 'burner' phones and what not when a simple dual sim solves everything.

FWIW, with most android phones, you can select where to store telephone numbers, SIM 1, SIM2, phone, or which ever Google account you want that is logged in by your phone under the "accounts" settings. If you have set the sync contact options on in google, it will pick up your phone numbers and save it to Google accounts. That is for general Contact information, including phone numbers.

For text or SMS messages. Any text messages and phone calls you receive on either SIM will appear in the phone telephone call history and text message app. Just the telephone numbers will appear if the number is not associated with a Contact's number on the phone, Google. Or SIM. So your SYT's text message that she is going to [CodeWord123] you will still be there under her telephone number but will not appear as a contact in your contact phonebook, whether phone, SIM or Google.

Your phone is not "clean" in the above case. You need to clear all cache messages and history and god knows where. You need to be fairly tech savvy to find all the places.

Hence burner phone. Factory reset and donate to your SYT.

On a dual SIM phone, best to stick to an internet based system running on an app like Whatsapp, Line, or whatever. If you uninstall it, you still need to hunt down the backups and data directories. Whatsapp backs up to the phone and can also backup to google cloud. Again need to be tech savvy.

Burner phone, idiot proof. Break phone up and throw into furnace. Kind of what Payten Manning did in inflate gate. He would be in much deeper stuff in he did not use text messaging and physical destruction. Here end the lesson. My 2 cents multiple times LOL.

[Menteng]

I will be in Jakarta at the end of this month. I have not decided where to stay, probably in the north part of town where as suggested by several Jakarta veterans that it is easier to monger.

I have to go to Bandung from Jakarta. I wanted to buy my ticket online at www.tiket.com. However, I am confused by the several train stations in Jakarta and Bandung (I am going to stay near Alun-Alun on Jl Asia Afrika.) Which Jakarta station should I depart from, and which station in Bandung should I arrive at? Thank you very much for your help.

Funman13.

Depart from Stasiun Gambir in Jakarta. Take the Argo Parahyangan eksekutif, you will arrive at the main station in Bandung.

Do a google for the departure times.

[Borojon]

I will be in Jakarta at the end of this month. I have not decided where to stay, probably in the north part of town where as suggested by several Jakarta veterans that it is easier to monger.

I have to go to Bandung from Jakarta. I wanted to buy my ticket online at www.tiket.com. However, I am confused by the several train stations in Jakarta and Bandung (I am going to stay near Alun-Alun on Jl Asia Afrika.) Which Jakarta station should I depart from, and which station in Bandung should I arrive at? Thank you very much for your help.

Funman13.

Gambir station is the one to use.

[AussieDoug]

While we are on the phone subject. Does anybody know if the messages from one sim on a dual sim phone can be stored separately from the messages on the other sim. IE: OS has met many young ladies who have expressed a desire to sample his big thing on a subsequent occasion. OS thinks that this would be a great idea and would love to save the number of fair maiden. However it is quite likely that lady OS would take a dim view of these messages appearing on my phone. The ideal solution would be to have a dual sim phone where messages from one sim can be hidden or indeed the whole sim is invisible to lady OS unless she opens the cover up. Any experts on this?

If you set the store numbers to SIM, you should be able to select which SIM each time you store, so when the SIM is out of the phone no one can see.

[BushRusher]

While we are on the phone subject. Does anybody know if the messages from one sim on a dual sim phone can be stored separately from the messages on the other sim. IE: OS has met many young ladies who have expressed a desire to sample his big thing on a subsequent occasion. OS thinks that this would be a great idea and would love to save the number of fair maiden. However it is quite likely that lady OS would take a dim view of these messages appearing on my phone. The ideal solution would be to have a dual sim phone where messages from one sim can be hidden or indeed the whole sim is invisible to lady OS unless she opens the cover up. Any experts on this?

I have several dual. The messages are merged. Suggest a dual burner phone. You can hide SMS but it is a pain. There are more options on an internet based app.

[FunMan13]

I will be in Jakarta at the end of this month. I have not decided where to stay, probably in the north part of town where as suggested by several Jakarta veterans that it is easier to monger.

I have to go to Bandung from Jakarta. I wanted to buy my ticket online at www.tiket.com. However, I am confused by the several train stations in Jakarta and Bandung (I am going to stay near Alun-Alun on Jl Asia Afrika.) Which Jakarta station should I depart from, and which station in Bandung should I arrive at? Thank you very much for your help.

Funman13.

[LifeIsABeach]

While we are on the phone subject. Does anybody know if the messages from one sim on a dual sim phone can be stored separately from the messages on the other sim. IE: OS has met many young ladies who have expressed a desire to sample his big thing on a subsequent occasion. OS thinks that this would be a great idea and would love to save the number of fair maiden. However it is quite likely that lady OS would take a dim view of these messages appearing on my phone. The ideal solution would be to have a dual sim phone where messages from one sim can be hidden or indeed the whole sim is invisible to lady OS unless she opens the cover up. Any experts on this?

Depends on the OS. I have Windows 10 Mobile and I have to state where the messages are stored.

[Golfinho]

While we are on the phone subject. Does anybody know if the messages from one sim on a dual sim phone can be stored separately from the messages on the other sim. IE: OS has met many young ladies who have expressed a desire to sample his big thing on a subsequent occasion. OS thinks that this would be a great idea and would love to save the number of fair maiden. However it is quite likely that lady OS would take a dim view of these messages appearing on my phone. The ideal solution would be to have a dual sim phone where messages from one sim can be hidden or indeed the whole sim is invisible to lady OS unless she opens the cover up. Any experts on this?

Pop the SIM out when you cross borders. For storage, yes, they separate. All the talk about 'burner' phones and what not when a simple dual sim solves everything.

[Offshore Swell]

While we are on the phone subject. Does anybody know if the messages from one sim on a dual sim phone can be stored separately from the messages on the other sim. IE: OS has met many young ladies who have expressed a desire to sample his big thing on a subsequent occasion. OS thinks that this would be a great idea and would love to save the number of fair maiden. However it is quite likely that lady OS would take a dim view of these messages appearing on my phone. The ideal solution would be to have a dual sim phone where messages from one sim can be hidden or indeed the whole sim is invisible to lady OS unless she opens the cover up. Any experts on this?

[Smoothy]

But, I can also appreciate Robert Long's words of caution. In an impoverished and unjust society, some people can be expected to resort to desperate measures, making a tall, pale foreigner an obvious target.

In my opinion, Indonesia is one of the safest countries in the entire world. You have nothing to worry about. If you were in Chicago, you could worry.

[Eszpresszo]

Thank again to all for your kind responses, which are not taken for granted. I like the comment OS made. If you fall into the curious category of personalities, you will quickly gain enough to get by. Yeah, that's me. And I am a tall, very white person, which probably means I would stand out to anyone who has something / anything to sell. And I appreciate your concise overview of the nation as well as the monger's perspective. I wasn't sure just how widespread P4P existed in Indonesia outside of major cities. And I appreciate you pointing out how nice and helpful that Indonesians can be. My experience with Indonesians goes way back to foreign students I met in college, and they were indeed very nice folks. But they also were from the affluent class and living in a Western environment. Hardly an accurate sampler of Indonesian society I would think.

But, I can also appreciate Robert Long's words of caution. In an impoverished and unjust society, some people can be expected to resort to desperate measures, making a tall, pale foreigner an obvious target.

One thing I recall reading about Indonesia is that it is still possible to get a "contract marriage" under Sharia law, which I think speaks volumes about the society. I also understand that males from Singapore and other parts of Asia come to Indonesia and get a short-term girlfriend or "weekend wife". Maybe its just some sensationalism I watched in youtube videos, depicting ordinary women from ordinary backgrounds rendering their services, but not really acknowledging that they are prostitutes. Why are I getting the feeling that Indonesia can be a good place to get a "girlfriend" for the duration of your visit? What might be known as "Extra long time" in Thailand. Short-time has been fun, but it it is starting to get old. I might be ready to a 72-hour commitment or something along those lines. Thoughts on that path?