Bali

[Johhnny]

You have that typical Yank attitude: "Let's throw around some money because everything is so dirt cheap in that country." No thank you.

It is not about throwing money around, it is the negotiating over 5 or 10 USD. I just don't see the point.

[Avoloz]

[BigBabyBorn]

Dear Sir ProfDesigner.

I think we are not laughing about the same thing. Dirty rooms, dirty girls, dirty cloth, dirty mamasans, dirty dirty dirty. Why should I pay for these ugly situation. 1 Rupiah is too much. There is only crying about this situation. Better meet a freelancer, talk laugh eat drink and fuck her in a good, sophistic atmosphere. Buy her perhaps shoes, shirt, ring or whatever. Give her an extra plus. Be generous. It will be nice. And at the end do it like ProfDesigner always do, give 5 bucks as a plus.

[ProfDesigner]

I agree completely. All the girls that work in the pits in Sanur are from the Compuns or small villages. They are not clean, they don't know about personal hygiene and are basically slaves to the masters that make the money and give them a small percentage.

I read these comments about paying only 200, 000 and 250, 000 is too much and the need to nego a better price and I have to laugh. And some guys do not want to tip if they are not happy with the service. What do you want for 250, 000? You get what you pay for.

Go to Jakarta and find women with class and grace, that know their profession. Get what you pay for in spades. But don't complain about paying 250, 000 for a dirty girl from some village in Java that will leave you with something you won't forget.

RL

You know I sit back and I laugh at what you guys are complaining over. $5 extra is too much? Come on, get real you have to realise that the girl gets maybe rp. 50, 000 ($5) if they are lucky if you screw down a price its the girl who gets less, not the boss. But in all reality are you guys really saying that paying $25 is too much to have your hot sweaty body all over them. I was in Bali a long time and in the early days you could get a girl for $30 but the smart girls woke up to them having a product that guys want. In the end you get what you pay for. If you pay $20 and she is a lousy lay then thats what you get for paying for cheap quality. I'm back in Australia now and the cheapest I've seen advertised is $250 for 1 hour of service, where in Bali you can get a decent girl for $50. $100 for all night. If you guys are truly that cheap then you deserve what you get in the fleapits, sorry to call you guys out over it but I'm tired of reading about guys bitching over $5.

Either way Nyepi is now over so there will be many girls looking for money now so good luck with the hunt, I miss the LBFMs although Brisbane is full of asian students so the Prof is goin huntin.

Prof

[Robert Long]

I can not understand that a lot of buddys prefer for example fishbowls or the XX houses. The most of them are not clean, no air condition, dirty beds and sheets, noise from the other rooms. A lot of girls only 5/10 and with stinky wholes. A lot of bad smell everywhere no clear lights, no refrigerator for a cold bintang or champaigne, no music, no fine shower, no clean toilette and no and no and no. This is for me too much of horror. Keep on rocking freelancer in my private villa. No so expensive!

I agree completely. All the girls that work in the pits in Sanur are from the Compuns or small villages. They are not clean, they don't know about personal hygiene and are basically slaves to the masters that make the money and give them a small percentage.

I read these comments about paying only 200, 000 and 250, 000 is too much and the need to nego a better price and I have to laugh. And some guys do not want to tip if they are not happy with the service. What do you want for 250, 000? You get what you pay for.

Go to Jakarta and find women with class and grace, that know their profession. Get what you pay for in spades. But don't complain about paying 250, 000 for a dirty girl from some village in Java that will leave you with something you won't forget.

RL

[Dom Perignon]

I can not understand that a lot of buddys prefer for example fishbowls or the XX houses. The most of them are not clean, no air condition, dirty beds and sheets, noise from the other rooms. A lot of girls only 5/10 and with stinky wholes. A lot of bad smell everywhere no clear lights, no refrigerator for a cold bintang or champaigne, no music, no fine shower, no clean toilette and no and no and no. This is for me too much of horror. Keep on rocking freelancer in my private villa. No so expensive!

Totally agree with you. And your point of view.

I must say that it does not mean I like to overpay.

I just don't like to be ripped (200 or 250) for a room that cost 20.000 idr a night and a girl that I would not fuck even if I'm the one getting paid.

Plus if I must save money I do not monger. That's the only way to save.

Freelance all my life.

Enjoy,

Ildom

[Avoloz]

[Tiger 888]

Do I have the exchange rate correct? You passed on a BJ for about 31 USD? To each his own, but you would hardly be out of pocket for this "overpaying" and getting full satisfaction. Just my two cents and plan to visit the region within the next month

You have that typical Yank attitude: "Let's throw around some money because everything is so dirt cheap in that country." No thank you.

[BigBabyBorn]

I can not understand that a lot of buddys prefer for example fishbowls or the XX houses. The most of them are not clean, no air condition, dirty beds and sheets, noise from the other rooms. A lot of girls only 5/10 and with stinky wholes. A lot of bad smell everywhere no clear lights, no refrigerator for a cold bintang or champaigne, no music, no fine shower, no clean toilette and no and no and no. This is for me too much of horror. Keep on rocking freelancer in my private villa. No so expensive!

[Avoloz]

Do I have the exchange rate correct? You passed on a BJ for about 31 USD? To each his own, but you would hardly be out of pocket for this "overpaying" and getting full satisfaction. Just my two cents and plan to visit the region within the next month

I totally agree with Shuga (sorry about my spelling mistakes of the place) ; yes it has more to do with inflating the prices unnecessarily. As Bules we are already paying a premium for the privilege. Finally and luckily, satisfaction is not linked to how much you paid but how you played and went about your explorations. Enjoy and have fun.

[Shuga]

Do I have the exchange rate correct? You passed on a BJ for about 31 USD? To each his own, but you would hardly be out of pocket for this "overpaying" and getting full satisfaction. Just my two cents and plan to visit the region within the next month

One of the little known secrets in passing information is to spell a name correctly. I would guess that Avaloz actually meant Tantangan, and if you make a search on that name you will find my report no #3645 from August last year. There, at the bottom, I reported:

Stepwise she lowered her prices and I found out that the prices would be 150 k for HJ. 250 for BJ and 350 for FS, all with the massage included and the two first with touching allowed.

So Johhnnyy, even though you have the correct exchange rate it's just plain stupid to jump at the first price offered and hope for "full satisfaction", regardless if it will empty your pocket or not. You still have some time to review your way of thinking.

Avaloz did the correct thing since he knew the price map.

[Shuga]

Well Shuga I am aghast. You are certainly an A player in this game far be it from me to tell you how to play the game.

Haha, Hardies, thanks; one can always learn!

I think I understand the business acumen. I asked because there has been a couple of members in the past who have described the boss at an ST hotel as a "friend" but still have payed 50-200 krp more than the normal price.

Your way works, since you pay 50 krp less. But your way also takes time, and I'm a lazy guy. And I also like to butterfly.

[Johhnny]

Went to check out Tanganan Massage + Spa (got a few mentioning in the past). I think the girl a previous punter was describing could have been Julie, 38y from Bali, divorced with a 15y old son (face 8/10 body 4/10). Well she looked very well fed to me with some good Pirellis around the mid section and a massive rear asset. Started with the 'normal' massage for I think she said 70K. The undies came off swiftly as she was into massaging my butt. Well it is the biggest muscle and it gets neglected most of the time. So I enjoyed that bit. After the flip she started talking about extras that are available here and now. I probed her to find out more about the offerings and associated costs. Naturally she started way too high with HJ for 200K and BJ something like 350K and 'bum-bum' at 500K. I tried to convince her that my funds are more geared around the pricings like 29 and the likes are asking. Sadly she is not a good negotiator and consequently she missed out. Anyway, her physique is not to my liking and I moved on after the massage. She still friendly and tries to entice me when I walk past the shop on the way to greener pastures.

Do I have the exchange rate correct? You passed on a BJ for about 31 USD? To each his own, but you would hardly be out of pocket for this "overpaying" and getting full satisfaction. Just my two cents and plan to visit the region within the next month

[BigBabyBorn]

Yesterday night run through the Jalan Dyana Pura to find some cuties. And there were a lot of very good looking girls. Woooww. Along the bar strip I went to Mixwell and Bali Joe. So fine babys at Facebar too. But after a strong looking these beautiful women are all men. Sorry about this. So I drive with my Harley in the right and the bottle of jackie in the left hand to Kudeta. What a arrogant place with nothing behind. Potato Head, Cocoon and the other so told high class venues are bullshit too. Only faces. So I bike around found a cute freelancer. Have a late night dinner with her at the breeze, good conversation and fuck her in all her wholes in my villa. Not more than 700.000 Rupias including++!

[Hardies]

Hardies, though I normally prefer the fishbowls I am sure I can benefit from some tips for the ST hotels, so please fire ahead!

Well Shuga I am aghast.

You are certainly an A player in this game far be it from me to tell you how to play the game.

But at the end of the day it is simple business logic.

My suggestion re ST hotels was based on a simple business theory that look after the supplier, get close to the supplier.

And reap addition rewards. I do this everyday in my working life.

I have a developed a relationship with Putu at 41X we drink together socialize together.

I know his family we have a relationship bigger than Hi How Much!

He has some very interesting family connections which shall we say are on the "other side of the fence"

It pays dividends when he selects my next conquest

Nothing more than simple business acumen.

I am sure a man of your talents would understand this process.

Yet I fear many of us just shop without looking for the second tier opportunity.

Good hunting.