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  1. #6580
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]

    For a quiet HJ that the missus won't suspect just go to the massage places off JL Legian or Dukung Sari. Or break free for a couple of hours and go to Delta.
    These places off JL are the type that 2-3 women will walk in during massage to upsell / rifle through you wallet?

    If there's any specific recommendation, I'm all ears.

    Thank you for your help so far.

  2. #6579

    General thoughts on recent posts

    Just my thoughts on a few posts below.

    It's best not compare spa's with the X houses, most tourist would not be happy with the X houses due to the squalor, one option is to ask to take the girl to your hotel if you are staying in sanur.

    Kaskus is a good reference site but a pita to navigate, locals pay 400 k for FS at Denpasar spa's and regularly pay 700+ for other options, ie freelancers.

    Michat is another very cheap option but there are mixed reviews and fake profiles reported in the kaskus group I've been in, prices range from 300-700 k. You may get lucky. Don't confuse this with WeChat which is different and probably better in Jakarta than Bali.

    I pay 500 k for online girls short time and get a nice mix of young and milfs ladies offering great GFE. But it takes a real effort across many different platforms. If you are just on vacation it's probably too time consuming. Most girls will hold out for 7-800 k. I've only had average service from 1 online girl.

    One of the most overlooked methods is just smile and chat to girls you meet in malls, restaurants, shops and regular spa's and ask if they have WA. Be nice to them and you might get lucky, these girls are working for small change to us and some are willing to meet you but will be too shy to approach you. Just be very polite and just a bit flirty. What's the worse that can happen, she says no.

    Everyone will have different experiences in Bali dependant on their looks, age, approachability etc. It is not a point and shoot place.

  3. #6578
    Quote Originally Posted by FireArrow  [View Original Post]
    Anyways. I went there at around 8 pm. I paid 750 K for 1 girl. Body-to-body massage, happy ending only, and no full service. Extra 400 k for BJ.

    After payment, I was escorted to another room with 10 girls in red lingerie. All around 6-8 in looks.

    Good experience but very expensive compared to the X houses.
    Was there once back in the days that it was named Swell Spa. I remember that you had to pay upfront before checking out the girls which I refused to do so.

    No way I'm paying that money before having a look what's available. After some back and forth they allowed me to look first before paying.

    At the end I don't find it worth to pay that money for a naked girl giving you a HJ.

    I'm the 750 k price range I've been thinking to check out" Ibiza Spa" which is on the bypass near Grandma's Hotel. Most likely not as "fancy" as Sway but at least you have FS. (Still more expensive than the X-houses) but interesting if you stay in a hotel near the airport. Unfortunately I haven't bit the bullet so far so can't share any experience. Not sure they show you a line up or that you pick from picture ls. Pretty sure they serve mainly local customers.

    Have read quite some reviews on an Indonesian forum (Kaskus) which are overall satisfying. So if you're adventurous and stay near the airport it might be something for whoever reads this.

  4. #6577

    Sway Spa

    I went to Sway Spa last night.

    Guys, make sure you use the main roads. Google got me going through super dark alleyways. I had to dodge street dogs and paths barely 1 m wide. Hairy stuff.

    Anyways. I went there at around 8 pm. I paid 750 K for 1 girl. Body-to-body massage, happy ending only, and no full service. Extra 400 k for BJ.

    Heaps of extras are offered. For example 2 girls for 1 M, Nuru gel 250 K.

    After payment, I was escorted to another room with 10 girls in red lingerie. All around 6-8 in looks.

    Nice massage with a cute girl.

    Afterward, mamasan asked me to rate her business on Google.

    Good experience but very expensive compared to the X houses.

  5. #6576
    Quote Originally Posted by VonderJohn  [View Original Post]
    Sorry for the ignorance, but what do you mean by jt? (1. 2 jt flight plus 1 jt spending money).

    My calculations show that a round trip flight Jakarta-Bali-Jakarta is around $135 (around 2. 1 million IDR) and let's say another 2 million IDR spending, that's a 4 million for a weekend including her flight.
    1 jt = 1 juta = 1 million rupiah.

    Maybe some conversion errors but Air Asia has flights leaving tomorrow for 1. 5 jt return. Spending money is a personal agreement based upon length of time and how hardcore she is.

    I've taken both girlfriends and casual partners. Best to meet face to face if you are going to Jakarta first. Online is definitely possible if you only going to Bali. Surabaya is another option. The flights are cheaper and shorter but there are less girls to choose from.

    Enjoy. G.

  6. #6575
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    BYOG is to BringYourOwnGirl from an area with lower prices and / or better service levels than the destination.

    A frequent visitor might source the girl from existing contacts or as a new found best friend. A new visitor typically sources them from an online meeting. Ideally she won't be a hardcore hooker but someone who is employed or studying and looking for a weekend away or unemployed available for a longer period.

    The financial justification is a 1. 2 jt flight plus 1 jt spending money for as long as the guy and girl agree vs 2. 5 jt for one hour for a half decent online girl in Bali.

    Service levels in Bali are universally poor* as the girls' main market is cashed up, gullible tourists. Hence there is no disincentive to over charge or under deliver. On the other hand, a junior accounts clerk will say thanks in all the right ways for some time away and possibly her first time in an airplane. (* Yes, there are exceptions. However most would agree that Bali hookers are some of the most hardened in Indonesia.).

    Note that this is not suitable for guys looking for a quicky but more for a guy looking to relax and have some fun over a few days or a week.

    I guess we should agree to disagree that the only option in Jakarta is fat 5's. That certainly isn't my experience.

    My basis for the above is bringing multiple girls to Bali, from elsewhere in Indonesia, and having a great time vs being quoted ridiculous prices from girls locally and then listening to numerous conditions and limitations.

    Enjoy. G.
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    BYOG is to BringYourOwnGirl from an area with lower prices and / or better service levels than the destination.

    A frequent visitor might source the girl from existing contacts or as a new found best friend. A new visitor typically sources them from an online meeting. Ideally she won't be a hardcore hooker but someone who is employed or studying and looking for a weekend away or unemployed available for a longer period.

    The financial justification is a 1. 2 jt flight plus 1 jt spending money for as long as the guy and girl agree vs 2. 5 jt for one hour for a half decent online girl in Bali.

    Service levels in Bali are universally poor* as the girls' main market is cashed up, gullible tourists. Hence there is no disincentive to over charge or under deliver. On the other hand, a junior accounts clerk will say thanks in all the right ways for some time away and possibly her first time in an airplane. (* Yes, there are exceptions. However most would agree that Bali hookers are some of the most hardened in Indonesia.).

    Note that this is not suitable for guys looking for a quicky but more for a guy looking to relax and have some fun over a few days or a week.

    I guess we should agree to disagree that the only option in Jakarta is fat 5's. That certainly isn't my experience.

    My basis for the above is bringing multiple girls to Bali, from elsewhere in Indonesia, and having a great time vs being quoted ridiculous prices from girls locally and then listening to numerous conditions and limitations.

    Enjoy. G.
    Thank you for the interesting explanation. And yes, I'm not the quickie guy. I'm the guy who's into having fun over a few days or a week. Which is why I look for quality not just in sex but also in company. Which is also why I look for ladies, not hookers. The 'girl next door' type, not the hardened sex worker which is probably infested with disease or a shitty attitude. Or both.

    Sorry for the ignorance, but what do you mean by jt? (1. 2 jt flight plus 1 jt spending money).

    My calculations show that a round trip flight Jakarta-Bali-Jakarta is around $135 (around 2. 1 million IDR) and let's say another 2 million IDR spending, that's a 4 million for a weekend including her flight.

    In comparison, I'd give a lady in Bali 1 million per day as a 'gift' in return for her time and effort. Last time I went to Bali I did that with a female driver. Hired her for the weekend to Ubud and banged her in the process. Paid her 1. 5 million for everything. Not sure if this is the rate today or things have changed.

    The BYO would work if I find a realllly good babe from Jakarta. I'm currently using Tinder for my search. I probably should use other options too, such as Badoo an WeChat. Or probably just go to Jakarta in person. Or are there other ways to find the best fish? Tinder is showing me fat 5's Where did you find the muultiple girl you brought to Bali? And was Jakarta your only target?

    Thanks in advance bro.

  7. #6574
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    BYOG is to BringYourOwnGirl from an area with lower prices and / or better service levels than the destination.

    A frequent visitor might source the girl from existing contacts or as a new found best friend. A new visitor typically sources them from an online meeting. Ideally she won't be a hardcore hooker but someone who is employed or studying and looking for a weekend away or unemployed available for a longer period.

    The financial justification is a 1. 2 jt flight plus 1 jt spending money for as long as the guy and girl agree vs 2. 5 jt for one hour for a half decent online girl in Bali.

    Service levels in Bali are universally poor* as the girls' main market is cashed up, gullible tourists. Hence there is no disincentive to over charge or under deliver. On the other hand, a junior accounts clerk will say thanks in all the right ways for some time away and possibly her first time in an airplane. (* Yes, there are exceptions. However most would agree that Bali hookers are some of the most hardened in Indonesia.).

    Note that this is not suitable for guys looking for a quicky but more for a guy looking to relax and have some fun over a few days or a week.

    I guess we should agree to disagree that the only option in Jakarta is fat 5's. That certainly isn't my experience.

    My basis for the above is bringing multiple girls to Bali, from elsewhere in Indonesia, and having a great time vs being quoted ridiculous prices from girls locally and then listening to numerous conditions and limitations.

    Enjoy. G.
    Thank you for the interesting explanation. And yes, I'm not the quickie guy. I'm the guy who's into having fun over a few days or a week. Which is why I look for quality not just in sex but also in company. Which is also why I look for ladies, not hookers. The 'girl next door' type, not the hardened sex worker which is probably infested with disease or a shitty attitude. Or both.

    Sorry for the ignorance, but what do you mean by jt? (1. 2 jt flight plus 1 jt spending money).

    My calculations show that a round trip flight Jakarta-Bali-Jakarta is around $135 (around 2. 1 million IDR) and let's say another 2 million IDR spending, that's a 4 million for a weekend including her flight.

    In comparison, I'd give a lady in Bali 1 million per day as a 'gift' in return for her time and effort. Last time I went to Bali I did that with a female driver. Hired her for the weekend to Ubud and banged her in the process. Paid her 1. 5 million for everything. Not sure if this is the rate today or things have changed.

    The BYO would work if I find a realllly good babe from Jakarta. I'm currently using Tinder for my search. I probably should use other options too, such as Badoo an WeChat. Or probably just go to Jakarta in person. Or are there other ways to find the best fish? Tinder is showing me fat 5's Where did you find the muultiple girl you brought to Bali? And was Jakarta your only target?

    Thanks in advance bro.

  8. #6573
    Quote Originally Posted by EsinburghMan1  [View Original Post]
    Could you recommend where in Jakarta to look for BYO?
    Quote Originally Posted by VonderJohn  [View Original Post]
    Sorry but what is a BYO?

    As I understood from your point: paying for a return ticket for a lady from Jakarta, is a better deal than dating one from Bali? How so??

    The ladies in Jakarta are mostly veiled, looking for serious relationships, not so good looking and fairly curvy, compared to the ones in Bali.

    My reference is dating apps like Tinder, Badoo and others. Plus the random ladies in the clubs.

    I don't see how paying for a ticket for a Jakarta lady that is barely a 5/10 to come to Bali is a better bet than mongering with the ones in Bali. Not sure what's your basis for that argument.
    BYOG is to BringYourOwnGirl from an area with lower prices and / or better service levels than the destination.

    A frequent visitor might source the girl from existing contacts or as a new found best friend. A new visitor typically sources them from an online meeting. Ideally she won't be a hardcore hooker but someone who is employed or studying and looking for a weekend away or unemployed available for a longer period.

    The financial justification is a 1. 2 jt flight plus 1 jt spending money for as long as the guy and girl agree vs 2. 5 jt for one hour for a half decent online girl in Bali.

    Service levels in Bali are universally poor* as the girls' main market is cashed up, gullible tourists. Hence there is no disincentive to over charge or under deliver. On the other hand, a junior accounts clerk will say thanks in all the right ways for some time away and possibly her first time in an airplane. (* Yes, there are exceptions. However most would agree that Bali hookers are some of the most hardened in Indonesia.).

    Note that this is not suitable for guys looking for a quicky but more for a guy looking to relax and have some fun over a few days or a week.

    I guess we should agree to disagree that the only option in Jakarta is fat 5's. That certainly isn't my experience.

    My basis for the above is bringing multiple girls to Bali, from elsewhere in Indonesia, and having a great time vs being quoted ridiculous prices from girls locally and then listening to numerous conditions and limitations.

    Enjoy. G.

  9. #6572

    Questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    It's been said many times here that the best mongering in Bali is to BYO. Even if already in Bali, it would be cheaper and better service to fly someone in from Jakarta. A weekend's fun would still be less than a half decent tinder girl.

    For a quiet HJ that the missus won't suspect just go to the massage places off JL Legian or Dukung Sari. Or break free for a couple of hours and go to Delta.
    Could you recommend where in Jakarta to look for BYO?

  10. #6571
    Quote Originally Posted by Jingo10  [View Original Post]
    This rainy season has had more rain the usual, it has been very unpredictable but should be ending now.

    There is no low season for ladies, if you are here for two weeks it is always difficult. Don't come to Bali purely for girls. Do 70% tourism and 30% girl chasing.

    I personally don't think ubud is the best location for rain or girls (but I'm no expert on Ubud). Most online girls are around kuta, Seminyak, Denpasar areas. I don't like the kuta side so I prefer sanur.
    Yes, well I usually spend my time 50% tourism and 50% mongering. In fact, it would be more fun to go into tourism with a girl you're banging.

    Why isn't Ubud a good location for girls? From what I heard, Ubud is full of of single / divorced MILFs who are doing Yoga and open for experiences. Or am I wrong?

  11. #6570
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    It's been said many times here that the best mongering in Bali is to BYO. Even if already in Bali, it would be cheaper and better service to fly someone in from Jakarta. A weekend's fun would still be less than a half decent tinder girl.

    For a quiet HJ that the missus won't suspect just go to the massage places off JL Legian or Dukung Sari. Or break free for a couple of hours and go to Delta.
    Sorry but what is a BYO?

    As I understood from your point: paying for a return ticket for a lady from Jakarta, is a better deal than dating one from Bali? How so??

    The ladies in Jakarta are mostly veiled, looking for serious relationships, not so good looking and fairly curvy, compared to the ones in Bali.

    My reference is dating apps like Tinder, Badoo and others. Plus the random ladies in the clubs.

    I don't see how paying for a ticket for a Jakarta lady that is barely a 5/10 to come to Bali is a better bet than mongering with the ones in Bali. Not sure what's your basis for that argument.

  12. #6569
    Quote Originally Posted by PlayMe  [View Original Post]
    Hi all,

    Traveling to Bali in 3 weeks. Don't have time to go through the forums. Any quick pointers on how to monger. What are the going rates will be of great help!

    Thanks in advance.
    Sure.

    1/. Find hookers.

    2/. Pay money.

    3/. Get laid.

    Enjoy. G.

  13. #6568

    Pointers needed

    Hi all,

    Traveling to Bali in 3 weeks. Don't have time to go through the forums. Any quick pointers on how to monger. What are the going rates will be of great help!

    Thanks in advance.

  14. #6567
    Quote Originally Posted by BenderOver  [View Original Post]
    Some of the best mongering I've ever done has been in Bali, but this statement is true generally speaking. You'll have a much easier time in Bali if you let yourself adjust to the destination pricing. Take your Jakarta budget and triple it. You'll fall in love with the place.
    It's been said many times here that the best mongering in Bali is to BYO. Even if already in Bali, it would be cheaper and better service to fly someone in from Jakarta. A weekend's fun would still be less than a half decent tinder girl.

    For a quiet HJ that the missus won't suspect just go to the massage places off JL Legian or Dukung Sari. Or break free for a couple of hours and go to Delta.

  15. #6566
    Quote Originally Posted by ThrowInAway456  [View Original Post]
    This is a really great and helpful summary, but also depressing.

    I just want to go in to a fairly run-of-the-mill shop and get a massage that ends with a HJ.

    Not a brothel, not sex, just a descent massage with relief, ideally in Seminyak, Kuta.

    The kind of place the missus wouldn't twig to.

    🥹.
    Some of the best mongering I've ever done has been in Bali, but this statement is true generally speaking. You'll have a much easier time in Bali if you let yourself adjust to the destination pricing. Take your Jakarta budget and triple it. You'll fall in love with the place.

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