Bali

[VonderJohn]

BYOG is to BringYourOwnGirl from an area with lower prices and / or better service levels than the destination.

A frequent visitor might source the girl from existing contacts or as a new found best friend. A new visitor typically sources them from an online meeting. Ideally she won't be a hardcore hooker but someone who is employed or studying and looking for a weekend away or unemployed available for a longer period.

The financial justification is a 1. 2 jt flight plus 1 jt spending money for as long as the guy and girl agree vs 2. 5 jt for one hour for a half decent online girl in Bali.

Service levels in Bali are universally poor* as the girls' main market is cashed up, gullible tourists. Hence there is no disincentive to over charge or under deliver. On the other hand, a junior accounts clerk will say thanks in all the right ways for some time away and possibly her first time in an airplane. (* Yes, there are exceptions. However most would agree that Bali hookers are some of the most hardened in Indonesia.).

Note that this is not suitable for guys looking for a quicky but more for a guy looking to relax and have some fun over a few days or a week.

I guess we should agree to disagree that the only option in Jakarta is fat 5's. That certainly isn't my experience.

My basis for the above is bringing multiple girls to Bali, from elsewhere in Indonesia, and having a great time vs being quoted ridiculous prices from girls locally and then listening to numerous conditions and limitations.

Enjoy. G.

BYOG is to BringYourOwnGirl from an area with lower prices and / or better service levels than the destination.

A frequent visitor might source the girl from existing contacts or as a new found best friend. A new visitor typically sources them from an online meeting. Ideally she won't be a hardcore hooker but someone who is employed or studying and looking for a weekend away or unemployed available for a longer period.

The financial justification is a 1. 2 jt flight plus 1 jt spending money for as long as the guy and girl agree vs 2. 5 jt for one hour for a half decent online girl in Bali.

Service levels in Bali are universally poor* as the girls' main market is cashed up, gullible tourists. Hence there is no disincentive to over charge or under deliver. On the other hand, a junior accounts clerk will say thanks in all the right ways for some time away and possibly her first time in an airplane. (* Yes, there are exceptions. However most would agree that Bali hookers are some of the most hardened in Indonesia.).

Note that this is not suitable for guys looking for a quicky but more for a guy looking to relax and have some fun over a few days or a week.

I guess we should agree to disagree that the only option in Jakarta is fat 5's. That certainly isn't my experience.

My basis for the above is bringing multiple girls to Bali, from elsewhere in Indonesia, and having a great time vs being quoted ridiculous prices from girls locally and then listening to numerous conditions and limitations.

Enjoy. G.

Thank you for the interesting explanation. And yes, I'm not the quickie guy. I'm the guy who's into having fun over a few days or a week. Which is why I look for quality not just in sex but also in company. Which is also why I look for ladies, not hookers. The 'girl next door' type, not the hardened sex worker which is probably infested with disease or a shitty attitude. Or both.

Sorry for the ignorance, but what do you mean by jt? (1. 2 jt flight plus 1 jt spending money).

My calculations show that a round trip flight Jakarta-Bali-Jakarta is around $135 (around 2. 1 million IDR) and let's say another 2 million IDR spending, that's a 4 million for a weekend including her flight.

In comparison, I'd give a lady in Bali 1 million per day as a 'gift' in return for her time and effort. Last time I went to Bali I did that with a female driver. Hired her for the weekend to Ubud and banged her in the process. Paid her 1. 5 million for everything. Not sure if this is the rate today or things have changed.

The BYO would work if I find a realllly good babe from Jakarta. I'm currently using Tinder for my search. I probably should use other options too, such as Badoo an WeChat. Or probably just go to Jakarta in person. Or are there other ways to find the best fish? Tinder is showing me fat 5's Where did you find the muultiple girl you brought to Bali? And was Jakarta your only target?

Thanks in advance bro.

[VonderJohn]

BYOG is to BringYourOwnGirl from an area with lower prices and / or better service levels than the destination.

A frequent visitor might source the girl from existing contacts or as a new found best friend. A new visitor typically sources them from an online meeting. Ideally she won't be a hardcore hooker but someone who is employed or studying and looking for a weekend away or unemployed available for a longer period.

The financial justification is a 1. 2 jt flight plus 1 jt spending money for as long as the guy and girl agree vs 2. 5 jt for one hour for a half decent online girl in Bali.

Service levels in Bali are universally poor* as the girls' main market is cashed up, gullible tourists. Hence there is no disincentive to over charge or under deliver. On the other hand, a junior accounts clerk will say thanks in all the right ways for some time away and possibly her first time in an airplane. (* Yes, there are exceptions. However most would agree that Bali hookers are some of the most hardened in Indonesia.).

Note that this is not suitable for guys looking for a quicky but more for a guy looking to relax and have some fun over a few days or a week.

I guess we should agree to disagree that the only option in Jakarta is fat 5's. That certainly isn't my experience.

My basis for the above is bringing multiple girls to Bali, from elsewhere in Indonesia, and having a great time vs being quoted ridiculous prices from girls locally and then listening to numerous conditions and limitations.

Enjoy. G.

Thank you for the interesting explanation. And yes, I'm not the quickie guy. I'm the guy who's into having fun over a few days or a week. Which is why I look for quality not just in sex but also in company. Which is also why I look for ladies, not hookers. The 'girl next door' type, not the hardened sex worker which is probably infested with disease or a shitty attitude. Or both.

Sorry for the ignorance, but what do you mean by jt? (1. 2 jt flight plus 1 jt spending money).

My calculations show that a round trip flight Jakarta-Bali-Jakarta is around $135 (around 2. 1 million IDR) and let's say another 2 million IDR spending, that's a 4 million for a weekend including her flight.

In comparison, I'd give a lady in Bali 1 million per day as a 'gift' in return for her time and effort. Last time I went to Bali I did that with a female driver. Hired her for the weekend to Ubud and banged her in the process. Paid her 1. 5 million for everything. Not sure if this is the rate today or things have changed.

The BYO would work if I find a realllly good babe from Jakarta. I'm currently using Tinder for my search. I probably should use other options too, such as Badoo an WeChat. Or probably just go to Jakarta in person. Or are there other ways to find the best fish? Tinder is showing me fat 5's Where did you find the muultiple girl you brought to Bali? And was Jakarta your only target?

Thanks in advance bro.

[Goferring]

Could you recommend where in Jakarta to look for BYO?

Sorry but what is a BYO?

As I understood from your point: paying for a return ticket for a lady from Jakarta, is a better deal than dating one from Bali? How so??

The ladies in Jakarta are mostly veiled, looking for serious relationships, not so good looking and fairly curvy, compared to the ones in Bali.

My reference is dating apps like Tinder, Badoo and others. Plus the random ladies in the clubs.

I don't see how paying for a ticket for a Jakarta lady that is barely a 5/10 to come to Bali is a better bet than mongering with the ones in Bali. Not sure what's your basis for that argument.

BYOG is to BringYourOwnGirl from an area with lower prices and / or better service levels than the destination.

A frequent visitor might source the girl from existing contacts or as a new found best friend. A new visitor typically sources them from an online meeting. Ideally she won't be a hardcore hooker but someone who is employed or studying and looking for a weekend away or unemployed available for a longer period.

The financial justification is a 1. 2 jt flight plus 1 jt spending money for as long as the guy and girl agree vs 2. 5 jt for one hour for a half decent online girl in Bali.

Service levels in Bali are universally poor* as the girls' main market is cashed up, gullible tourists. Hence there is no disincentive to over charge or under deliver. On the other hand, a junior accounts clerk will say thanks in all the right ways for some time away and possibly her first time in an airplane. (* Yes, there are exceptions. However most would agree that Bali hookers are some of the most hardened in Indonesia.).

Note that this is not suitable for guys looking for a quicky but more for a guy looking to relax and have some fun over a few days or a week.

I guess we should agree to disagree that the only option in Jakarta is fat 5's. That certainly isn't my experience.

My basis for the above is bringing multiple girls to Bali, from elsewhere in Indonesia, and having a great time vs being quoted ridiculous prices from girls locally and then listening to numerous conditions and limitations.

Enjoy. G.

[EsinburghMan1]

It's been said many times here that the best mongering in Bali is to BYO. Even if already in Bali, it would be cheaper and better service to fly someone in from Jakarta. A weekend's fun would still be less than a half decent tinder girl.

For a quiet HJ that the missus won't suspect just go to the massage places off JL Legian or Dukung Sari. Or break free for a couple of hours and go to Delta.

Could you recommend where in Jakarta to look for BYO?

[VonderJohn]

This rainy season has had more rain the usual, it has been very unpredictable but should be ending now.

There is no low season for ladies, if you are here for two weeks it is always difficult. Don't come to Bali purely for girls. Do 70% tourism and 30% girl chasing.

I personally don't think ubud is the best location for rain or girls (but I'm no expert on Ubud). Most online girls are around kuta, Seminyak, Denpasar areas. I don't like the kuta side so I prefer sanur.

Yes, well I usually spend my time 50% tourism and 50% mongering. In fact, it would be more fun to go into tourism with a girl you're banging.

Why isn't Ubud a good location for girls? From what I heard, Ubud is full of of single / divorced MILFs who are doing Yoga and open for experiences. Or am I wrong?

[VonderJohn]

It's been said many times here that the best mongering in Bali is to BYO. Even if already in Bali, it would be cheaper and better service to fly someone in from Jakarta. A weekend's fun would still be less than a half decent tinder girl.

For a quiet HJ that the missus won't suspect just go to the massage places off JL Legian or Dukung Sari. Or break free for a couple of hours and go to Delta.

Sorry but what is a BYO?

As I understood from your point: paying for a return ticket for a lady from Jakarta, is a better deal than dating one from Bali? How so??

The ladies in Jakarta are mostly veiled, looking for serious relationships, not so good looking and fairly curvy, compared to the ones in Bali.

My reference is dating apps like Tinder, Badoo and others. Plus the random ladies in the clubs.

I don't see how paying for a ticket for a Jakarta lady that is barely a 5/10 to come to Bali is a better bet than mongering with the ones in Bali. Not sure what's your basis for that argument.

[Goferring]

Hi all,

Traveling to Bali in 3 weeks. Don't have time to go through the forums. Any quick pointers on how to monger. What are the going rates will be of great help!

Thanks in advance.

Sure.

1/. Find hookers.

2/. Pay money.

3/. Get laid.

Enjoy. G.

[PlayMe]

Hi all,

Traveling to Bali in 3 weeks. Don't have time to go through the forums. Any quick pointers on how to monger. What are the going rates will be of great help!

Thanks in advance.

[Goferring]

Some of the best mongering I've ever done has been in Bali, but this statement is true generally speaking. You'll have a much easier time in Bali if you let yourself adjust to the destination pricing. Take your Jakarta budget and triple it. You'll fall in love with the place.

It's been said many times here that the best mongering in Bali is to BYO. Even if already in Bali, it would be cheaper and better service to fly someone in from Jakarta. A weekend's fun would still be less than a half decent tinder girl.

For a quiet HJ that the missus won't suspect just go to the massage places off JL Legian or Dukung Sari. Or break free for a couple of hours and go to Delta.

[BenderOver]

This is a really great and helpful summary, but also depressing.

I just want to go in to a fairly run-of-the-mill shop and get a massage that ends with a HJ.

Not a brothel, not sex, just a descent massage with relief, ideally in Seminyak, Kuta.

The kind of place the missus wouldn't twig to.

🥹.

Some of the best mongering I've ever done has been in Bali, but this statement is true generally speaking. You'll have a much easier time in Bali if you let yourself adjust to the destination pricing. Take your Jakarta budget and triple it. You'll fall in love with the place.

[ThrowInAway456]

Bali is the worst place I've been in my life to find / meet good professionals.

Internet: they are almost non existent apart from Twitter (use hashtag #availbali) but you try to speak with these women and they take AGES to reply back and request for an advanced deposit to be made. I don't care how trustworthy this is for the locals, I've never made an advance deposit nor I'm going to do one.

Spent 1 day speaking or trying to interact with 10 professionals, only 1 (was I really interested in the professional (from pictures) and at the end she couldn't meet or something, all other 9 horrible conversations, not moving forward, not replying, nothing.

Apps: if you're a western there's loads of women that will match with you. But not a lot of young hotties (some still). Unlike in Thailand they don't say in their profiles that they are freelancers (because it's illegal) so you never know when speaking with women on apps. And when you speak with them on apps it's very hard. They take ages to reply, when you finally make it to WhatsApp it then takes as well ages to reply.

Street: streetwalkers very very low quality, and you have no idea where they are going to take you. Bike drivers I think it's insane and stupid to be using a bike driver to get you chicks.

Spas: I haven't done, but most reviews I've read reference it's mostly only handjobs or blowjobs but no fucking. Like seriously?

Clubs: I've heard from a couple of sources about ShiShi, went there. Yes, there might be some. But you're in a normal club with normal Aussy parties going on next to you. You can't ear people when you speak because of the loud music. There are more women in the 40+ range than in the 25 range. But tell me this: I need to go to a club, speak with random chicks that might be or not be professionals or might not be interested in me, need to convince them, take them home / hotel and at the end I need to pay?! I'm paying exactly not to have to go through all of this faff!

Forget it. Better options in Asia, better options in Europe, better options in South America.

This is a really great and helpful summary, but also depressing.

I just want to go in to a fairly run-of-the-mill shop and get a massage that ends with a HJ.

Not a brothel, not sex, just a descent massage with relief, ideally in Seminyak, Kuta.

The kind of place the missus wouldn't twig to.

🥹.

[Jingo10]

I'm thinking of visiting Bali next month, but I have mixed feelings about it:

The good: I get better deals in flights, hotels and other services given that it is a low season. I also get more local ladies available, also given the low season and relatively low number of tourists. Also, less crowded places.

The bad: The weather is very shitty. Rainy most of the time everyday. If not rainy, it is cloudy and gloomy. .

This rainy season has had more rain the usual, it has been very unpredictable but should be ending now.

There is no low season for ladies, if you are here for two weeks it is always difficult. Don't come to Bali purely for girls. Do 70% tourism and 30% girl chasing.

I personally don't think ubud is the best location for rain or girls (but I'm no expert on Ubud). Most online girls are around kuta, Seminyak, Denpasar areas. I don't like the kuta side so I prefer sanur.

[CodeName47]

Last point is that Balinese girls are not that into sleeping with tourists so there are not hordes of local girls at any time unless you look like Tom Cruise.your target audience is more likely Javanese or other holidaymakers.

It is hard to get balinese girls just for dating. I had better experiences in other places Jakarta and other cities.

[Offshore Swell]

I'm thinking of visiting Bali next month, but I have mixed feelings about it:

The good: I get better deals in flights, hotels and other services given that it is a low season. I also get more local ladies available, also given the low season and relatively low number of tourists. Also, less crowded places.

The bad: The weather is very shitty. Rainy most of the time everyday. If not rainy, it is cloudy and gloomy. Puts many limitations on what youu can do and where you can go (beach is out of the question and so are most outdoors). So I'd imagine myself spending most of time inside some apartment in Ubud all day and dating around in the evening.

Do I have the right impression or the wrong one?

If it's not the right time to visit, when would be a good time that provides a balance of weather and reasonable prices without being in the middle of the peak season?

Feedback appreciated.

Umm!. The wet season is nearly over. By next month it should be done.

You could stay in your apartment in Ubud at any time and you probably wouldn't be going to the beach much. Actually your questions are pretty hard to answer as you seem to have talked yourself out of the holiday anyway.

Last point is that Balinese girls are not that into sleeping with tourists so there are not hordes of local girls at any time unless you look like Tom Cruise.your target audience is more likely Javanese or other holidaymakers.

[VonderJohn]

I'm thinking of visiting Bali next month, but I have mixed feelings about it:

The good: I get better deals in flights, hotels and other services given that it is a low season. I also get more local ladies available, also given the low season and relatively low number of tourists. Also, less crowded places.

The bad: The weather is very shitty. Rainy most of the time everyday. If not rainy, it is cloudy and gloomy. Puts many limitations on what youu can do and where you can go (beach is out of the question and so are most outdoors). So I'd imagine myself spending most of time inside some apartment in Ubud all day and dating around in the evening.

Do I have the right impression or the wrong one?

If it's not the right time to visit, when would be a good time that provides a balance of weather and reasonable prices without being in the middle of the peak season?

Feedback appreciated.