Bali

[1Ball]

Phantom, the most corrupt country in the world is Nigeria, and Indonesia is trying hard to become number 1, but you have to give it to the Nigerians, they are very good at what they do.

IMO, a motorbike really is the only way to go, as long as you drive responsibly. traffic can be absolute gridlock, and what would take you 15 minutes on a bike would take an hour in a car. There are many small "gang" here, which mean small streets or alleys, where cars cannot enter, but they are a maze of little lanes which allow you to take shortcuts everywhere, which is great when the streets are full of cars. And don't worry about the polisi, you most probably will not get pulled over. I saw a funny thing yesterday, though it happens daily. A cop tried to pull over a guy in a car who had made a left on a red, and as he waved the driver of the car down, the driver waved back, and just sped away. The cop just walked back to his post, unfazed. Win some, lose some.

If you are under 60 years old, stay in Legian, kuta is 10 minutes away, and Legian is less crowded. Google different Bali hotel sites, and you will find things for under 30$. Staying in sanur is for families and old people.

Bali to Surabaya by bus? I would rather kill myself. Take the plane. Not only lion air, but many others, no problem buying your ticket the day before, there will be many choices. (everyone smokes on the bus, and they have a big TV, blaring music at 3 million decibels. Quite a few indonesian people do not wear deodorant. enough said).

somone posted an excellent map of Sanur and the X houses maybe a year ago. it might take a while, but if you look back, just scroll up or down each page, until you see an attachment. One of those attachments will be a map.

Lastly, if you are the adventurous kind, with not too much luggage, and depending on your arrival time, you could get into a taxi, ask the guy to take you to the bali bomb site, and walk around looking for a hotel. Dozens within 5 minutes of the bomb memorial, inexpensive. you can then see the room for yourself, and decide. Dozens of bars within 5 minutes of the bomb memorial.

Hope this helps.

[LongRange]

1)Still conflicted as where I should make my home base once I reach Bali.

Having read this thread going back about 1 year, I can't decide if I should stay at Kuta and make trips to Sanur or Sem. Etc.

So far, had thoughts about staying in Sanur, sounded good having read about the X-shops, but Kuta seems to have much cheaper hotel deals on-line so maybe able to save some money there? Just looking for a decent place to stay, clean and safe with private bathroom and hot water is all I need. If place is within walking distance to brothels then that's a plus also. Not having to rely on transportation for a f**k is always a bonus.

Any recommended places in this category, PM me if you like..-thanks.

Think someone else (Shark) ask something similar but didn't see a reply.

2)Also Not sure of the public bus situation traveling between the above places. Cost of trips, how long the ride and most important, what time the bus service ends at nite?

(had plan to rent motobike but not may not be worth all the hassle of bribes etc..-as 1Ball noted: the 2nd most corrupt country--so which country is #1? )

3)Also interested in visiting Surabaya after Bali to visit the infamous Dollyland, Read somewhere a bus can get you there but not sure from where in Bali or how often bus leaves or length of time to get there. Anyone ever tried this route before can let me know. Also list what the cost of this travel.

If anyone from Bali have good recommendations on cheap/decent places to stay here (Surabaya) will also be appreciated. Again, PM me if you like.

4)Lastly, not an expert on search engines etc. Tried my best to get detail street maps of Bali, mainly Sanur and Kuta etc. And pehaps Surabaya but only able to print the generic tourist maps of Bali, listing a few big hotels, a few streets etc, but nothing in detail to find mongering sites.

Anyone have a good website for Asian maps that can be downloaded?

Thanks in advance and maybe hope to see some of you guys there.

Cheers,

PT

As regards travelling from Bali to Surabaya, use the following link for Lionair, a low cost airline, they have flight to Surabaya from Bali (DPS) from 357000 idr, https://booking. Lionair.co.id/lionair/ListSched.asp.

There are shuttle buses advertised from Kuta to Sanur and Denpasar, but I have not used them, but maybe worth a look.

Hope that helps

[Phantomtiger2]

1)Still conflicted as where I should make my home base once I reach Bali.
Having read this thread going back about 1 year, I can't decide if I should stay at Kuta and make trips to Sanur or Sem. etc
So far, had thoughts about staying in Sanur, sounded good having read about the X-shops, but Kuta seems to have much cheaper hotel deals on-line so maybe able to save some money there? Just looking for a decent place to stay, clean and safe with private bathroom and hot water is all I need. If place is within walking distance to brothels then that's a plus also. Not having to rely on transportation for a f**k is always a bonus.
Any recommended places in this category, PM me if you like.--thanks
Think someone else (Shark) ask something similar but didn't see a reply.

2)Also Not sure of the public bus situation traveling between the above places.
Cost of trips, how long the ride and most important, what time the bus service ends at nite?
(had plan to rent motobike but not may not be worth all the hassle of bribes etc.--as 1Ball noted: the 2nd most corrupt country--so which country is #1?)

3)Also interested in visiting Surabaya after Bali to visit the infamous Dollyland,
Read somewhere a bus can get you there but not sure from where in Bali or how often bus leaves or length of time to get there. Anyone ever tried this route before can let me know. Also list what the cost of this travel.
If anyone from Bali have good recommendations on cheap/decent places to stay here(Surabaya) will also be appreciated. Again, PM me if you like.

4)Lastly, not an expert on search engines etc. Tried my best to get detail street maps of Bali, mainly Sanur and Kuta etc. and pehaps Surabaya but only able to print the generic tourist maps of Bali, listing a few big hotels, a few streets etc, but nothing in detail to find mongering sites.
Anyone have a good website for Asian maps that can be downloaded?


Thanks in advance and maybe hope to see some of you guys there.

Cheers'
PT

[1Ball]

Good one Mark III, can you elaborate on how you extended it for 4 years, without it being obvious?

A couple of years ago, my license expired beofre I had a chance to renew it, so I just threw it in the swimming pool for 10 minutes, it came out soggy, the date was a smear, but my smilling face was still there. it looked like a legitimate mistake to me, and luckily the cop who stopped me a week later just smiled when I told him I was so stupid to go swimming with my license in my pocket. He was more interested in hearing the triple horns I had just installed on my bike, which still, BTW, have zero effect on people ahead of me, when I blast it. It's like they are deaf, if someone came up behind me and blasted those things, I would jump out of my skin

[MarkIII]

Lets stay on topic. I guess we have other forums and travel guides for general travel questions.

But talking about a International Driver's license (IDL) it is valid for 1 year. I took a date stamp from my office and I extended it myself for 4 years. No questions asked when I was stopped, the police man could not even read the license I guess (it is not valid for a motor ;-) he thanked me for showing it and I was on my way again. And I paid Rp 20.000 for the motorbike last year.

MarkIII

[Ozirob]

Scooters - recently rented a scooter from along the street in Seminyak, 30k a day for 3 days. Used it extensively, riding from there to Kuta and Sanur. I was pulled over at one intersection and had to go through the charade of being told i would need to go to court.... however i could pay 100k and be on my way. I knew that 50 to 75 was the going rate for non Indonesians, explained that i only had 75k on me, which was accepted.
Smiles in both directions throughout the transaction. No problems!

Changing money - My wife simply cannot get it through her head that if the rate is to good to be true then it isn't true! (The golden rule for all investment schemes). She would insist that she was on top of their game, but each of the 3 times she tried she was done like a dinner!! Don't bother trying to change if the rate is too high, or they start trying to give you a heap of 20k notes. pickup your A$, Euro or US$ and walk away. TIP: check your original stake before you walk away, these guys are so good you will find yourself taking away less than you gave them even if you changed nothing!
Ozirob

[1Ball]

One more thing. Always use your own calculator when changing money especially to the places offering better rate. They use fixed calculators and you end up with much less money than you should. Happened to a friend of mine.

This is somEthing that makes me crazy, the thieves at some fly by night foreign exchange.
Typically, it will be a very small shop, with a desk which is as high as your chest, and 2 guys will start chatting away, to distract you, so they can rip you off. If a place is offering a much better rate than others, DO NO TRY TO BEAT THEM AT THEIR GAME, these guys are pros. Do not let anyone touch your money once they have counted it in front of you.

best rule of thumb is, if it looks legit, and if they write out a receipt for the transaction, then it is safe. IF NOT, DO NOT DO BUSINESS THERE, YOU WILL LOSE.

[1Ball]

Phantom, tiger makes a very good point. International licenses are required, HOWEVER, since Indonesia is the second most corrupt country in the world, (they keep trying to be number 1), paying off the local polisi with a blue bill actually, which is 50,000 rps, or about 4.50 USD, is the way to go. Do not rent from the hotel, just walk arounbd, you will se dozens of bikes parked on the street with a sign on them, for rent. You will probably be asked for 50,000 per day, but the going rate is 30,000. Since it is very quiet right now, you will be fine paying 30,000 especically for multiple days.

One last word on the int'l license. a friend got a fake one, and paid a bigger fine than if he just told the polisi he sisnt have one. They don't like to be made fun of. I have one, a real one, motorcycle endorsed, and when they see it, they don't bother me at all.

good luck.

someone asked about beaches and clarity of water. The South of Bali isn't known for calm clear water, you need to go up north for that, but I just got back from Lovina today, and it is nasty. Rainy season, big waves, lots of wind. Best time for that is May through october.

hope this helps

[Lama Di Bali]

Although I said the International Driver's License (IDL) is worthless for a moto rider if it is not motorcycle endorsed, I want to emphasize that it is golden if it is motorcycle endorsed. Also, it is golden for driving a car.The good thing about an IDL is: it is valid for one year and transcends international boundaries, so if you travel much, and like to drive yourself, it is much better to have an IDL than re-license every new country you visit.

Mongers on their way to Bali via Bangkok can pick up a perfectly adequate (though false) International Drivers License good for cars and bikes in Khao San Road. Most have 10 years validity.

It's better to have one if you're intending to drive in Bali.

Yes you can get an official one at one of two big police stations in Denpasar, but getting it can be a half day ordeal including travel time.

You can get the letter referred to by Randsurfer at (some) police stations, but only if the cops have enough English to know what you're asking for, or if your Indonesian is up to it.

There are very frequent "sweeping" road blocks where all drivers are stopped and their licenses and registration papers checked. Westerners are manna from heaven for the cops since most are unlicensed. Depending on the cop's greed, you might get stung anything up to 100,000 rupiah, about $US10.

Westerners in cars and on bikes are also pulled over at random, especially if they look like they are new arrivals, in the hope that "on-the-spot fines" can be levied.

Some cops will scribble you a note which ostensibly you can show to other cops that pull you over so you are exempt from being stung, but these are often ignored.

And I know any number of people who have been hit several times over a two week holiday.

So if you're coming through Bangkok, take half an hour out of your day and get a plastic international drivers permit in Khao San Road.

[Randsurfer]

Although I said the International Driver's License (IDL) is worthless for a moto rider if it is not motorcycle endorsed, I want to emphasize that it is golden if it is motorcycle endorsed.

Also, it is golden for driving a car.

The good thing about an IDL is: it is valid for one year and transcends international boundaries, so if you travel much, and like to drive yourself, it is much better to have an IDL than re-license every new country you visit.

[Phantomtiger2]

Licenses:

1. You can bring a suitable license with you from your home country, which means, an "international drivers License" (IDL). In USA the rights to issue those belong to AAA auto service. I'm sure you can do a Google to find the authority in your country. If you want to drive a motorbike in Bali, the International License is worthless without having the motorcycle endorsement stamped. That will only happen if you are licensed for a motorcycle on your home driver's license. If you are stopped and have the IDL but not motorcycle endorsed, that is the same as having no license.

2. You can get a license in Bali. I go to a Police Station on the way to the Uluwatu surfing beaches, but I'm sure it can be done elsewhere. I go in and tell the policeman on duty I want to drive a motorbike for xx days and I'd like to get a license, "is this possible"? He will say yes, and get out a somewhat official form, and fill it out by hand. This form is your license. You will need your home driver's license he can copy some info from and it wouldn't hurt to have your passport too, that he can refer too, but he won't keep either of these items. After this, carry only the local license form. Do not carry or show your home license.

YOUR HOME LICENSE DOES NOT NEED TO BE MOTORCYCLE ENDORSED to get this local motorbike license. You should pay him 150K rupiah, which is comparable to the cost of the international license anyway.

Thanks Randsurfer for the details and enlighten rules of motorental,
As I suspected and suggested, the International Drivers License was always a worthless piece of paper when trying to rent motos almost everywhere I tried to use it in the past (going back more than 10 years and in many countries) which is why I no longer bother with it.

thanks for the info.


PT

[Dom Perignon]

Much easier from all the side. Hahahaha not just one side.

Just keep on looking for it. Many of them will try, even for the first time, if they like you, if you not hurt them while you do it and if you pay the right amount of money!

Enjoy

Ildom

P.S. April in kuta timur massage provides anal. For example.

Getting anal all depends on the provider. Bali is not like Bangkok where one place or another specializes in these things. The best thing i think is to try one of the so called X-houses in Sanur and ask whom ever is working the front area, but a lot of the girls are malu (shy) and might not want to admit this in front of the other girls. I'm not fond of anal, as it's the #1 way that AID's is transmitted. Many of the Indo girls also complain that Westerners are too big, so this compounds your difficulty. It's there, I've had friends tell me, but it won't be easy finding it. While we're on the subject I once heard that it's much easier for the girl (in this case) to take it, if she's on her side, which is why doctors put their patients on their sides for rectal exams.

- jF


As a new member I don't expect much attention from the senior but I there any one to tell me if there is any way to get anal in Bali?

I already get kick off twice and I don't want to get burn every were in Bali

Please can any one help me.

[/QUOTE]

[Mick 79]

Thank you for your time and attention.

Yes the forum is still alive.

Getting anal all depends on the provider. Bali is not like Bangkok where one place or another specializes in these things. The best thing i think is to try one of the so called X-houses in Sanur and ask whom ever is working the front area, but a lot of the girls are malu (shy) and might not want to admit this in front of the other girls. I'm not fond of anal, as it's the #1 way that AID's is transmitted. Many of the Indo girls also complain that Westerners are too big, so this compounds your difficulty. It's there, I've had friends tell me, but it won't be easy finding it. While we're on the subject I once heard that it's much easier for the girl (in this case) to take it, if she's on her side, which is why doctors put their patients on their sides for rectal exams.

- jF

As a new member I don't expect much attention from the senior but I there any one to tell me if there is any way to get anal in Bali?

I already get kick off twice and I don't want to get burn every were in Bali

Please can any one help me.

[Jijjy]

Getting anal all depends on the provider. Bali is not like Bangkok where one place or another specializes in these things. The best thing i think is to try one of the so called X-houses in Sanur and ask whom ever is working the front area, but a lot of the girls are malu (shy) and might not want to admit this in front of the other girls. I'm not fond of anal, as it's the #1 way that AID's is transmitted. Many of the Indo girls also complain that Westerners are too big, so this compounds your difficulty. It's there, I've had friends tell me, but it won't be easy finding it. While we're on the subject I once heard that it's much easier for the girl (in this case) to take it, if she's on her side, which is why doctors put their patients on their sides for rectal exams.

- jF


As a new member I don't expect much attention from the senior but I there any one to tell me if there is any way to get anal in Bali?

I already get kick off twice and I don't want to get burn every were in Bali

Please can any one help me.[/QUOTE]

[Tim Bone]

Back in Kuta for one night before going to Bangkok and it’s significantly quieter than it was in the first days of the month. It seems like they have had some really bad weather recently since the beach was covered with waste from the sea, even some large tree trunks have crashed ashore.

Still I’m approached by the massage ladies, and I followed one who had the girls nearby, but nothing fancied my interest and she said her own pussy was bad. Red days I guess. I had a regular massage before dinner instead. I took a look in Bounty at 11:30 and there were a few girls there of not so impressive quality. In Paddy’s next door the selection and quality was better and more girls were arriving. The first one I approached proposed ST, quoted 800K IDR for 2 hours. Wished her good luck with a smile. She asked me what was my price but looked for another. A small cute one from Jakarta, said 500K for an hour. Laughing a bit saying maybe for all night. Her turn to laugh. Ok, enough. I’m going to BKK tomorrow. Seems like something has happened since last summer when I pulled girls there for 500K all night.
The selection was actually quite decent when I left at midnight. But girls seems to prefer ST and for ridicules prices. Maybe it is too early in the evening. If I come back I will stay in Sanur next time to try out the x-houses. I was out for a walk at 10am this morning, and the sex massage was available already, so if you wake up with a hard on you can easily get some morning action. I will go for better pasture in Thailand.