Bali

[Sturelosa]

I'm with Sidhartha. The girls here in Bali are no more, nor less, trustworthy than girls anywhere else in the world.

A girl trolling in a singles bar whether in Detroit, Dublin, Düsseldorf or Denpasar is going to have certain characteristics and why mongers should be surprised about this I can't imagine.

Aren't these girls just the female equivalent of us?

How about a reality check guys?

Just how great a catch are we?

Judging by the photos I see posted, many of us are elderly, flabby, and probably stink of booze and stale sweat.

We think GFE is the ultimate but we're absolutely lousy boyfriends. We treat women as pieces of meat, we're insecure, possessive and jealous, and we try our hardest to pay the absolute minimum to get our sexual fantasies fulfilled.

So why are we surprised when these girls start looking after their own interests?

Who wouldn't want younger, sexier, richer, cleaner, kinder, funnier, friendlier, better adjusted?

Take a look in the mirror, fellers. All many of us have got going for us is the width of our wallets.

And as to Indonesian girls giving out and getting phone numbers and email addresses, it's a completely innocent and commonplace thing among Indonesians of all ages and both sexes. It doesn't necessarily mean they are sexually interested in the other person.

If you're jealous, then you're insecure, so take a look at yourself, not her.

It is nice to find a person with some insight in here. *S* A real accurate observation into human behavior. What is the saying "what goes around comes around."

[Lama Di Bali]

I am not sure it is fair to label Indonesian women as being fickle and completely unfaithful..

I'm with Sidhartha. The girls here in Bali are no more, nor less, trustworthy than girls anywhere else in the world.

A girl trolling in a singles bar whether in Detroit, Dublin, Düsseldorf or Denpasar is going to have certain characteristics and why mongers should be surprised about this I can't imagine.

Aren't these girls just the female equivalent of us?

How about a reality check guys?

Just how great a catch are we?

Judging by the photos I see posted, many of us are elderly, flabby, and probably stink of booze and stale sweat.

We think GFE is the ultimate but we're absolutely lousy boyfriends. We treat women as pieces of meat, we're insecure, possessive and jealous, and we try our hardest to pay the absolute minimum to get our sexual fantasies fulfilled.

So why are we surprised when these girls start looking after their own interests?

Who wouldn't want younger, sexier, richer, cleaner, kinder, funnier, friendlier, better adjusted?

Take a look in the mirror, fellers. All many of us have got going for us is the width of our wallets.

And as to Indonesian girls giving out and getting phone numbers and email addresses, it's a completely innocent and commonplace thing among Indonesians of all ages and both sexes. It doesn't necessarily mean they are sexually interested in the other person.

If you're jealous, then you're insecure, so take a look at yourself, not her.

[Sidhartha]

I am not sure it is fair to label Indonesian women as being fickle and completely unfaithful. I am familiar with some of the Prof's history, and feel his pain, but I still think it could have been a woman from any cultural background.
I could tell you - and I am sure most of you know - stories involving American or European women that makes them look really bad. Consider the fact that an increasing percentage of girls in the US are ending relationships using SMS - it's happened to me too. What do you think of someone who does that?
Consider some other facts. Those of you who had their women show some interest in other men - wouldn't you show interest if a sexy women threw you the come-on? If you would, then your woman probably senses it, and feels it is also her right to respond to men.
Also consider the fact that most of these girls have formed relationships with the intent of getting some security - money, property, whatever. That being the case, they are naturally inclined to keep their options open and it will be foolish to place much trust in them. If a better choice - financially - comes along they will consider it.
It is only when we are prepared to form a monogamous relationship that we should expect anything similar from women. But then we have to make the right choice. If we pick someone who we know is in it for the money then we shouldn't be disappointed when the lady picks someone else.
Sorry about the long diatribe. I think in your places I would feel the way you do, but at the moment I am not in your place so I can spout forth.
Anyway, good luck to you all.

[Sftck]

Yes this is the Question I would like to know the answer to.

Through out the many in the last 10 yrs I have had my Java Girl, when in Java she is always with me and sometimes comes back to Bali with me.

10 yrs ago she was 21 with 1 kid and through this period she has expressed undying love, can't see you again cause I love you to much, get married etc.

Sometimes I have nearly fallen for it, and sometimes there has been some serious heart ache, but now its more on an even playing field, although sometimes she tries to ring me at home when shes finished at the nightclub.

She lives 2hrs from Semarang so is limted to the amount of Bules she sees, but it doesnt bother me I'm not going to marry her, Actually I need a similar Regular in Bali, one that just pretends you are the only one when you are there.

But the question is what is it about the culture that allows this free spirt withthese women, I love it, but as the wise man says "always love them, never trust them" LOL

TIGGER are you going to catch up with her?

If you want to harden up, read THAT ASSHOLEs posts, that guy is a crack up!

Softcock

[Acer25]

Thanks for your replies guys. I'll try a report when I get back.

[Hanqe]

I will be in Bali for Nyepi and will certainly take this good advice. However, I remember some threads here ages ago (can't for the life of me find them) regarding getting Cialis or Viagra in Sanur, Is it possible to get it at the little chemist type shops at all?

Any help, advice?

You can buy original Cialis and Viagra at the pharmacies on the main street in Sanur (no prescriptions needed) Prices are also "original" like in Europe.

[DJ Monger]

If they are in a bar they are after your money... Even the little one I am with now although she swear undying love is starting to get phonecalls and messages from other bule that she has met in the day while I work. My best advise that I can ever offer on this forum is to come here treat them with respect but dont think that they will ever be faithful to you for the minute a better prospect appears they will consider it.

my current (and probably soon-to-be-ex) i met at a local university, nice girl, good family, seemed quite predisposed to be faithful... but now i'm beginning to see the signs of possible unfaithfulness. broken dates, dropped hints, finally cluminating in her giving her email addy to an indian navy guy (of all people!) right in front of me. claimed it was all innocent, and given the circumstances she could have just as easily done it behind my back, so i mostly think she was trying to make me jealous... but even all but the sluttiest western women would stop short of handing out contact details in front of my face just for a jealously ploy! needless to say i'm furious with the gf, havent spoken to her in a week, and i'm fairly convinced our rather long relationship is hopelessly and permanently derailed.

my point?

a) i actually think it's not just the bar girls - i've come to feel that pretty much all indo girls are just sluttier than most seasian women. sort of a south-sea-island, margeret-mead-discovering-a-general-lack-of-sexual-mores, to-the-point-of-genetic-immunity-to-syphillis kind of thing that theres no avoiding. i may have said this before.

(though to be fair, my uni girl is only 21, nearly half my age, not the stablest of ages for a serious relationship in any country.) anyway my other point is:

b) i may be entering the (meat) market soon, and will have a bit more free time on my hands than before. maybe it's time i finally got together for a beer or 3 with some of my fellow isg'ers? 1ball i promise i wont hit on your girlfriend, it's not my style and prof, you sound like a player and a half, maybe you could pass on some of your better contacts to a fellow long termer?

first rounds on me.

[1Ball]

As 1Ball once told me (and it took a long while to understand) If they are in a bar they are after your money... Even the little one I am with now although she swear undying love is starting to get phonecalls and messages from other bule that she has met in the day while I work.

Hey PD, is she not working yet? You might want to put a timetable on that one. Get a job, any job, by a certain date.

So am I lucky, or just stupid? I am away at the moment, my girl, who is Balinese, so it might make a difference, (vs. a girl from Java), swears undying love to me. Is she stepping out? I really don't know, except she is online on yahoo with me most evenings, and also early in the mornings. She has lots to do during the day, so my thoughts are she is being a good girl. But is she? I really don't know. It's a small place, and she is fairly smart. She knows she would kicked out of the nice house, (well at least, nice compared to the alternative), the minute I discover something is up. So it might be a question of knowing what side your bread is buttered.

I have to say some of these girls are also really naive. My girl and I were in BKK last week, staying at Livingstone lodge, which is punter central. I was talking to a fellow ISG member of all people, (fuck, you guys, go get your own, will you? what is wrong with you? ). Anyway, I go to the bathroom for 3 minutes, I come back, my girl is being hit on by this ISG asshole, telling her he is coming to Bali soon, and let's exchange emails, maybe she can show him around........ she saw the whole thing as completely innocent, which of course it wasn't. She was prepared to meet this guy in Bali and take him around. So what would happen next??? Dinner, drinks, hey baby, come back to my hotel?

I had to explain to her this guy was a fucking poon hound, and was only interested in fucking her, she was shocked. It is only after I told her he was excited to be going up to Sihanoukville, in Cambodia, to fuck 5$ *****s, that she realized he was a pig, and threw his email address away. But she saw nothing wrong with this guy approaching her, in a bar, to exchange emails. So PD, I feel your pain, with your little one getting sms from bule. It is all perfectly innocent to some of these girls. at least the good ones. The sooner she is locked up in some boring office 9 to 5, the better for you.

Is there no honor among thieves? For an ISG guy to hit on my girl, I think is really low. If you are reading this, You are a fucking pig. I wish I could remember his handle. He was a lurker, who contributes nothing. I should have known..........

[ProfDesigner]

Hey Sftck. My experience in Bali is limited, I am no authority on this stuff. Other guys are a better bet for advice. What I have picked up from the seasoned campaigners rings true. The girls are gorgeous and fickle in equal measure. While we may be suckered into affection via our dicks, they, invariably are suckering us; or money from us; which (btw) is totally legitimate. If I was in their position I'd be spreading my legs for half as much and be much less nice about it. So wariness is key. Assume at all times you are with them for different reasons than they with you. I will be seeing my original when I return this week and I am looking forward to it. There has been lots of complication. Her friends have stabbed her in the back-sending anonymous txts that she is with other guys then following up with shows if their interest in me. Maybe/probably she has been with other guys. The trick is I have learnt to care less. Still be into her and any of her countless lovely compadres but not get hung up. Most of the old stagers here will advise the same course of action. You will not find 'happily ever after' on the dancefloors or in the dark corners of Mbargo, Bounty and 66 but the illusion is beautiful.

Tigger is completely right, I have been here a long time now and see it all the time, and when you let the more important brain rule over your head then hey what can we do... I mean lets look at it we are older guys who can give them whatever they really want and they have worked out the power of pussy from a very early age. One girl I knew for quite a while I found out was pushed into the game at 14 by her mother so that she could have the nice things and let her daughter have to put up with the mental anguish afterwards. This girl is now 21 and a total fruitloop when it comes to men. As 1Ball once told me (and it took a long while to understand) If they are in a bar they are after your money... Even the little one I am with now although she swear undying love is starting to get phonecalls and messages from other bule that she has met in the day while I work. My best advise that I can ever offer on this forum is to come here treat them with respect but dont think that they will ever be faithful to you for the minute a better prospect appears they will consider it.

Enjoy the Hunt and Tigger give me a call when you hit town..

Prof

[JustBlue]

Hi guy!

I think Rp200. 000 for a hand job is over price and my massage was ok at melati. But 150, 000 for a massage is over the top. Sorry guys!

I want more value for my RP and please do not take things so personal.

I wish you all good hunting in Bali.

[Tigger Boyd]

I was following your story with some interest, Iam the same age as you and have had some close shaves myself.

I was just wondering if you could finish the gaps ,as there is probably some good info for fellow Mongers, about some of the traps that are around.

Regards

Hey Sftck. My experience in Bali is limited, I am no authority on this stuff. Other guys are a better bet for advice. What I have picked up from the seasoned campaigners rings true. The girls are gorgeous and fickle in equal measure. While we may be suckered into affection via our dicks, they, invariably are suckering us; or money from us; which (btw) is totally legitimate. If I was in their position I'd be spreading my legs for half as much and be much less nice about it. So wariness is key. Assume at all times you are with them for different reasons than they with you. I will be seeing my original when I return this week and I am looking forward to it. There has been lots of complication. Her friends have stabbed her in the back-sending anonymous txts that she is with other guys then following up with shows if their interest in me. Maybe/probably she has been with other guys. The trick is I have learnt to care less. Still be into her and any of her countless lovely compadres but not get hung up. Most of the old stagers here will advise the same course of action. You will not find 'happily ever after' on the dancefloors or in the dark corners of Mbargo, Bounty and 66 but the illusion is beautiful.

[Fishfly]

Ildom,

Metali is on JL Dewi Sri, which is the road that runs off the front of Kuta Galleria to Sunset road. It is tall building on the right side as you are going away from Kuta Galleria.

Have fun!

[Dom Perignon]

Hi guys

This is a nice place and clean and new. The girls are try to scam you and cut the massage short. The VIP room is Rp240, 000 and standard Rp150, 000 for massage. Balinese sauna has a clean spa for Rp60, 000 next to kuta bugar. Then go next door and pick a girl. From the fish bowl and happy hunting.

Melati massage is truly bad value for money very poor. Give it a big miss!

Hey Blue,

What massage place are you talking about? Where is it? Metali? What is this?

How can you say that one place is bad?

Something's that bad for you might be really good for somebody else. Like me for example.

Plus I don't think the purpose of this forum is to say that some place is not as good as someone else reported.

By the way. Balinese massage, Kuta Sauna and Kuta bugar. Are not clean places.

Enjoy

Ildom

[Memekman]

I will be in Bali for Nyepi and will certainly take this good advice. However, I remember some threads here ages ago (can't for the life of me find them) regarding getting Cialis or Viagra in Sanur, Is it possible to get it at the little chemist type shops at all?

Any help, advice?

I don't know about shops in Sanur but I was able to get Cialis- the real Mcoy- in the apotek located in the same building as the Star Super Market (or is it Bintang?) on Jl Legian in Seminyak Legian. The shop is one of those in the front row alongside shops celling mobile phones. But it cost me a whopping 400k for two tab box.

[Fishfly]

Just Blue,

Sorry to hear about your experience. I went to the MP a couple of days ago and had a good time. The massage was all of 1.5 hours and the asking price for a HJ was 200,000rp.

The young lady spent about 30 minutes massaging my balls and ass and finished off a good HJ. Lots of laughing and playing.

I could never try to explain what happened with you, except to say that you were unlucky.

I will return to Metali massage again But I do preferr the Kuta Bugar Jaya on Sunset road.

Have fun!