Bali

[Wimble]

Nice! Good first trip and namesake. I was a lot older when I found my first "Madura" and then the girls who can clamp onto you and pulsate. They are great finds.

Kodja beach In was the first losman I stayed in on my first trip to Bali in 1979 hence the name. Back then I remember riding a motorbike to Sanur one evening and met up with a local pimp that brought a lady from Madura to have sex with me on the beach. It was my first experience of "goyang Madura". Nice memory.

[Kodja]

Any connections to the hotel? LOL.

Kodja beach In was the first losman I stayed in on my first trip to Bali in 1979 hence the name. Back then I remember riding a motorbike to Sanur one evening and met up with a local pimp that brought a lady from Madura to have sex with me on the beach. It was my first experience of "goyang Madura". Nice memory.

[Wimble]

Any connections to the hotel? LOL.

Kodja Beach Inn. My favorite.

[Hihi Ster]

Does that mean no double penetration and cash on delivery?

No Down Payment (as in bank transfer a small amount of money) needed, you're expected to pay her when she arrives.

[Kodja]

............ If you don't want to want them to come to your hotel, there are short-time hotels to meet up. My favorites are Agung Cottages on Legian. And Kodja Beach Inn on Jl Pantai Kuta. 100 k. Clean rooms, clean sheets, hot and cold kamar mandi.

Kodja Beach Inn. My favorite.

[Rugan]

Does that mean no double penetration and cash on delivery?

[Rugan]

Any recommendations for a massage with BJ place close to Canggu?

Also what do the escorts mean when they say "include / exclude" in their adverts?

Thanks folks.

[Joel Goodsen]

so convenient to those who stay in Kuta but the downside is that the chicks there are mostly below par compared to the chicks in the Sanur X houses.

Obviously. If you are looking for FS with a hottie in a brothel, go to Sanur. If you are looking for FS in your hotel room, go to the Kuta Legian party strip (starts at 1 j), pick up a freelancer.

But for HJ with clothes on, 2 hours in a taxi is too much. Stay in Kuta. There are more MP's than you can poke a stick at. If the service does not appear on the menu, doesn't mean they don't offer it! Instead of recommending a particular place, I'd try a MP that offers some privacy, pick a massage girl and ask straight up. "Massage plus plus bisa? If they don't, just keep asking who will. They'll get the drift. Some locations to try would be around Legian and the Poppies. Gang Bedugul. I had a RnT there last week. Or around that little market on Jl Kartika Plaza, just before the Discovery shopping mall.

Should it fail, for during the day-time, there is always Salon Rica. It's a FS brothel, but they offer massage as well. You find it in the gang next to Sky Garden on Legian. Keep the Bali bomb monument to your left, travel up into that gang for about 150 m. Its on your right. The place is a dump, but "on par" with that RnT joint in Sanur. For the cleaner MP's, may be stick to Kuta Bugar and Angel. There is also Delta and Frezz, if it stil exists, and some more in Seminyak.

However, honestly, if you'd ask me, best thing to do in Kuta is collecting phone numbers. From some nice looking single mummy's in front of Kimberley Spa on Legian. Or from freelancers in the clubs that are up for a daytime massage. Or from massage girls that are willing to meet outside their MP. That's what I always do. Too easy. If you don't want to want them to come to your hotel, there are short-time hotels to meet up. My favorites are Agung Cottages on Legian. And Kodja Beach Inn on Jl Pantai Kuta. 100 k. Clean rooms, clean sheets, hot and cold kamar mandi.

[Franga]

Went twice to Angel Salon/Massage in Kuta. It is a 15 minute walk from Bemo Corner so convenient to those who stay in Kuta but the downside is that the chicks there are mostly below par compared to the chicks in the Sanur X houses. The line up is about 6 chicks. They quote 400 k Rp for massage with HJ only. I said I knew the prices and so they said 300 k Rp for boom boom but no massage included. 300 k Rp is about $23 usd at 13300 January2018 rate.

The room is okay with a mandi which is just a cold water bucket bath, and has aircon. Good performance by both chicks. One was prepared to do BBBJ, didn't ask the other one. Not that I took up the offer though. The chicks had liquid soap, condom, one had lube the other didn't, no tissues, towels were clean and dry.

I also tried to negotiate 250 k Rp for FJ at next door Mawar but they wouldn't budge off 300 k, so that is why I ended up at Angel twice. Chicks not very doable there either.

[Franga]

Joel,

I was not aware of any similar massage joints in Kuta, so that is why I went to Sanur. But yes, travelling from Kuta to Sanur definitely put me off with the travel time and the traffic, and the added cost.

All massage joints that I know of in Kuta are non-erotic and charge around 65 k Rp. The only ones that I had read about was Riverside and Kuta Bugar but these are apparently priced much higher like in the 600 k to 1 m range, which is far too much of a waste of money for me.

I did however use Angel Spa in Kuta twice but for FJ only and no massage. That was $300 k.

Are you able to name any lower priced HJ joints in Kuta, that might also include an erotic oilie massage as well?

[Joel Goodsen]

The girls didn't like being touched up during the massage and definitely not on the tits. They remain fully clothed the entire time. But I managed to grab their asses quite a bit, though covered by clothing.

There is a hot shower in the room with liquid soap to clean off. I tipped 50 k Rp each time. Definitely worth a visit even though the place appears a bit dingy inside.

Taxi will cost 94 k Rp from Kuta (Bemo Corner) with Bluebird, or you can take the Perama minibus on their schedule for 35 k Rp but will have to walk back for 20 minutes from their dropoff point in Sanur.

Nice report, but it makes no sense doing this from Kuta. Going by taxi, driving up and down to Sanur will take up to 1 half to 2 hours.

And all up you will spend around 450 k on a HJ service with clothes on. There are plenty of similar massage parlors in Kuta with prices for HJ and BJ services starting at 200 k. Full service (room inclusive) starts at 400 k.

[Kodja]

I recently went twice to Village Arum Day Spa in Sanur located on Jalan Pantai Sindu close to the Bypass road. They offer an erotic oilie massage for 250 k Rp + 25 k Rp room rent (includes HJ finish). On the menu card this is the "Beer Fanta Massage". You can ask for no Beer or Fanta and just get oil and cream. 275 k Rupiah converts to about $21 usd total in January 2018.

It was pretty good, with very nice looking chicks in their twenties both times. The interesting thing is that you do the massage lying on your side so that the masseuse has access to your ass and dick. While massaging your sides, legs, and back, every minute or so the chick would slide her arm between my legs and grab the member and balls with a very oilie hand for a bit of a touch up. You have your top leg elevated a bit by placing it on a small vinyl pillow of sorts (see grey object on bed in room pic). The massage is supposed to go for 90 minutes and there is no shorter time option. For the finish you are placed on your back.

The girls didn't like being touched up during the massage and definitely not on the tits. They remain fully clothed the entire time. But I managed to grab their asses quite a bit, though covered by clothing..

I visited there less than 2 weeks ago. My massage was on the front and back only. Nothing about being on my side was mentioned. As you said, plenty of "touching up" right through the massage. The touching starts nearly immediately into the massage.

It was very dark in the room and my "therapist" was wearing black. When I turned over I put my hand on her and noticed how large her belly was. She told me she was 8 month pregnant! It was a bit of shock and put me off for a short time but she finished me well as she had a great technique.

[Franga]

I recently went twice to Village Arum Day Spa in Sanur located on Jalan Pantai Sindu close to the Bypass road. They offer an erotic oilie massage for 250 k Rp + 25 k Rp room rent (includes HJ finish). On the menu card this is the "Beer Fanta Massage". You can ask for no Beer or Fanta and just get oil and cream. 275 k Rupiah converts to about $21 usd total in January 2018.

It was pretty good, with very nice looking chicks in their twenties both times. The interesting thing is that you do the massage lying on your side so that the masseuse has access to your ass and dick. While massaging your sides, legs, and back, every minute or so the chick would slide her arm between my legs and grab the member and balls with a very oilie hand for a bit of a touch up. You have your top leg elevated a bit by placing it on a small vinyl pillow of sorts (see grey object on bed in room pic). The massage is supposed to go for 90 minutes and there is no shorter time option. For the finish you are placed on your back.

The girls didn't like being touched up during the massage and definitely not on the tits. They remain fully clothed the entire time. But I managed to grab their asses quite a bit, though covered by clothing.

There is a hot shower in the room with liquid soap to clean off. I tipped 50 k Rp each time. Definitely worth a visit even though the place appears a bit dingy inside.

Taxi will cost 94 k Rp from Kuta (Bemo Corner) with Bluebird, or you can take the Perama minibus on their schedule for 35 k Rp but will have to walk back for 20 minutes from their dropoff point in Sanur.

[Wimble]

FWIW, VJ, I think you and I move in different circles. I don't want any of the girls knocking on my door and showing up at my doorstep. As for picking up western backpacking girls, give it a shot at Kuta. Or Ubud.

[VonderJohn]

There are professional women backpacking through. Some have a nest egg and some are just taking a long vacation. So you can get lucky. Many have married local guys in some locations. Bali is one place I have heard of some. I suspect that is what you are asking.

FWIW, supposedly Wendy Deng picked up a toy boy in paradise after getting kicked out.

True, regarding the backpackers. My main question is. How should such ladies be approached? I'm sure they'd need a different approach than the east asian or Balinese ladies. Because the European ladies don't target western men. But expect to be targeted by them. While east asian ladies would enjoy being spent on, given gifts and getting pampered. I wonder what trigger would the european backpackers respond to.