Batam

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Trillian,
very good report. This will help those who think to go to Batam and find something like Pattaya, then complain with those who wrote enthusiast notes (e.g., me).
You missed the fun, but it comes with experience and after learning the environment. Slowly.

This is a developing country. Get what you need at the ferry terminal, because there's not a whole lot outside.
I went to the mall a block away. It was dead in the middle of the day. Maybe half the stores were open, and only selling really low-end daily stuff.

Come again and explore. Many Singaporean come to Batam exclusively for shopping. The nearest and largest mall is Nagoya Hill, where you can find many things but more expensive than elsewhere. Other large malls are DC Mall and BCS. Yes, it is not like KL or Singapore where you find luxury items. There are very large malls at 15-30 minutes by car, but why we should go there, if not for curiosity or hunt local ladies?

Stayed at Harmoni. There's an ATM to the right of the back door.

There are more ATMs than western tourists. At Nagoya Hill not less than a dozen. Prefer those that dispense 100 k notes.

Went to Nagoya Hill Shopping Centre for lunch. Imagine a stadium, and then row houses surrounding the stadium, and all those houses are massage parlors. I didn't see many people going in and out. Don't know how there can be so much business.

ALL those massage places are legitimate without ANY extra. Singaporeans and tourist love them. Some are good.

If you want massage with extras, go outside.

If you want cheap and in a seedy room, go behind Utama. Any extra available, but you cannot choose the girl. At best, from a photobook, which is useless.

Had trouble finding cabs since the app is not allowed at the official taxi stands / entrances. Happened to come across one who speaks my language, and he couldn't enter Bunga since it seemed to be in a mall.

FORGET CABS. Take ojek.

You want a cab? DO NOT take it from Nagoya Hill. They are regulated at a very high price.

Today, most locals and Singaporeans use apps like Gojek and their equivalent for taxi. For me, it makes little sense all that burden to save 1 SGD. I take a cab from street (usually an ojek, not a cab) and I be sure to check the price BEFORE entering. For going around downtown, 10 k on ojek and 30 k on taxi are ok.

I do not understand what you say about Bunga. It is not in a mall. It is like others on the street.
He did not want to take you there because he must be banned there or he takes higher commission from kupu-kupu or others.
If you go to a massage joint with taxi, you will be charged 200k more, which is the commission for the taxi driver. Go alone.

Went to dinner at Windsor Food Court. Beer girls will swarm you. Should've tried picking them up. The one I got a beer from had trouble standing on her high heels by the time I left, which wasn't that late. I gave her tips but she didn't understand, thought I was trying to get beers for less than the price.

They are NOT available for pick up LOL. I tried with many and many times. No way. At best, one could be your girlfriend, but not after the first meeting.

They WELCOME A TIP for their company at the table. I guess she did not understand what you wanted to say.

I offer them drinks and food. They make their living out of commissions on beers sold.

Went back to hotel. Decided to stop by the bar. It was a weekday, so few customers. But there were lots of pretty women. Sat with a girl named Maria who unlike most people spoke English fluently. I kept offering to buy her lady drinks, but she mostly said no. Having gotten into habit of not tipping, I forgot to tip her at the end of the night. Too bad, she was a really good girl, forced by the economy to do what she does.

To do what?? This is not a place for lady drinks. Most likely she was waiting for you to propose to go to sleep together (and in that case give her 1 M, since she is from the bar).

In Indonesia, girls are always happy to receive some money as tip. They will not feel mistreated.

Went back via Nongasura ferry the next morning. You can see the destitution outside the town centers. It's probably the kind of place Maria lives.

I don't think so. Those places are for girls who work in industry or markets.

Most likely, Maria has a job and lives in a decent home, or at worst in a kost in town (which is not good anyway).

I met more than one girl in a bar like the one of Harmoni who have a car.

[Trillian]

This is a developing country. Get what you need at the ferry terminal, because there's not a whole lot outside.

I went to the mall a block away. It was dead in the middle of the day. Maybe half the stores were open, and only selling really low-end daily stuff.

Stayed at Harmoni. There's an ATM to the right of the back door.

Went to Nagoya Hill Shopping Centre for lunch. Imagine a stadium, and then row houses surrounding the stadium, and all those houses are massage parlors. I didn't see many people going in and out. Don't know how there can be so much business.

Had trouble finding cabs since the app is not allowed at the official taxi stands / entrances. Happened to come across one who speaks my language, and he couldn't enter Bunga since it seemed to be in a mall.

Went to Kupu instead. First timer so got charged 1200. I took the best looking but back at the hotel she was pretty old, and had boil mark, bruises. I didn't ask but really wasn't interested. I sent her away with 100 tip. I think she was afraid I would complain, but I told her things were fine.

Went to dinner at Windsor Food Court. Beer girls will swarm you. Should've tried picking them up. The one I got a beer from had trouble standing on her high heels by the time I left, which wasn't that late. I gave her tips but she didn't understand, thought I was trying to get beers for less than the price.

Went back to hotel. Decided to stop by the bar. It was a weekday, so few customers. But there were lots of pretty women. Sat with a girl named Maria who unlike most people spoke English fluently. I kept offering to buy her lady drinks, but she mostly said no. Having gotten into habit of not tipping, I forgot to tip her at the end of the night. Too bad, she was a really good girl, forced by the economy to do what she does.

Went back via Nongasura ferry the next morning. You can see the destitution outside the town centers. It's probably the kind of place Maria lives.

Please don't be cheap like me. Tip the girls, even if it's for a few drinks.

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Hi,

I am planning to visit Batam by August second week and being first time in Batam I would like to get some advice regarding hotel stay (girls friendly), tourist places, best and cheap massage centre's and where can I pick up girls.
Thanks in advance.

Start reading here? Still 10 days to go.

[Gowthamjr]

Thanks for the info and awareness. Will be sure to check on my belongings before he girl leaves. Will post FR after my trip. Thanks again.

Hi,

I am planning to visit Batam by August second week and being first time in Batam I would like to get some advice regarding hotel stay (girls friendly), tourist places, best and cheap massage centre's and where can I pick up girls.

Thanks in advance.

[Black Page]

Thanks for the info and awareness. Will be sure to check on my belongings before he girl leaves. Will post FR after my trip. Thanks again.

Check WHILE the girl is there, not when she leaves...!
See this:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2280456

I suggest you take your time to read this forum posts going back several years. The posting rate is not high, so you will not take long. Reading will be enlightening, especially for you (I understand you did not read much - Family word here is RTFF - because if you did read, you would have NOT asked this question here, which shows plain ignorance of the relaxed environment).

[Rudirider]

LOL. Read my stories posted here over the years and you will discover a whole new world.

This is paradise of girl-friendly hotels. All hotels (AFAIK) are 100% open. No need to register them at the reception. Once I took a group of 4 to sleep with me after partying hard in disco (3 in my bed, 1 on the chair). I am not sure about your hotel in particular, but I have no reason to suspect they apply some policy.

This may sound good, but also note that if one steals something and disappears you have no way to trace her back. This risk is low or non-existent for girls booked from establishments (read here), but significant for girls taken from disco, wechat, or whatever unknown source. Be careful, read all posts here going back for a few years, do not try everything on your first visit but be incremental.

Thanks for the info and awareness. Will be sure to check on my belongings before he girl leaves. Will post FR after my trip. Thanks again.

[Black Page]

Hey guys,

Am planning a trip to Batam sometime next month. Plan to stay at Nagoya Hill Hotel. Am wondering if the hotel allows me bringing girls back to the room? Do they require the girl to register before going up to the room? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

LOL. Read my stories posted here over the years and you will discover a whole new world.

This is paradise of girl-friendly hotels. All hotels (AFAIK) are 100% open. No need to register them at the reception. Once I took a group of 4 to sleep with me after partying hard in disco (3 in my bed, 1 on the chair). I am not sure about your hotel in particular, but I have no reason to suspect they apply some policy.

This may sound good, but also note that if one steals something and disappears you have no way to trace her back. This risk is low or non-existent for girls booked from establishments (read here), but significant for girls taken from disco, wechat, or whatever unknown source. Be careful, read all posts here going back for a few years, do not try everything on your first visit but be incremental.

[Rudirider]

Hey guys,

Am planning a trip to Batam sometime next month. Plan to stay at Nagoya Hill Hotel. Am wondering if the hotel allows me bringing girls back to the room? Do they require the girl to register before going up to the room? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

[VivaMattyVegas]

My apologies to all, you won't have to worry about me asking questions again.

300 SGD for massage is certainly something worth to try, to the point to take a ferry and move to Batam.

After reading the above, the only advice I may give is:
1) use Google and learn about Batam, currency, ferry routes, etc.
2) use ISG and read here.
3) after you have done all that, you'll be able to ask useful questions and, as you have seen, people will be happy to reply.

In absence of 1), 2) and therefore 3), I foresee a huge disappointment out of your trip.

[Black Page]

Thanks for the info. I imagine you're quoting prices in SGD, correct?
Also, where does the ferry let off? Is that anywhere near Nagoya?

300 SGD for massage is certainly something worth to try, to the point to take a ferry and move to Batam.

After reading the above, the only advice I may give is:
1) use Google and learn about Batam, currency, ferry routes, etc.
2) use ISG and read here.
3) after you have done all that, you'll be able to ask useful questions and, as you have seen, people will be happy to reply.

In absence of 1), 2) and therefore 3), I foresee a huge disappointment out of your trip.

[Blanquiceleste]

Thanks for the info. I imagine you're quoting prices in SGD, correct?

Also, where does the ferry let off? Is that anywhere near Nagoya?

Dude. Please do some research.

1 SGD = 10,000 IDR roughly. So when some one says 200 - 300, they mean 200,000 IDR to 300,000 IDR. Which means 20 SGD to 30 SGD.

There are several ferry operators from SG and they let off at several different jettys in Batam. Look for for a ferry that will drop you off at HARBOR BAY terminal in Batam. Nagoya area is less than 10 minutes away from this terminal by taxi. Do not pay more than 40,000 to 60,000 IDR for the ride to Nagoya.

Also, apart from massage parlors, if you want a good experience and don't mind forking out a bit more cash head to ATALANTA or OCTOPUSS spa. Ask for Packet. They will know what you want.

[VivaMattyVegas]

Thanks for the info. I imagine you're quoting prices in SGD, correct?

Also, where does the ferry let off? Is that anywhere near Nagoya?

All depends on what time of the day and if you plan on getting a room.

I will assume that you won't be getting a room, so that would mean that no booking joints, ST, LT and takeout.

This will leave all the MP and spa.

Batam is the one place I know that it is very difficult to find a massage place without any extras. Finding a legit massage is not that easy.

So almost every massage place you find will have extras. What kind of extras will depend. Most will come with HJ as an option or already included..

[Transporter]

Will be taking a day trip to Batam from Singapore and was wondering where to go during the daytime. Is this even possible or is everything at night?

Thanks in advance.

All depends on what time of the day and if you plan on getting a room.

I will assume that you won't be getting a room, so that would mean that no booking joints, ST, LT and takeout.

This will leave all the MP and spa.

Batam is the one place I know that it is very difficult to find a massage place without any extras. Finding a legit massage is not that easy.

So almost every massage place you find will have extras. What kind of extras will depend. Most will come with HJ as an option or already included.

General prices for add ONS are 200-300 for HJ, and about 500 for FJ. The GQ will come usually when you turn over.

If you find yourself there at a time that you cannot find a massage place or spa open, then just head to any of the larger hotels, as they usually have inhouse massage open 24/7.

Keep in mind I have already assumed that you will be in the nagoya area. Most of everything will be in the nagoya area, if you landed in the centre, then you will need to get a ride to nagoya.

[Black Page]

Excuse my ignorance, but what's the difference between massage parlor and booking joint? Any that you can recommend on either end?

Here terms were used as synonims.

BOOKING JOINT = place where you can book girls (in Batam, "booking" means hire a girl for sex overnight; I never found this word elsewhere in the world).

MASSAGE PARLOR = place where they give massage, with or without extras, in some cases also a place for ST and for LT (BO, booking).

Other places that serve as booking joint: some KTVs, some "pubs".

[VivaMattyVegas]

Excuse my ignorance, but what's the difference between massage parlor and booking joint? Any that you can recommend on either end?

Massage shops / Booking joints open by 12 noon. Any earlier, you are on your own.