Jakarta

[Thampi62]

Hi friends.

Bitcoin subscription is little bit complicated for me for the renewal of my ISG subscription. Any other payment option which will be easy as credit card.

Regards.

[Thampi62]

Use the Opera browser with the VPN option set to On. Speeds will be slower, but at least you will have some access to ISG.

Thanks friend. Will shift to Opera.

[Stykler]

Hi friends.

I have difficulty in accessing ISG forum from yesterday onwards. Tried different internet providers. Only very few are letting me in. Any police raid in ISG forum? LOL.

Regards.

Use the Opera browser with the VPN option set to On. Speeds will be slower, but at least you will have some access to ISG.

[Thampi62]

Hi friends.

I have difficulty in accessing ISG forum from yesterday onwards. Tried different internet providers. Only very few are letting me in. Any police raid in ISG forum? LOL.

Regards.

[Blanquiceleste]

Unfortunately, there are no good bands at BATS currently. Just because that indo band is better than the other one doesn't mean it's a good band.

There's a good band at Bluegrass on Saturday nights and Holy Wings has some good bands.

Or you could try Jaya Pub or Cazbar. But those places are busy only on specific days of the week.

[BabaLoda]

Hello all,

I hope all of you are safe from the deluge in Jakarta.

Any reviews for Gran Melia (Rasuna Said) hotel spa? Would appreciate any inputs please.

Thanks.

BL.

[Smoothy]

I guess since I'm staying at the hotel, I can always pop in downstairs and see what's going on. I'm guessing I was just fine with the band you dislike, but hopefully I'll see the better one one of these nights. I'm happy to go have a drink downstairs at night.

Unfortunately, there are no good bands at BATS currently. Just because that indo band is better than the other one doesn't mean it's a good band.

There's a good band at Bluegrass on Saturday nights and Holy Wings has some good bands.

[Smthgrnthg]

I had a 2 day trip, Train tracks were the highlight.
Visited train tracks around 11 in the morning, had threesome with 2 beauties, it was a great session. Damage was 500 K. One advantage in train tracks is you are not rushed by mamasan like in Classic. Next day, had foursome for 500 K in the same location. Train tracks are much better than massage places IMHO if you can tolerate those conditions. Visited Classic, Travel and New Sari Ayu in the evenings but all are crapshoots. Classic had a special 250 K, took 2 girls for 500 K for a not so great session. Checked out at Griya Sehat (Ruko Robinson) but skipped it as girl selection is thru pictures and sessions cost 600 K. I had plans to visit other locations like train tracks such as jatinegera, cawang, etc but skipped due to zero Indonesian skills and traffic / time constraints.
Overall Jakarta is underwhelming destination, train tracks saved my trip.

Hi Jicks / Smoothy,

Mind posting or messaging me the directions to "train Track" . I will be in Jakarta for a week, mostly I hang out at Classic / travel or use social media (good luck with WeChat and Badoo) around Plaza Indonesia area. Intrigued with your adventures in train tracks. Will share my 'findings' here. Thanks in advance.

[Maila]

You arrived and left at the perfect times. The problem was the night you chose to go. You are talking about a Monday night. Every free lance place in Jakarta is dead on Monday night. The only one that might possible have something going on Monday night would be CJs at the Hotel Mulia. That's a better night to hit the brothels. Every night of the week other than Sunday and Monday nights will be ok.

If the band was decent enough, I am guessing it was the one night of the week they have an Indonesian band there rather than the one that is there every other night of the week. I know it's either Sunday or Monday night the normal band is off, but I am not sure which. Regardless, the normal band at BATS right now is terrible. BATS is off my list of places to go at the moment simply due to that crap band. The band at CJs is also pretty lame, but it's far better than the one at BATS currently.

4:30 pm at Classic is a good time to go. You can spend the entire day there and get in many shots by going so early.

The spa places open around 11 am depending on which one you choose.

I guess since I'm staying at the hotel, I can always pop in downstairs and see what's going on. I'm guessing I was just fine with the band you dislike, but hopefully I'll see the better one one of these nights. I'm happy to go have a drink downstairs at night.

[Turgid]

In case you weren't aware, Jakarta is the fastest sinking city in the world and expected to be underwater by 2050............

Means that by 2050 Jakarta will be a tourist hub like Venice.

[Smoothy]

I visit BATS tonight. What a disappointment.

I figured more FLs would arrive but none did. I went after 11:30 and stuck around till 2 am wondering if I came in far too early.

I thought the band was decent enough.

Don't think I'm going to head anywhere at 3 am, but will hit up other things tomorrow. Not sure if there are daytime options, but I read that one can hit Classic around 4:30 pm. I wonder if any of the "spa" places might be open earlier, or a soapy or something.

You arrived and left at the perfect times. The problem was the night you chose to go. You are talking about a Monday night. Every free lance place in Jakarta is dead on Monday night. The only one that might possible have something going on Monday night would be CJs at the Hotel Mulia. That's a better night to hit the brothels. Every night of the week other than Sunday and Monday nights will be ok.

If the band was decent enough, I am guessing it was the one night of the week they have an Indonesian band there rather than the one that is there every other night of the week. I know it's either Sunday or Monday night the normal band is off, but I am not sure which. Regardless, the normal band at BATS right now is terrible. BATS is off my list of places to go at the moment simply due to that crap band. The band at CJs is also pretty lame, but it's far better than the one at BATS currently.

4:30 pm at Classic is a good time to go. You can spend the entire day there and get in many shots by going so early.

The spa places open around 11 am depending on which one you choose.

[BJtemp]

I visit BATS tonight. What a disappointment. There were a total of about ten fairly well-dressed FLs. But, they were rather old and ugly. It was all very amusing and horrifying at the same time. There were old men dancing with each other while FLs sat smoking like chimneys looking at them.

I'm not sure if there is some sort of cover to enter BATS. When I went there, they asked me if I was staying at the hotel and asked to see my key card. Then when I showed it to them, they "opened" a closed lane to walk through to the bar.

Two FLs came and joined me while I was hanging out by myself. I couldn't even muster excitement at even talking with them. It was bad.

I found only one girl who seemed in the 20's and attractive but I didn't make a move on her holding out for something better. I saw that girl not even able to walk straight so I figured this could be a case where she lands on a bed and crashes to sleep. But, I and hindsight, I could have had her. I saw some heavy negotiations taking place. I figured more FLs would arrive but none did. I went after 11:30 and stuck around till 2 am wondering if I came in far too early.

I thought the band was decent enough.

Don't think I'm going to head anywhere at 3 am, but will hit up other things tomorrow. Not sure if there are daytime options, but I read that one can hit Classic around 4:30 pm. I wonder if any of the "spa" places might be open earlier, or a soapy or something.

Classic is opened at 4:30pm. I have been there around that time. There were about 20 girls there. You might be the only customer there, so all eyes are on you and that could be a bit of pressure. But if you don't care about that, male female ratio will be very favorable.

[Maila]

I visit BATS tonight. What a disappointment. There were a total of about ten fairly well-dressed FLs. But, they were rather old and ugly. It was all very amusing and horrifying at the same time. There were old men dancing with each other while FLs sat smoking like chimneys looking at them.

I'm not sure if there is some sort of cover to enter BATS. When I went there, they asked me if I was staying at the hotel and asked to see my key card. Then when I showed it to them, they "opened" a closed lane to walk through to the bar.

Two FLs came and joined me while I was hanging out by myself. I couldn't even muster excitement at even talking with them. It was bad.

I found only one girl who seemed in the 20's and attractive but I didn't make a move on her holding out for something better. I saw that girl not even able to walk straight so I figured this could be a case where she lands on a bed and crashes to sleep. But, I and hindsight, I could have had her. I saw some heavy negotiations taking place. I figured more FLs would arrive but none did. I went after 11:30 and stuck around till 2 am wondering if I came in far too early.

I thought the band was decent enough.

Don't think I'm going to head anywhere at 3 am, but will hit up other things tomorrow. Not sure if there are daytime options, but I read that one can hit Classic around 4:30 pm. I wonder if any of the "spa" places might be open earlier, or a soapy or something.

[BJtemp]

I am curious where that is. Doesn't sound like Jakarta. My apartment building in Jakarta sells for USD 140 per sq ft, and it's nothing special. I would even call it down market.

Is your apartment a high rise building? High rise condos and apartments have higher cost per sqft because of the additional mechanical and electrical stuff needed to make high rise possible, such as elevators, lobby area, hallways, etc. For low rise dwellings it's cheaper if those things can be eliminated.

The 10-15 USD / sqft figure is from an individual who posted on Quora (his actual reported figure is 1. 5 mil IDR / M2). Exactly where I don't know; the question is about Indonesia. I separately have a found cost quote from a construction company, for 340 USD / M2, or 34 USD / sqft, doubling the individual's figure, and this is specifically for Jakarta area. The two figures somewhat checks out, because construction company might have certain standards and also they need to make a profit. So the actual range for low rise dwelling is probably somewhere around 10-30 USD / sqft. This type of dwelling is not going to sell at the price of glitzy high rise buildings; but it will have its market.

I, for one, only care about maximizing my in-unit space; I try to minimize public area. I think this gives the most bang for the buck.

[Cynicalist]

I just returned from Jakarta; am preparing my report. Mainly dealing with pictures, which takes a a bit longer to sort through. But I want to raise a separate question first.

As I travel through the city, I saw one shitty neighborhood after another. At many spots right at the center of the the city, even next to the museums and govt buildings, there are building ruins. I have not seen one true "nice area" in Jakarta, and decent-condition buildings are few and far in between. I went to Mangga Dua mall; inside the mall is OK, just outside the mall... shitty.

The sewage gutters are mostly clogged by garbage. The area around Classic is pretty old and run-down as well. It flooded after the new year eve rain.

Why is the city so run-down?! Where are the nice areas in Jakarta (if they exist)?

These are emerging economies. What did you expect?

The nice areas are usually where the ambassadors and local politicians / business people live.