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05-20-22 12:07 #16019
Posts: 310Tip + Spoiling the market + Service
Agreed on spoiling the market by over tipping but at the same time, depends on level of service I received. At classic or similar establishments, I've tipped 100-150 to the girls that gave me amazing service, same goes for other places, at same time I deliberately tipped 50 to girls who were persistent on lady drinks and provided shitty service just to send a strong msg that "you need to up your service".
Language could be a challenge in conversing with some but telling her what you want using signs or common words, they understands pretty good.
Some brothers mentioned about Malioboro! Not my usual place as I find it's overpriced for Indon girls which I can get similar standard through my Indonesian friends from a non-pro for a fair amount and 90% of the time, they provide top notch service and they get the tip for it. Does one need to tip 200-300 because it's Malioboro, absolutely not! Even if you are taking Easter European form there. Like I said, it all depends on you and the service you received.
Another scenario of good tips, I met a young MILF from backpage (definitely before Trump time) and we agreed on 3 shot 4/5 hrs. She ended up staying until the morning without demanding extra for her time and service was one of the best I have received in my life. She even offered to drive me to eat breakfast! Initial agreed amount was 750 for her time and she left with additional 250 tips and we both were happy. On her second visit, she even brought food for us.
I'm contrary, tip based on Place, Looks and service. You got shitty service, just come out and walk away. You got decent service, tip decent and on. But it's important to remember, if you are getting service for 365/ shot, it's not necessary to tip 250 as that will definitely set the bar to the highest expectations and service will mostly likely decline from that certain individual.
Blues definitely have increased the market for these non-pro escorts because they knows pretty well, they won't be getting similar amount from locals, doesn't matter whether it's a super model from Bats.
Originally Posted by EgyMongerNew [View Original Post]
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05-19-22 16:59 #16018
Posts: 10Be Fashion Spa latest report
Folks,
Its been 2 years to Jakarta, coming next week. Is the Be fashion spa still providing the package massage esp tiger claw? If not, any other Spa recommendation with blissful service? Guidance is appreciated.
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05-19-22 13:05 #16017
Posts: 34Escorts / Outcall
Hi all, heading to Jakarta for a short work trip. Doubtful will have time to head out to Classic or Malio etc. Any reliable recommendations for outcalls / escorts? Lots of twitter listings but no idea if reliable.
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05-19-22 10:35 #16016
Posts: 31Based on experience and applying a theoretical 100 k tip, there are a number of factors which influence how well (or poorly) the tip is received.
Variables include:
1. The quality of the establishment.
2. The rapport built between the two parties (party be being polite and making Party A laugh).
3. The gap size in age and physical appearance of the two parties (the bigger the gap, the bigger the tip required to satiate Party A).
4. Indonesian language fluency (outward indicator of local knowledge and adds to rapport building).
If you can work 3 out of those 4 variables in your favour, then a 100 k tip is at most warmly received and at least, accepted without fuss.
Originally Posted by Cucumber [View Original Post]
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05-18-22 19:21 #16015
Posts: 21Originally Posted by ClassicJakarta [View Original Post]
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05-18-22 17:52 #16014
Posts: 535Originally Posted by Cucumber [View Original Post]
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05-18-22 17:06 #16013
Posts: 310Ruining the market?
Originally Posted by EgyMongerNew [View Original Post]
Concerning claims about 100 k being normal, I can't remember ever having been with a girl at one of these establishments who would be happy with such a tip. As far as I can see, expectations are clearly higher. Personally I don't think paying a total of 47 USD including tip for ok sex with a 19 year old with a perfect body is expensive.
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05-18-22 12:12 #16012
Posts: 24Just today, Indonesia has updated the rules again, now you don't need a PCR test before arrival.
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05-18-22 11:52 #16011
Posts: 60Originally Posted by EgyMongerNew [View Original Post]
Information on tipping posted here is confusing. I don't want to over tip but I want to give the girl a fair reward if her service is good.
If you can advise me of what is approptiate I would appreciate it.
Originally Posted by EgyMongerNew [View Original Post]
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05-18-22 08:58 #16010
Posts: 10Bats is open, but not really busy yet. Might be because there is still not many bules around.
Originally Posted by RedRobin3092 [View Original Post]
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05-17-22 17:01 #16009
Posts: 21Bats
Can somebody confirm if BATS is back to normal? How is the scene? Do they still have ladies nights on Wednesdays? Planning to visit next month.
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05-17-22 12:01 #16008
Posts: 279No need to spoil the market for the rest of us
Originally Posted by Gonz0 [View Original Post]
By giving them 200 or 300 K for almost nothing in return other than you feeling emotional and sorry for their perceived income, service quality will drop significantly for the next bule they come across.
I am beginning to understand why there is a need to keep non-mainstream brothels hush-hush and not here on a public forum.
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05-17-22 11:38 #16007
Posts: 60Originally Posted by ClassicJakarta [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Cucumber [View Original Post]
If management has no expectation about how much you tip, then how can it be said that there is a minimum tip? Where does this minimum tip information come from?
Am I misunderstanding this?
Originally Posted by Cucumber [View Original Post]
Do you show her the money?
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05-16-22 20:50 #16006
Posts: 535Originally Posted by ClassicJakarta [View Original Post]
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05-16-22 17:37 #16005
Posts: 310Tipping
Originally Posted by Gonz0 [View Original Post]
Management has no expectation for how much you should tip. It is an issue to be resolved between you (your willingness to pay) and the girl (her performance) and ultimately it is up to you. This way the girls have an incentive to perform well, which is in everybody's interest. But remember she makes almost nothing from the basic fee, most of that goes to the establishment. So almost all of her income comes from whatever you decide to tip her. 300 k IDR is 21 US $. Plus maybe 10 US $ or something like that from the basic fee. That is not a lot of money for letting a stranger, usually older and less attractive guy, use your body. And of course the girls come from poverty and need every cent.
As I have written here before, I find it highly advantageous to be transparent tell her before the session: "good service, good tip; very good service, very good tip; very, very good service, very very good tip. Bad service, no tip". This doesn't always work, but often it does and it has sometimes given me some unbelievable performances. If she has a feeling you are a cheap charlie, she is going to be much less likely to put in a good effort.
A possible misunderstanding is that the girl may think "service" specifically means blowjob. I am not actually that preoccupied with blowjobs, so I also state up front some of the things I want, usually including passionate DFK and DATY. More kinky stuff I initiate more spontaneously in the session, and then it is up to her whether she wants to go for the big tip (and / or whether we happen to enjoy the same things). That is things like anal play (but not actual anal sex in Indonesia, their anuses are mostly too small), face sitting, drinking saliva, exchange of golden showers, rimming each other. If she ticks all of those boxes, but above all if she succeeds in giving me a feeling that she is really enjoying the sex and likes me, we're in the really big tip range, potentially a million. Paying a 19-year old with a pretty face and a perfect body a 70 buck tip to do those things I consider a bargain.