Jakarta

[Member #3088]

Got to try both of them last month. BATS on a Friday night. Was fun but like people said, is full of aged women. However fixated my eyes on a beauty that looked late 20's. Regular dance and stuff which I think makes it more GFE later to break the ice. Brought her back. While she was GFE, too loose for me to be able to enjoy. So not someone I would recommend.

Next stop was Delta and got the minimum 2 hour basic package. Ok massage. While she applied pressure, basic technique was missing. Entire session I was wondering what's on the menu. In the end it was just a hand driven effort which was a shame as I was expecting more. She didn't even allow me to touch. Anyone knows if more services are offered at Delta than what I got?

Delta standard is massage + HJ, that's it.

[PartyAnimal]

I used JW Marriott & LE Meridien Spas. The therapists are very attractive & pretty good service. If you are staying there, then you can request in room & no limits.

Bro. Would you explain what you mean by no limits? Have tried Marriott multiple times but only got clean massage.

[PartyAnimal]

Got to try both of them last month. BATS on a Friday night. Was fun but like people said, is full of aged women. However fixated my eyes on a beauty that looked late 20's. Regular dance and stuff which I think makes it more GFE later to break the ice. Brought her back. While she was GFE, too loose for me to be able to enjoy. So not someone I would recommend.

Next stop was Delta and got the minimum 2 hour basic package. Ok massage. While she applied pressure, basic technique was missing. Entire session I was wondering what's on the menu. In the end it was just a hand driven effort which was a shame as I was expecting more. She didn't even allow me to touch. Anyone knows if more services are offered at Delta than what I got?

[Keen Eye Joe 1]

I have read your post on blok m glad to know.

That My Bar is still open. I usually visit Jakarta 2-3.

Times a year for the past 20+years except for Covid.

I mostly frequented Top Gun now closed but I am.

A regular at MB.

I will return in Dec and haven't been there since.

The new law.

Question: did you have any issue with your friend.

Visiting the hotel?

Are there any special arrangements to be made.

Before with the hotel?

The Sotis Falatehan Hotel is located quite near to My Bar. The staff was extremely friendly and accommodating. I brought three girls to the hotel and the guards just waved me through. No one was manning the check-in desk due to the late hour of my conquests, as I returned to the hotel well after midnight. No prior arrangements were made with management. I cannot speak for policies at other hotels, but I have a feeling the Jakarta police department probably reserves their officers for higher priority tasks than dealing with late night horny foreigners.

[Bkk212]

I have read your post on blok m glad to know.

That My Bar is still open. I usually visit Jakarta 2-3.

Times a year for the past 20+years except for Covid.

I mostly frequented Top Gun now closed but I am.

A regular at MB.

I will return in Dec and haven't been there since.

The new law.

Question: did you have any issue with your friend.

Visiting the hotel?

Are there any special arrangements to be made.

Before with the hotel?

As expected, My Bar on the weekend after 11 pm was packed with both male / female customers and a fair number of apparent doable freelancers, with very few vacant seats. There's a sign inside that advertises sexy dancers on Friday and Saturday nights. Unfortunately there were no performers on Friday, but Saturday found four spinners dressed in sexy French maid outfits gyrating on the stage and on the counters for short performances, staying fully clothed. All were fairly cute, but one caught my eye and grabbed my libido from afar.

Her name is Ella, who was looking super sexy wearing silver fishnet stockings and high silver stripper shoes. Her sultry outfit, long hair, dark skin, beautiful set of teeth, pretty face, tiny body, and an ever present smile was more than enough to reel me in. During one of their long intermissions she was standing with the bar entourage, so I walked over and complimented her on the performance and handed her a Rp 50,000 bill.

Of course she's smart enough to appreciate the scent of an open wallet, so she soon came to my seat at the bar and we chatted for a few minutes. I offered to buy her a drink and she picked some weird looking flavored concoction. We seemed to hit it off pretty well, and before returning to the stage she asked if I wanted to take her home later.

Her price was Rp 1 million, which was certainly acceptable. The problem was the dancers would not be released from duty until after 5 am. The current time was around 2 am, and I'm sorry but there's no woman in the world enticing enough to keep me waiting until near sunrise. So I unfortunately declined, but said she hoped I would change my mind later.

Sunday night I returned to the bar, and it had returned to its normal mostly-empty self. I had planned on sitting this night out and just relaxing, but during beer #2 my gal Ella entered as a civilian. She rushed over as soon as she spotted me, and there was no way I was going to let her get away again. We downed a couple of beers and played a few rounds of pool as we chatted. She has a nice personality and was a lot of fun to hang out with. As the beer began to lower my resistance, I asked if she wanted to come to my room. She readily agreed, and we traipsed the 50 meter walk to the hotel while walking with our arms around each other like old lovers.

She provided the perfect GF experience. She's as cute as a button, sweet as honey, kissed like a committed girl friend, and rode me like a cowgirl. Definitely the kind of gal you'd consider packing inside your luggage to take home.

On Monday I spent some time walking around the nearby Blok M Square mall, a somewhat dilapidated multi-leveled building containing hundreds of kiosks selling all kinds of crap.

There are plenty of small massage shops on the upper floors, and several of the therapists were waving me over. On the top floor there was a particularly eager gal around 30 years old, who was easy on the eyes. The price at her shop was Rp 100,000, or around $7 USA I haven't had one in a couple of years, so I decided to partake.

I've had several massages in the Philippines, and all of them have been tame. But I was unprepared for today's rubdown to turn naughty.

There were three cubicle areas, separated by draped sheets. As I laid on the bed, I could hear the hand slapping and slight moaning of the guy next to me getting his legitimate massage. I felt a bit uncomfortable being within earshot of this customer, but I was already locked in.

My gal spent about 10 minutes massaging my legs as I laid on my stomach. But out of the blue, her hands started running higher and higher up my thigh. All of a sudden, she reached out and started milking the area between my bung hole and testicles. I've lived for over six decades and no woman has ever touched me in such a way before. Immediately my little friend stiffened up and I was the proud owner of a raging hard-on.

While straddling my legs, she leaned over and whispered in my ear, "we make love, fuck fuck". I asked for the price and she held up five fingers. Yeah, I overpaid but I wasn't going to let this memorable moment escape me.

After nodding my head yes, she slid off her panties and fumbled for a condom. She got on her back, spread her legs, and put her index finger against her lips to motion that we needed to be quiet.

So there I was, doinking this gal while laying a mere 2 to 3 feet away from my neighbor's head. I was able to thrust without any mattress noise, but she wrapped one of her hands behind my head to keep my head from moving and mouth from moaning as she was vigorously kissing me. This was my first time engaging in near-voyeuristic sex and the titillation definitely added to the excitement.

Finally after a few minutes I exploded, and suddenly we were done. I gave her the 500,000 and she didn't ask me for extra for the massage, so the effective price of the extra service was 400,000. I'd gladly pay it again to feel the tactile caress of a gentle hand rubbing my glans from behind.

To sum it up, I had another great visit in Jakarta. I have another trip scheduled during the Christmas holiday, but I've already made a reservation to stay in the Sarinah area and hit some new spots. My liver needs time to dry out after this trip.

[Banana Boi]

I have visited Jakarta multiple times. To date, I have NEVER been asked to show my Return Ticket.
I was asked about the reason for my visit and length of stay.

I have only been asked for this once on my many trips. I was a bit surprised I was asked. Since it was only a border run from Thailand I had one. I'm guessing it's totally random.

[BKKguru]

Just arrived this week and have a quick few tips about the airport experience I wish I knew beforehand. Make sure to bring CASH with you for the Visa on Arrival. I read online they accept credit cards but they were not when I arrived. The cost is 500,000 idr or 35 usd. There is an ATM but of course it was completely out of cash and I saw many travelers scrambling to ask the airport staff who were just as clueless (and a bit apathetic) as to what to do. Luckily the VoA people accept US dollars as well. Just hand them your passport and they will give you a VoA ticket that you take to the immigration officers who stamp your passport. It's good for 30 days and you are able to extend it for another 30 days later if you'd like. <snip>

One other thing, I read online Indonesia requires proof of onward travel. I bought a refundable ticket online just in case even though I had no set date of leaving yet. I've been asked for it before when traveling to other countries that require this, but this time no one asked to see it. <snip>

Quick question for the more experienced mongers here: what is a fair price from dating app girls to come see you? I've been using badoo and tantan to some success already, but strangely enough I have not had a single match on tinder but I think the app is not letting me like profiles for some reason. Anyways, one girl said she would stay all night until the next morning, and one girl said she can only stay for a few hours but is willing to have sex 2 times during our meeting. What would you say is a fair price for either of those situations? Curious to hear what other people have been / are willing to pay for this. Any advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks for sharing your experience.

On arrival, I always pay Cash (IDR or USD). Much easier and the people standing in line (behind you) will thank you. I was informed at the Airport that Credit Cards are NOT accepted.

I have visited Jakarta multiple times. To date, I have NEVER been asked to show my Return Ticket.
I was asked about the reason for my visit and length of stay.

When I meet girls via the dating Apps, 50% of the girls will discuss money in advance.
My Rule and limit is: 1 Juta + 200K for Taxi. 80% of the girls accept my offer. One 25 year old girl did tell me (after I met her) that I should "include more money".

When I visited a month later, she came to meet me again and accepted 1.2 Juta without comment.

Besides the money, it also comes down to how you treat the girl. When the girl arrives in my Room, I immediately offer them a bottle of water. If I have chocolates or fruit, I ask them if they want to munch. This breaks the ice and puts the girl at ease.

~BKKguru

[MSanchez]

For all cases above - 2 juta (2 million, 2000 k as a preemptive for those who can't google or FAQ). Seems the sweet spot for civilians in both ST and LT guises. Get along and ST more often than not ends up LT. Glad I'm not the only one finding Tinder a hard road. Still results, but more like 1 in 20 or 30 mid late 20's, 1 in 10 in 30's, and 1 in 50 or more below mid 20's. Bumble also ok, badoo too, not tried tan tan, better try getting wechat back, and there's a few others. Getting gold so you can move locations and preload also saves time. The moment data is established at airport, to arrival in room is a literal swipe fest. I have a sore finger by the time I get to a hotel.

HM1808, thanks for the input. Glad to see it was about what I was quoted. The LT girl asked for 2 juta, ready at 8 pm after she got off her waitress job but she left this morning around 7 am for work and wasn't up for a middle of the night 4 am quickie. Not a great body either, I'd only give her a strong 6 maybe, just average compared to the smokeshows at classic. But she was agreeable, spoke english enough, and GFE for the most part for better and worse. It was nice being hand fed by her a satay dinner ordered from grab after our first round.

The other girl I'm supposed to meet today for about 4 hours for 1. 2 juta. In my mind, both 1. 2ST and 2. 0 LT feel about 15% too high but maybe I'm just splitting hairs. But when you compare it to the going rate at Classic for the quality you get, I imagine nothing can live up to that standard and price point. I suppose it's only fair to pay a premium for having them come to you. But it would be nice if they all looked as good as the Classic girls. From now on I'll try offering 1. 0ST and 1. 5 LT, unless they're absolutely a solid 8, 9, or 10.

And GBear, thanks for the tip about the e-voa. I had a feeling that signing up for an account might be helpful, but I was running low on time and had a flight to catch. After spending almost an hour trying to get the website to work to no avail, my patience for it was already at its end.

[GentileBear]

Like MShanchez I could not get the E-VOA webpage to work. It took my photo's and then kept timing out. The Captcha thing would say I needed to Verify again. I noticed the Zip code was wrong and I had no idea what Provence to enter. So I tried another session by using Google maps and entered the whole formal addresses of hotel and it populated everything. Then it would not save and go to payment. I tried over 45 minutes with my info trying to get it to process. No errors. Just timed out. Then I decided to do it all over again on a different computer. But keeping my old session online.

Then I found the Secret! - MAKE AN ACCOUNT FIRST. See the system allows you to go straight to VOA / Tourist 30 Days. But if you start at the main Indonesian immigration site and "sign up" it will ask all the passport questions, let you load a picture. Then after email verification. You can simply Buy the Visa you need. So I think you need to have a verified email or an account first setup then it will go smoothly. It does take you to a 3rd party credit card processor (Finpay) - and my credit card provider Texted me an alert to accept or report as fraud. So watch out for that text alert too.

Peace!

[Hung Man 1808]

I tried to do the e-visa online but could not get the website to accept it for me. You have to upload both a digital passport photo and a photo of your passport page. I was finally able to upload both successfully, but it kept giving me an error saying my passport photo did not match the photo on my actual passport, which to be fair was taken almost 8 years ago now. But whatever facial recognition software they use would not accept it.

I love the new eVOA and customs barcode. Filled out before departing my country. Breezed through in both cases. I think I scanned my passport and edited the passport photo into just a photo and uploaded that. Happy days. I put thoughts about the likely standard of data privacy and cybersecurity within Indonesian government systems aside and am happy as. Bit bizarre they use a mobile phone to take a picture of your eVOA. But hey whatever gets you through. Also saves a double payment at the counter when ms immigrasi says 'card not work, please try again' Yeah like hell it didn't work, pity I didn't see that till later.

Quick question for the more experienced mongers here: what is a fair price from dating app girls to come see you? I've been using badoo and tantan to some success already, but strangely enough I have not had a single match on tinder but I think the app is not letting me like profiles for some reason. Anyways, one girl said she would stay all night until the next morning, and one girl said she can only stay for a few hours but is willing to have sex 2 times during our meeting. What would you say is a fair price for either of those situations? Curious to hear what other people have been / are willing to pay for this. Any advice would be much appreciated.

For all cases above - 2 juta (2 million, 2000 k as a preemptive for those who can't google or FAQ). Seems the sweet spot for civilians in both ST and LT guises. Get along and ST more often than not ends up LT. Glad I'm not the only one finding Tinder a hard road. Still results, but more like 1 in 20 or 30 mid late 20's, 1 in 10 in 30's, and 1 in 50 or more below mid 20's. Bumble also ok, badoo too, not tried tan tan, better try getting wechat back, and there's a few others. Getting gold so you can move locations and preload also saves time. The moment data is established at airport, to arrival in room is a literal swipe fest. I have a sore finger by the time I get to a hotel.

[MSanchez]

Just arrived this week and have a quick few tips about the airport experience I wish I knew beforehand. Make sure to bring CASH with you for the Visa on Arrival. I read online they accept credit cards but they were not when I arrived. The cost is 500,000 idr or 35 usd. There is an ATM but of course it was completely out of cash and I saw many travelers scrambling to ask the airport staff who were just as clueless (and a bit apathetic) as to what to do. Luckily the VoA people accept US dollars as well. Just hand them your passport and they will give you a VoA ticket that you take to the immigration officers who stamp your passport. It's good for 30 days and you are able to extend it for another 30 days later if you'd like.

Also, make sure to fill out your customs form online and it will give you a barcode. I recommend doing this the day before your flight, as you are allowed to do it up to 24 hours before you arrive. There is a QR code at the airport that brings you to the website, but I could not get the website to load at the airport using the airport wifi. Luckily my phone had international roaming data and the website would work using that internet but not the airport wifi. Go figure.

I tried to do the e-visa online but could not get the website to accept it for me. You have to upload both a digital passport photo and a photo of your passport page. I was finally able to upload both successfully, but it kept giving me an error saying my passport photo did not match the photo on my actual passport, which to be fair was taken almost 8 years ago now. But whatever facial recognition software they use would not accept it. The visa on arrival was painless for me though, it took a 5 minute wait in line and 30 seconds at the window so that was fortunate. The immigration line to get your passport stamped was a bit longer though, about 8 people in front of me took maybe 20 minutes or so. Then get your checked bags and wait in the customs line for another maybe 10 or 15 minutes. This was at 5 pm on a weekday, I imagine Mondays and Fridays would be worse.

I used the grab app to get to my hotel in Central Jakarta, it cost about 180,000 idr at 5 pm. Also I got a local sim card at the airport arrivals area. It cost 260,000 idr for supposedly "14 GB" for 1 month, but when I got back to my hotel I think I only have 8 GB. Maybe it's how they earn their cut or a straight up scam. But I would still do it again, as it seemed quite a hassle to get a SIM card here, they had to register it with the cell phone provider and verify the SIM card with my passport. It took about 10 minutes and they do everything for you, put in the sim card, test it for you to make sure it works, registration, etc.

One other thing, I read online Indonesia requires proof of onward travel. I bought a refundable ticket online just in case even though I had no set date of leaving yet. I've been asked for it before when traveling to other countries that require this, but this time no one asked to see it. The only semblance of the proof of onward travel rule was the immigration office asked me how long I planned to stay in Indonesia. But he never asked to see my plane ticket but maybe it was already in their system somehow. Once I got to my hotel I made sure to cancel my ticket for a full refund. If you buy a ticket to or from the USA there is a 24 hour rule that by law the airline has to refund your ticket if you purchase it at least a week in advance.

Quick question for the more experienced mongers here: what is a fair price from dating app girls to come see you? I've been using badoo and tantan to some success already, but strangely enough I have not had a single match on tinder but I think the app is not letting me like profiles for some reason. Anyways, one girl said she would stay all night until the next morning, and one girl said she can only stay for a few hours but is willing to have sex 2 times during our meeting. What would you say is a fair price for either of those situations? Curious to hear what other people have been / are willing to pay for this. Any advice would be much appreciated.

[Member #3088]

And getting pretty long in the tooth, but based upon multiple reports on Classic, decided to give it a try.

Two girls for 500 K for 90 minutes. 19 and 20 years old, good natured and cooperative, both from Bogor, slender and pretty. Really a remarkable deal.

Mamasans are a pain. I brushed them off politely and had brief conversations with candidates directly; since I was interested in two girls, I wanted to be sure that they.

Could work together. They could, and did. I arrived at 5 pm -- the place was packed with girls and wasn't yet too noisy. By the time I left -- 630 pm or so -- the place had more customers, more smoke, and more noise. Not my style. Just sex, please.

But in the end there's nothing like GFE with a real GF -- now in a LTR with a 28 yo civilian. Best sex of my now quite long life. Yes, you can get GFE from hookers in Indonesia, but.

The GFE from a real GF can evolve into something exceptional. So really no need to go back to Classic as that itch has been scratched.

Another note -- I few weeks ago I also tried Malioboro -- greedy staff, good looking but uncooperative girl, and expensive. Forget it.

[GentileBear]

That's the Grand Mercure Harmony hotel?

Is it walkable from Classic?

Ibis Jakarta Harmoni & Spa, apparently a 15 min walk to Classic or very short Grab / Taxi ride. Has a McDonalds immediately next to it that makes it a good "see you at McDonalds in 2 minutes. " for Online dates.

[Hung Man 1808]

I'll try not to talk about myself (it's a boring topic anyway OS) and stick to some info updates, with a bit of focus on the pre and post covid world of Jakarta. Done a few visits post covid, another coming up.

A definite change has occurred in attitude and access after covid. One notable point was the loss of past long term reliable providers to marriages in order to survive during the pandemic. One major PITA but also majorly enjoyable contact got married and is now kampung forever hope that hubby enjoys doggie, it's a fantastic sight. Another married off but returned partially due to funding requirements but apparently it's too hard to find customers now. Also noteworthy is these providers were all tinder based, and focused on bule. Locals ignored. Locals also won't pay the rate either. Also 'managed' by a handler who did the tinder profiles etc, but that's another story.

Speaking of the socials, that's still a decent source, but way more work and luck required if you are older and seeking younger. Pre-covid it was the literal don't even fire the gun the fish will jump out of the barrel. Now I can't recall a meet up response below 25 (I'm not near 25 BTW) in the last few years. Good responses received and met but more trawling required. So if you want young, dumb and full of your cum, it's off to the 'hotels'.

That means Classic, Travel etc etc. For various reasons, my point of reference pre-covid was FM7 near Central Park next to the tollway to the airport. Much fun has been had there cheaply with young girls mostly willing to do things I requested (extra trip does help. Not breaking the bank tips either). That isn't convenient anymore (I'm not sure it is even open, hard to tell), and so for the first time in maybe 10 years I hit up Classic earlier this year.

What I found in Classic was:

Mamasans are quite possibly the shiftiest, nastiest pieces of work in existence. Used car salesmen (it's always men eh?) appear saintly in comparison. No that girl not available (cause it's not one of mine), tip me to talk to you, offence when you turn down the worst girl in the place they foist on you, and one other trick that has been mentioned but not detected as a trick here: pay Mami cash, don't put the girl on your bracelet number. No, don't do that, cause if you keep doing it and never put a girl on your number, you're up for the 350 k or so entry charge for not indulging when you go to settle. Pretty sure Mami avoids losing a small cut to the bar too. I insisted to put it on the number, they whined and lied saying cannot, but it ended up on there so I paid at the counter on the way out for all girls. And paid just for the room sessions as a result.

The girls are as good as you are going to find anywhere, if you are looking for cute, pretty, teenage or early 20's sexy girls. Out of three girls (one taken twice too) all had no babies, had great bodies, were persuadable (that's never going on there babe, can we come to an arrangement more tip? Literally hehe) and no starfish. The repeat had the most incredible breasts I think I have seen (and thanks to Indonesia, I've seen heaps). For 350 k plus tip of 200 k to 350 k (told you they could be persuaded) you're not going to find a better combo consistently. No I can't remember their names (pretty sure the repeat had a different name too on second go). Ok I recall one name, because I have her whatsapp, which basically presents opportunities for her to plead for money for everything. Will see if it also can result in a hotel visit pre her shift soon, or a request to just drop by Classic.

Travel likely also ok (also a decade or so when I last visited, but I did regular visits 15-20 years ago which moved from super fun to annoying) as well as places along / near Mangga Besar. Much fun has been had here, but most of it was a long time ago. Today Country (RIP) you are sorely missed, but never, ever, ever forgotten.

Apart from a brief mention of the impact of Onlyfans / send video for fee impact, which took a really fun reliable sexy girl pre-covid to a scamming / whining 'send me taxi money to get to you and then never show' kinda girl (and she's not alone in that 'progression') we're onto the no. 1 place bules meet ceweks: CJs and BATS.

I've been attending these places for two decades now. So have a lot of the 'girls' who can be found there these days. There are some attractive ones, but they are few and far between, and in their 30's. I have met one in her 20's there pre-covid, who has moved from not cheap but really worthwhile for staying over, to more expensive but now short time if she can be prised from the Asian clientele who tend to dominate CJs these days. 3. 5 juta seems to be the rate (these girls make cartels seem amateurish) and that's short time which I found out taking a pretty mid 30's girl who pointed it out post negotiation (when I'm thinking long time). 2 juta also possible for the occasional visitor, and 1. 5 juta from BATS when I said I wasn't actually looking for someone but she thought I was fun. Gave me something to do in the morning anyway boom boom!

BATS incidentally is more bule, more ibu ibu too unfortunately. For those who haven't heard of Google Translate, ibu is typically on the high side of MILF, approaching GILF.

Compare 3. 5 juta (ok, 3,500 k) short time in your hotel (plus drinks and oh boy do you know about the drink prices at CJs) for a mid 30's attractive MILF, vs 700 k for ST room plus high end tip for a teenage girl with a body and face that isn't out of place in the model (or porn) world over at classic (or FM7, or Travel).

Finally blok M. Apart from My Bar at 3 am, don't bother. Last resort even then. Same girls pretty much as EP. If you score one at EP, you'll end up at My Bar anyway. EP = Eastern Promise. Lots of promise, not much delivery.

And pricing. Based on hazy memory, I tried lining up what I used to pay 15 years ago vs what I pay now, accounting for FX and inflation. The quick adjusted result is: classic, travel etc have become cheaper, CJs / Bats / freelancers have become rather expensive.

Speaking of price: apart from tips at Classic, all payments to girls were electronic. Straight from Wise to their bank (BCA typically). Helps in gaining real names / numbers / emails etc. You're also exposed, but I don't care. You may. Finding ATMs and pulling out stupid amounts of cash has got old.

There's more but I think that's enough for now!

[Offshore Swell]

Does any Jakarta OGs know much about the bars along Raya Cilincing? I know it looks super dodgy at night, but that's how I like it.

It looks like a street with 10+ bars such as New Dinasty, New Ale Ale, Dream Bar, Atlantik. From the moto Vlogs on youtube, New Dinasty has about 20+ girls sitting on the outside.

Does anyone know how much is it and how to play here? I've scoured all the english and indo forums and nothing comes up.

You go in, buy beer, organise one of the girls to come and have a beer with you. Negotiate a trip to one of the nearby short term hotels is my understanding and exe.

Send me a PM, this is a spot OS has been meaning to go try for a long time and would be happy to team up if you are local, at worst you would have a good fun night bar hopping, building up your cumulative knowledge of how the place works with each bar. By the end you would be a veteran.