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  1. #17474

    Food recommendations near holiday inn Gaja Mada

    Any good places to eat decent food near this hotel or any places to eat in general you would recommend?

  2. #17473

    Paragon?

    Good informative post. Does anyone know about Paragon. I mean where is it and how good is it. Comparable to classic, or not! Has anyone visited.

    Quote Originally Posted by Querqusek  [View Original Post]
    My second trip to Indonesia. I was not expecting to much as this is Ramadan.

    However I was very positively surprised at Classic.

    I've entered the club around 8. 30 pm on Monday. There were much less mongers compared to what I saw in January and there were still lots of ladies.

    This time I allowed first mamasam that approached me to make arrangement. I've asked specifically for slim and either tall or short girl. She brought 2. Both were great. Slim, and one was around 170 and second around 150, maybe less. She saw my hesitation and tried to convince me to take both but my previous experience with duet what not good. So I've decided for petite one called 'Niya'.

    'Niya' was not speaking English. Google translator was needed. She was 20. Maybe even less than 150 cm, slim, nice shape of tits between A and be, very sensitive to touch. Body shape proportional, delicate skin, pretty young face. Really good look. I would say even 9.

    Started with shower as with previous encounters. When we've moved to bed I've realised what some of you meant when advising to take one girl not two at classic. It was much easier to build the connection, gentle persuasion and some guiding did the job. She allowed me to give her a plesure orally first and after few minutes she allowed me to penetrate her with fingers. Once I was sure she enjoyed it I've asked for unprotected blowjob. This was amazing. She has managed to take whole dick in her mouth and allowed gentle deep throat. I've never experienced DT with Asian. I've showed her some technics on porhub and she were following it perfectly. I've got maybe 3 or 4 that good blowjobs overall with some Europeans.

    We've started sex with her on top. She said that it was painful so we've changed to different variants of classic and finished with diggystyle. After sex I've asked her to lick my dick to clean it. She laughed and said she will not do this. I've showed her another porhub movie and she did it. I think that those movies were turning her on somehow. I've left her 200 k tip and we've left the room.

    On my way back to hotel I got a chat with Grab driver about classic and other venues. It turned out that he is a regular visitor there. He names all the places that you can see in the reviews. Classic, Travel and Paragon. He has pointed out that Classic has usually biggest choice of girls so he ends up there most often. I've asked about Loksari and his advice was to stay away from the place. He was mentioning that police does drug raids there and it may happen that they may drop something off to your pocket during a raid.

    When I got back to hotel I've realized that I forgot to ask her for what's up number. Anyway. Great Monday evening.

  3. #17472

    Lokasari

    Quote Originally Posted by FutureGuy  [View Original Post]
    It's actually 4 different girls.

    I will be in Jakarta next time from 24. March to 8. April. Anyways, I'd like to repeat:

    Lokasari is particularly suitable for a certain way of meeting girls: BBFS CIP in your own hotel / AirBnB for an affordable price. If you're only plan on meeting girls directly at Lokasari you will always interact with the pushy mamasans and in addition you have to pay 180 for a questionable small hotel room. In that case Travel or Classic is the better experience. You may not get BBFS all the time (for a price) and the girls are a somewhat older. But it's more convenient (better rooms and indoors).

    However, for Lokasari girls if you're staying around North Jakarta and for more than a week, you can start collecting Whatsapp numbers. You essentially only need to meet 2-3 girls directly at Lokasari and they will start bringing the other girls or friends directly to your hotel. Or meet you at your hotel themselves. Take their numbers. Talk to them on Whatsapp later and setup future meetings. That's the easiest strategy to regularly meet girls at your own room, if you prefer that. Sure you can pay 2 or 3 million for a girl on Tinder. But they do not look any better and BBFS is not guaranteed. With Lokasari girls you meet them for 400 and BBFS is included. Girls from Travel or Classic are not generally available for visits, as they are expected to be at the club from afternoon to after midnight.
    The Whatsapp method sounds like exactly what works best for me. Meet a few through the mamasans and then get some contacts for future meetings. Do you happen to have any of the girls's numbers you could shoot to me privately? I will be in Jakarta probably starting in June. Cheers mate.

  4. #17471
    I was in Jakarta for a week and had a great time at my usual haunts. The last day though turned out to be probably the worst day of the trip.

    I've posted before what a good punting day looks like, so I won't go into detail about all of my punting days.

    But on this trip, I bedded the perfect 18 year old BBFS. The service wasn't totally perfect, no DFK and no 69 which really get me in the mood, but she was perfect. 9. 5 looks, 10 body.

    Also had a great massage with a beauty, and in the end I thought it was legit, ready to dress and leave when I was pleasantly shocked when she asked if I'd like additional services. She started by offering only HJ for a 600 tip, but I teased the situation and told her I'd really like a BBBJ. Was certain she was going to tell me no, but surprised me when she said 1 M. Of course, I play around and tell her that for 1 M, I could get FJ and she bounced back asking if I wanted FJ which would cost me 1. 5 M. At least we're talking here right? She was pretty beyond belief and I was surprised we even got to this point because I was certain that after the massage, I was leaving. So I caved for the 1. 5 M FJ. During the foreplay and B2 B and BBBJ, I slid into her bare and she responded 2 M. LOL. Maybe she wasn't as conservative as I had thought. Ended up 2. 4 M out the door for a 1 HR great massage plus 45 minute incredible BBBJ BBFJ session. It was expensive, but really by how much? 1 M? I walked off the heavy price tag.

    The last day was a total mess. Started by going to be Fashion where I expected pretty high level service. Ended up 1. 4 M out the door for a covered session with a meh therapist. At any other joint, this would have been worth 700 k at best.

    Then after a 7 hour break, I was ready to go punting again. Took a ride to Lokasari to test out what you boys are recently posting. Intended to just walk around but I was wrangled by the 3 witches of Lokasari peddling their wares. 15 photos in their phone, 3 ladies hanging around the famous hotel, and this time around, I was walked to a different location. Just so you boys get the idea, you walk to the back of the minishops on the right hand side, take the big side street that's back there (on the right hand side), walk north until you're behind actually the Lokasari Mall, then turn left into the little housing block where the dirty ass apartments are. All the way in the back maybe 80 meters, the complex turns right, and you see a really cleaned up exterior of a small 2 story or 3 story "hotel". It's not really a hotel. But inside are dirty ass apartments where working girls are living. I saw a stunning hotty, and MMS knew she had me on a hook. Negotiated 500 which I thought came with the room. When I'm upstairs, paid the 500, and ready to drop my pants, she hits me for 100 for the room. Damn. 600 k in. Paid up front and that's where the big mistake happened.

    Service was total shit. No kiss, no touching, no BBBJ, no 69, no DATY, no bbfj. Everything was no. I knew I was played. So I stood up and told her I was going to inform ibu what was happening.

    Ibu was actually really remorseful. She understood that this was going to generate negativity. But the cash was already held by some spook who jetted the area and was no where to be found. So she was trying to tell me that she's good for the credit and if I wanted any other girl, she'd pay for it and take care of things. I told her I wasn't interested and didn't have time. So in the end, I told her she should go back to that girl and take back all her money and keep it herself. Nothing else I could do but just suffer the 600 k loss.

    Last stop was one of my fave places and I picked a stunner at the fishbowl. Unfortunately once all of the clothes came off, it was pretty clear that she's a MILF with a milfy body, enough make up to look like a rodeo clown, and it just didn't feel like a fit even though I dropped batter inside. Milfy is loose cooch, loose belly, loose arm flesh and buttocks. Typically shot out a replicant not more than a year ago. Service wasn't terrible, but it wasn't my best moment. Out the door for 400+300. Yes, 300 is a strong tip, but my purpose is not to destroy the economy for your cheap punters. There's just little point in worrying about the difference between 100,200, or 300 when it's literally 6. 50 USD for each 100 right now. And she's got a kid to feed.

    But yes, the other 6 nights before that last night were incredible. Love this city, culture, people, economy.

  5. #17470
    Quote Originally Posted by GaijinGigolo  [View Original Post]
    Sounds like BKKGuru is just scared to be somewhere where he isn't surrounded by other foreigners. Hardly a "guru. " The chick you posted pix of is hot. Love the small, slim bodies of these Indo girls.
    It's actually 4 different girls.

    I will be in Jakarta next time from 24. March to 8. April. Anyways, I'd like to repeat:

    Lokasari is particularly suitable for a certain way of meeting girls: BBFS CIP in your own hotel / AirBnB for an affordable price. If you're only plan on meeting girls directly at Lokasari you will always interact with the pushy mamasans and in addition you have to pay 180 for a questionable small hotel room. In that case Travel or Classic is the better experience. You may not get BBFS all the time (for a price) and the girls are a somewhat older. But it's more convenient (better rooms and indoors).

    However, for Lokasari girls if you're staying around North Jakarta and for more than a week, you can start collecting Whatsapp numbers. You essentially only need to meet 2-3 girls directly at Lokasari and they will start bringing the other girls or friends directly to your hotel. Or meet you at your hotel themselves. Take their numbers. Talk to them on Whatsapp later and setup future meetings. That's the easiest strategy to regularly meet girls at your own room, if you prefer that. Sure you can pay 2 or 3 million for a girl on Tinder. But they do not look any better and BBFS is not guaranteed. With Lokasari girls you meet them for 400 and BBFS is included. Girls from Travel or Classic are not generally available for visits, as they are expected to be at the club from afternoon to after midnight.

  6. #17469

    Lokasari

    Quote Originally Posted by FutureGuy  [View Original Post]
    I'm really confused. I have been at Lokasari numerous times in 2022 and 2023. In my last post I'm showing pictures of the typical kind of girl that I get numbers from there (and meet them at my AirBnB). They are generally younger and somewhat better looking than at Travel Hotel these days (the latter one admittedly has worse quality that pre-covid). So I don't understand your comment of scraping at the bottom and a previous about old / horrible looking girls. Yes, there are old women. But these are the mamasans (All the way to the end is the Lokasari shopping mall with the Hari Hari supermarket on top. To the left are restaurants and a KTV place (and at the very end the back entrance of the Olympic Hotel, that I used multiple times). Maybe I was there during a different time of the year than you have been. But I can't recall much of "rough characters". Nothing that you won't find at any other street in north Jakarta.

    According to the UN-OCD (UN office on crime), Indonesia got a homicide rate of just 0,4 per 100.000 people. For USA it's 6,4 per 100.000 people. Mexico / Colombia as popular mongering locations for US based folks are at 26/25 per 100.000 people. Anywhere in Indonesia. Except Papua of course! - is safer than the US and practically every other mongering location on earth, according to the UN. It's safer than freaking Germany with it's FKK clubs. And Thailand. And Phillipines. It looks bad, sure, due to the state of disrepair in the North. Therefore Jakarta will never draw much tourists. But it's not unsafe compared to the US.

    As it so happends I will be back in Jakarta at the end of March. If you or another forum member happens to be around, I'm more than willing to meetup around Lokasari / Travel to discuss the landscape.
    Sounds like BKKGuru is just scared to be somewhere where he isn't surrounded by other foreigners. Hardly a "guru. " The chick you posted pix of is hot. Love the small, slim bodies of these Indo girls.

  7. #17468
    Quote Originally Posted by FutureGuy  [View Original Post]

    As it so happends I will be back in Jakarta at the end of March. If you or another forum member happens to be around, I'm more than willing to meetup around Lokasari / Travel to discuss the landscape.
    I will be there 10th April onwards.

  8. #17467

    Unfortunate

    It's unfortunate when some tout tells you to F. O. , even more so when you are in a foreign country. Not a pleasant experience. I'm happy it wasn't me but sometimes when you go abroad these things happen. And if that beauty as posted below, is the bottom of the barrel from Lokasari… well…I'll gladly have some of that.

    Quote Originally Posted by FutureGuy  [View Original Post]

    At Lokasari (7 minutes on foot from Travel) you will find the usual girls, as they are all local girls from North Jakarta. See my previous posts about that place. Prices are 400-450 for BBFS CIP (bring your own lubrication! Either you have your own hotel or you have to pay another 200 for that. I'm generally meeting these girls at my AirBnB and I'm attaching some pictures to give an impression of choices.
    .

  9. #17466

    Classic during Ramadan

    My second trip to Indonesia. I was not expecting to much as this is Ramadan.

    However I was very positively surprised at Classic.

    I've entered the club around 8. 30 pm on Monday. There were much less mongers compared to what I saw in January and there were still lots of ladies.

    This time I allowed first mamasam that approached me to make arrangement. I've asked specifically for slim and either tall or short girl. She brought 2. Both were great. Slim, and one was around 170 and second around 150, maybe less. She saw my hesitation and tried to convince me to take both but my previous experience with duet what not good. So I've decided for petite one called 'Niya'.

    'Niya' was not speaking English. Google translator was needed. She was 20. Maybe even less than 150 cm, slim, nice shape of tits between A and be, very sensitive to touch. Body shape proportional, delicate skin, pretty young face. Really good look. I would say even 9.

    Started with shower as with previous encounters. When we've moved to bed I've realised what some of you meant when advising to take one girl not two at classic. It was much easier to build the connection, gentle persuasion and some guiding did the job. She allowed me to give her a plesure orally first and after few minutes she allowed me to penetrate her with fingers. Once I was sure she enjoyed it I've asked for unprotected blowjob. This was amazing. She has managed to take whole dick in her mouth and allowed gentle deep throat. I've never experienced DT with Asian. I've showed her some technics on porhub and she were following it perfectly. I've got maybe 3 or 4 that good blowjobs overall with some Europeans.

    We've started sex with her on top. She said that it was painful so we've changed to different variants of classic and finished with diggystyle. After sex I've asked her to lick my dick to clean it. She laughed and said she will not do this. I've showed her another porhub movie and she did it. I think that those movies were turning her on somehow. I've left her 200 k tip and we've left the room.

    On my way back to hotel I got a chat with Grab driver about classic and other venues. It turned out that he is a regular visitor there. He names all the places that you can see in the reviews. Classic, Travel and Paragon. He has pointed out that Classic has usually biggest choice of girls so he ends up there most often. I've asked about Loksari and his advice was to stay away from the place. He was mentioning that police does drug raids there and it may happen that they may drop something off to your pocket during a raid.

    When I got back to hotel I've realized that I forgot to ask her for what's up number. Anyway. Great Monday evening.

  10. #17465
    Quote Originally Posted by BKKguru  [View Original Post]
    I agree with your assessment.
    If you see a Police Van parked outside the Compound entrance gate, run in the other direction.

    Pre-Covid, Lokasari was raided multiple times for drug transactions.
    If you walk past the KFC all the way to the end and make a left turn, you will see rough looking characters after 11 pm. They are sitting in the parking lot waiting for Customers.

    Lokasari is for locals who cannot affort to visit Classic or any other Clubs. They are looking for a girl for 300,000 Rupiah or less. You are scraping the bottom by visiting this place.

    I have no idea why another Member is hyping this place.
    I won't pass judgement. You can decide for yourself.

    ~BKKguru
    I'm really confused. I have been at Lokasari numerous times in 2022 and 2023. In my last post I'm showing pictures of the typical kind of girl that I get numbers from there (and meet them at my AirBnB). They are generally younger and somewhat better looking than at Travel Hotel these days (the latter one admittedly has worse quality that pre-covid). So I don't understand your comment of scraping at the bottom and a previous about old / horrible looking girls. Yes, there are old women. But these are the mamasans (All the way to the end is the Lokasari shopping mall with the Hari Hari supermarket on top. To the left are restaurants and a KTV place (and at the very end the back entrance of the Olympic Hotel, that I used multiple times). Maybe I was there during a different time of the year than you have been. But I can't recall much of "rough characters". Nothing that you won't find at any other street in north Jakarta.

    According to the UN-OCD (UN office on crime), Indonesia got a homicide rate of just 0,4 per 100.000 people. For USA it's 6,4 per 100.000 people. Mexico / Colombia as popular mongering locations for US based folks are at 26/25 per 100.000 people. Anywhere in Indonesia. Except Papua of course! - is safer than the US and practically every other mongering location on earth, according to the UN. It's safer than freaking Germany with it's FKK clubs. And Thailand. And Phillipines. It looks bad, sure, due to the state of disrepair in the North. Therefore Jakarta will never draw much tourists. But it's not unsafe compared to the US.

    As it so happends I will be back in Jakarta at the end of March. If you or another forum member happens to be around, I'm more than willing to meetup around Lokasari / Travel to discuss the landscape.

  11. #17464
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve99  [View Original Post]
    <snip> First day wondered into Loskari where an aggressive and pushy pimp got rude and aggressive when I didn't want his girls. Haven't been back of course, could be dangerous.
    I agree with your assessment.
    If you see a Police Van parked outside the Compound entrance gate, run in the other direction.

    Pre-Covid, Lokasari was raided multiple times for drug transactions.
    If you walk past the KFC all the way to the end and make a left turn, you will see rough looking characters after 11 pm. They are sitting in the parking lot waiting for Customers.

    Lokasari is for locals who cannot affort to visit Classic or any other Clubs. They are looking for a girl for 300,000 Rupiah or less. You are scraping the bottom by visiting this place.

    I have no idea why another Member is hyping this place.
    I won't pass judgement. You can decide for yourself.

    ~BKKguru

  12. #17463

    Short Jakarta report.

    Been here 4 days. First day wondered into Loskari where an aggressive and pushy pimp got rude and aggressive when I didn't want his girls. Haven't been back of course, could be dangerous. Had 2 days sick but recovered enough to go to Travel hotel, lots of girls sitting around but was lumbered with one mamasan, quite friendly but tried to push some less than desirable girls in my direction. She eventually conjured up some more decent girls of which I chose one. Turned out passable rather than good or bad, a bit mechanical. The average age and appearance of the girls on this Sunday night would be on par with the beer bar girls in Pattaya rather than the younger, slimmer gogo girls. Of course I noticed a few more younger ones as I was leaving. As a white old middle aged git I can't expect too much of course.

  13. #17462

    Ramdan + Travel / Lokasari

    Quote Originally Posted by JuneFly  [View Original Post]
    I booked non-refundable trip Mar 21-26 without realizing it coincides with Ramadan (Mar 10 - Apr 9) and seeking suggestions where and how to make the most of my trip during this time without it being an utter flop. Is there a complete shutdown of bars, clubs, massage parlors throughout the entire period or if it's only for a few days at the start and end of Ramadan. What about Classic, Travel, and establishments in and around Blok M and other areas?
    As posted previously: quite a few of the girls have family in different parts of Indonesia and will visit these places for most of Ramadan. It's like Thanks Giving and Christmas combined.

    Careful: many places will give the impression to be closed. But that's not necessarily true. E. g. The main entrance to the underground girls club at Travel Hotel is officially closed during Ramadan. However: there is a covert second entrance, not visible to the public. You have to ask the guards (using Google translate) about directions. The number of girls will be about half the usual number and most will arrive after sunset. As the girls are indeed strapped for cash just before and until late Ramadan, they are more eager to please (still the standard rate applies - 375 for covert sex).

    At Lokasari (7 minutes on foot from Travel) you will find the usual girls, as they are all local girls from North Jakarta. See my previous posts about that place. Prices are 400-450 for BBFS CIP (bring your own lubrication! Either you have your own hotel or you have to pay another 200 for that. I'm generally meeting these girls at my AirBnB and I'm attaching some pictures to give an impression of choices.
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  14. #17461
    Quote Originally Posted by CDawg3141  [View Original Post]
    I'm in the same boat and would like to know. I've RTFF and I've come to the conclusion that while there will be less girls (like 50% less), that leaves plenty enough to have fun. Another poster said the tail end of Ramadan is when things shutdown.
    Pro Tip: the two weeks BEFORE Ramadan is THE BEST time to be in town as girls of all persuasions try to make extra money to fund the trip back home and the associated presents etc.

    G.

    P.S. You are correct about there still being many many girls in town. You won't starve. 😁.

  15. #17460
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    The guy posts no info useful for anyone, only props himself up, trolls, teases, insults and pisses off readers, typical narcissist who works hard everyday to make himself look cute. His pics with the nasty pussies and someone's tiny, shriveled dick is ugly, stupid and ridiculous. But he thinks they are very cute. Everyone can asee through his stupid game.

    Got to admit Admins are pretty fair and patient, know what they are doing, know exactly what's good or bad for the forum and readers.

    Not surprised if this nasty troll will be banned permanently. In mean time just avoid him like stupid shit.
    I totally support the admins on moderation. At times, it is disheartening to see someone mocked because of differences in opinions. It doesn't change because someone has a better knowledge of a particular area, so they can get away with treating others badly in public. In the end, it's the quality information that is welcomed by readers, not the opinions, IMHO. Having a bit of a sense of humour helps, but not by hurting others at the same time.

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