Jakarta

[Pwrmnd]

KI was closed tonight. I think all the massage places were. They had told me they would not close, but presumably orders came from above. The doormen confidently assured me they would be open tomorrow.

I visited Lokasari plaza around 8 PM. I only saw maybe one freelancer. It might have been too early.

A girl on Tinder wanted to come over but only if I had a guaranteed supply of vodka. (I didn't) I'm not sure how that would have played out. On one previous occasion, in BKK, I had a girl who really wanted to get drunk with me. That was a crazy night, but I didn't enjoy the part where I babysat a drunk girl.

[JSmithJ88]

Came back after all the Covid BS. Can't believe how many people still wear masks here even outside. Just ridiculous but then inside room panties down and masks off. If you are too scared to go to low end places don't go there. I was many times to kalijodo before and it was great. These days I do home delivery and I still pay same price than 3 years ago. Of course some girls push for more. I just told them get lost. Why can't guys say no these days and act like men? There would be less stupid cunts asking for 1 juta on dating sites for example. I just tell them why I pay 1 juta for 1 when I can have 2 for 500? Like in Classic. Why guys tip for bad service? Even for normal one I don't. I tip for extraordinary not fuck and BJ. That's what I already paid for. So for ok BJ and condom use why should I tip? No way.

Yea I agree. I found it very weird to see people wearing it in places like classic.

Unless it is an attempt to hide from the smoking LOL.

[Acroe]

Hey,

Does anyone have tips on where to buy lingerie? Gmaps has a few upmarket plaves like La Senza listed but I'm looking for something cheaper and trashier.

Seems to be a lot of mail order places online but I prefer browsing in person.

Cheers.

[HelloYou]

Sounds like a very greedy mami. I m sure nobody pays 350 there. As a bule you pay 200 max so locals surely don't pay more than 150. As a customer nothing to worry about.

I got quote 300 few times. I of course refused. I noticed they increase the price when they see you don't speak the language.

But typical price is 200. They often say 170 so that you give 200 for the girl and expecting you to leave them the change.

Its a bit of an STD place as most girls don t use condoms. I had to bring them myself.

[HelloYou]

Sorry but this report is too vague.

Exactly where was this police raid? At the train tracks? Or nearby? And who was arrested. Working girls? The pimps? Male Indonesian customers? Foreigners? Were they arresting people for sexual activity, drugs, or something else?

Assuming no drugs are involved, the police are unlikely to arrest any foreigner (too much work); if they threaten it (assuming they even speak English), a small cash "donation" can help smooth things.

I don't know anymore than that. Apparently they were arresting everyone. The girl I talk to is not very talkative. I tried to get more info but she is ignoring me now for asking too many questions.

[Muzungufotsy]

- 39 prostitutes arrested at the railway tracks.

- 35 adults and 4 minors.

- Some said they charged Rp350 k per session, with the mamasan receiving Rp310 k and the prostitute only 40 k.

- Some see up to 11 customers per day, whilst others sometimes won't even see one.

Sounds like a very greedy mami. I m sure nobody pays 350 there. As a bule you pay 200 max so locals surely don't pay more than 150. As a customer nothing to worry about.

[Pwrmnd]

I visited Orchards Jayakarta (in Jakarta). It was difficult to find the spa, because it's hidden behind the hotel. I suppose they like to keep it on the down-low. I stopped here, despite the lack of reviews, because it was convenient to my hotel and I was looking for more than just a quick romp. I previously had a good session at another Orchardz nearby (Industri) but it seemed like they charged me more than others had reported and they wouldn't let me pick the girl. So I tried here instead. It was a similar deal. They wanted 910 k for everything, which seemed a bit high. It might be for 90 minutes, but she didn't say. On the board I could see that about 11 therapists were busy and another 5 or 6 were potentially available. I asked to see pics. Instead she asked what I like ("very thin") and wanted to just take me to a room with the girl. Said I could ask for another girl if I didn't like her. Well, the girl wasn't thin at all; she was tall with a bit of a belly. When I declined she brought out two slightly better looking ones that were almost passable, but I again declined. I think that this place could be a good option if you could somehow get with the prettiest of the 20 girls working there, but they make that very difficult for an outsider. I gather that it is popular with regulars who book in advance. It seems much more peaceful and luxurious than the cheaper spa options. She pointed out that I could book in advance, yet couldn't explain how I would know whom to book.

I got myself a Grab back to KI. I had been to New Saru Ayu, but wanted to try a new place. So I went into Starmoon. They had about 35 girls on display. It was well lit, though they it was awkward to get close, they were sitting, and packed in. I told the mamasan I wanted a thin girl and let her do the work for me. She first brought over a short chunky girl, perhaps to test my definition of "thin". Then she found another one that I hadn't seen yet because she was behind a pole. This girl was small and cute. Bingo. I paid my 400 k and went to the room. The room itself was a bit small, but adequate for the task. This girl had a hot body. She was thin yet still well-endowed up top. More importantly, she was one of the firmest girls I've had the pleasure of fondling. And tight. Said she was 21. Like most of the girls in Jakarta joints like this, she had a good attitude and was compliant but didn't bother to simulate any romance. They seem to all follow the same script.

All of the places I've been to so far insisted they would be open during Ramadan. Let's see.

[Kopi Hitam]

Here is one article for anyone who can read Indonesian and wants to summarize.

https://aceh.tribunnews.com/2023/03/...-hidung-belang

- 39 prostitutes arrested at the railway tracks.

- 35 adults and 4 minors.

- Some said they charged Rp350 k per session, with the mamasan receiving Rp310 k and the prostitute only 40 k.

- Some see up to 11 customers per day, whilst others sometimes won't even see one.

[Offshore Swell]

Hello.

That's bad. I wonder what would happen to us, customers, if we get caught? I really don't want to go to prison 😭

Well you are in luck!. Unlike in America where those big negro boys in prison would be just waiting to impale you with their gigantic schlongs. The average size of an Indonesian one is much smaller so the brown love will be much more comfortable for you.

[Muzungufotsy]

Came back after all the Covid BS. Can't believe how many people still wear masks here even outside. Just ridiculous but then inside room panties down and masks off. If you are too scared to go to low end places don't go there. I was many times to kalijodo before and it was great. These days I do home delivery and I still pay same price than 3 years ago. Of course some girls push for more. I just told them get lost. Why can't guys say no these days and act like men? There would be less stupid cunts asking for 1 juta on dating sites for example. I just tell them why I pay 1 juta for 1 when I can have 2 for 500? Like in Classic. Why guys tip for bad service? Even for normal one I don't. I tip for extraordinary not fuck and BJ. That's what I already paid for. So for ok BJ and condom use why should I tip? No way.

[NoGermaphobe]

Sorry but this report is too vague.

Exactly where was this police raid? At the train tracks? Or nearby? And who was arrested. Working girls? The pimps? Male Indonesian customers? Foreigners? Were they arresting people for sexual activity, drugs, or something else?

Assuming no drugs are involved, the police are unlikely to arrest any foreigner (too much work); if they threaten it (assuming they even speak English), a small cash "donation" can help smooth things.

Here is one article for anyone who can read Indonesian and wants to summarize.

https://aceh.tribunnews.com/2023/03/...-hidung-belang

[Pwrmnd]

I didn't have much luck with Tinder this trip. There were a lot of messages passing back and forth, but not many conversations came to fruition. "too far" "2 M" (no thanks) or "I'm on my period" etc.

So I stopped by Classic on Sunday. They told me that floor 5 was closed (really? So I went to floor 2. A few of the mamasans tried to get me to take their girls. They were a bit pushy. I said I wanted slim and then they'the bring over a 55 kg girl, big-boned for an Asian and rounded. My aspirations are more in the range of 40 kg. So I started walking the circuit. There were about 50 girls total at 7 PM. They weren't especially attractive. I didn't feel like hopping around, so I choose the smallest I could find (about 50 kg), paid my 365 k and went to a room. She started off with an ok BBBJ for a minute or two, then wanted to get down to business. She had a positive attitude but wasn't exactly turning me on. She insisted on a condom. It seemed like the phone rang after only about 30 minutes and she said "sorry, time's up". Overall, it was disappointing. Low quality selection (but maybe I was just not there at the right time / day. Just before Ramadan) and mediocre service. It's also unpleasantly loud in there. I gave her a 100 k tip anyway, paid 28 k for my one water and left. Nobody else asked for a tip. It was fun to finally see the place, but maybe it's not for me.

The next night I checked out KI. I hadn't research enough to know which individual shops were the best, so I picked New Sari Ayu at random. It seemed much less organized here. All the girls were bunched in one dark corner, maybe 40 of them, and it was hard to check them out. I told the mamasan I wanted very thin and she immediately pointed out a 19 YO. She had some height on her and almost looked like a lady boy. But, yes, she was thin, so I accepted and paid my 400 k. She had a great attitude and was willing to play without a bag for a tip (unspecified). I gave her 300 k at the end (following recommendations here) and she seemed happy with that. It seemed like a great deal, overall, for a hot 19 yo. Like Classic, it wasn't especially romantic like I might hope for with a talented freelancer in the room – just down to business. But that's more-or-less what I was expecting from this kind of place and price point. I liked that they didn't pressure me to buy me or her a drink.

My question for the experts: What higher-price-point place would you recommend that would also provide like a nuru massage / body slide before the action? I did get some of that at Orchardz Industri, but they also wanted me to pay like 800 k and wouldn't let me choose the girl.

[Mighty Spearsman]

Hello.

I got lucky because I left Jakarta (but was planning to come back). I got in touch with a girl from the train track.

She told me there was a police raid. Load of people arrested.

Apparently arrested people risk 15 years in prison. Probably this is for the pimp. Girls would suffer a different fate.

That's bad. I wonder what would happen to us, customers, if we get caught? I really don't want to go to prison 😭

Sorry but this report is too vague.

Exactly where was this police raid? At the train tracks? Or nearby? And who was arrested. Working girls? The pimps? Male Indonesian customers? Foreigners? Were they arresting people for sexual activity, drugs, or something else?

Assuming no drugs are involved, the police are unlikely to arrest any foreigner (too much work); if they threaten it (assuming they even speak English), a small cash "donation" can help smooth things.

[RipVanTinkle]

No worries mate.

I've done this recently both in Jakarta and Bali, no issues with hotel, anywhere between 4-5 star ones.

In Bali resort they even ask if I have a friend during check in, since this is inclusive one (with bfast and club access) I had to say yes, and they ask for my lady friend's ID, no issue.

Also I wouldn't worry if you go to big spa, karaoke etc either. The police get's their cut from establishment.

For what's it worth, the new law basically will be enforced if your lady friend's husbands, BF, relatives etc report your involvement to the police; maybe good idea to date single women only.

Many thanks for the feedback from all of you. I decided to play it safe and get in some hours of private time in the room during the evenings. Instead of overnight stays.

I stayed at Wyndham Casablanca, which really is quite easy. Lots of guests and foreigners for them to not care about anybody. They don't even need key cards in the elevators.

[HelloYou]

Hello.

I got lucky because I left Jakarta (but was planning to come back). I got in touch with a girl from the train track.

She told me there was a police raid. Load of people arrested.

Apparently arrested people risk 15 years in prison. Probably this is for the pimp. Girls would suffer a different fate.

That's bad. I wonder what would happen to us, customers, if we get caught? I really don't want to go to prison 😭