Jakarta

[Christian G]

I am not 100% sure about this, but this is my impression:

1) Yes. But I am not sure whether it is day 3 or 4 you can fly onwards to Jakarta.

You need to take a pcr test on day 3 and waiting for result, so you can flight out day 4.

"If the second test is negative, you can check out the next day and then go to other hotels or other islands".

https://bali.com/news/corona-updates...ulations-bali/

[Goferring]

Yup!,too true. Unfortunately all those nice policemen have families in the provinces too. You should consider it an environment of elevated risk and reward.

It has been some time since we heard any stories of actual bonking here, I just can't get excited about this state of endless visa hypotheticals. Has anybody got any adventures to tell?. What about you all tell us about your biggest punting fails. Get things moving again.

OS.

Again, your correct. Don't ask how I know its not a good look to be driving back from a disco at 4 am with a GF and a slew of her buddies in the car, 1/2 oz of clothing between all of them, and straight into a road block. Even I thought we looked guilty. In a fit of Imperial Superiority I was refusing to pay anything, the girls screaming at the cops 'Don't call me a hooker!' The 70 k 'fine' for not handing over my passport was cheap entertainment.

Punting fails? What do you mean?? In 30 years nothing has ever gone wrong. LOL.

Perhaps you are thinking of staggering home, girl in tow, forgetting my hotel's name and taxi-ing around Bandung for a couple of hours trying to find which Room 37 was mine.

Or having a girl disappear into the bathroom, injest some magical pixy dust and start running laps around the room, bouncing from desk to drawer to bed to chair, lap after lap. I had to crash tackle her just to get her to stop. While fucking her, she would not shut up, yapping away about God knows what. The night was so bad that it was laughable. I bumped into her a second time years later. She was obviously totally wired again: eyes the size of dinner plates and stabbing her nasi goreng with a vengeance that Ted Bundy would be proud of. I was with business associates so I prayed that she didn't recognise me before I bid a hasty retreat.

Enjoy. G.

[Offshore Swell]

You're correct that Ramadan generally and Idul Fitri can be very lean times. Especially for those without existing contacts. However, the couple of weeks before the exodus can be very good as part timers are keen to make some money to fund the trip and the gifts that are expected of a well to do city girl when she arrives back in the province.

Yup!,too true. Unfortunately all those nice policemen have families in the provinces too. You should consider it an environment of elevated risk and reward.

It has been some time since we heard any stories of actual bonking here, I just can't get excited about this state of endless visa hypotheticals. Has anybody got any adventures to tell?. What about you all tell us about your biggest punting fails. Get things moving again.

OS.

[Cucumber]

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1) I can bypass a B211 A visa for Indonesia by landing in Bali, follow test and quarantine procedures there, and fly to Jakarta from Bali on day 3?
2) If this is allowed, is quarantine still required in Jakarta?

I am not 100% sure about this, but this is my impression:

1) Yes. But I am not sure whether it is day 3 or 4 you can fly onwards to Jakarta.

2) No I don't think you need to quarantine in Jakarta if you come via Bali.

[BenderOver]

You're correct that Ramadan generally and Idul Fitri can be very lean times. Especially for those without existing contacts. However, the couple of weeks before the exodus can be very good as part timers are keen to make some money to fund the trip and the gifts that are expected of a well to do city girl when she arrives back in the province.

Thanks Goferring. I'm still a touch confused though. I thought Ramandan was the 30 days of fasting, and Idul Fitri was the end of the fasting period, thus the 31st day. What I saw was people fasting for 30 days, then disappear for 10 days at their village. Which two weeks are you referring to that the girls are hard up for cash to bring back to desa? I completely agree with you and believe that circumstance exists. But I'm just terrible at understanding when the best hunting time is!

Ramadan starts April 2 and ends May 2 this year. Idul Fitri is from May 2 to May 3. Celebrating at hometown village would typically run from May 2 to May 12 depending on how generous your boss is or how long the office will be closed.

BTW, if anyone's curious, Idul Fitri is the bahasa way of saying Eid al-Fitr which is the arabian way of saying the same thing.

[BenderOver]

From Cucumber's thread, am I interpreting this right? I can fly directly to Jakarta if I am from one of the 23 approved countries and have a negative PCR test 48 hours before departure. If I have 3 shots, there is no COVID testing at all upon arrival to Jakarta only a 24 hour quarantine.

If so, why would anyone fly directly to Bali, Bintan, and Batam, be unable to leave for 4 days, and risk being quarantined after a mandatory PCR test on day 3?

Am I correct to assume there is no Visa paperwork to do before I arrive. Just land and get my passport stamped?

Whether that's your interpretation from Cucumber or not, it's rather irrelevant. The rule itself, which is more important, is that for VOA to kick in, you must arrive into Bali, Bintan, or Batam from one of the 23 approved countries, and follow the testing and quarantine procedures listed.

Arriving straight into Jakarta, you'll still need to pre-apply for a B211 A visa, do the tests and one day quarantine.

The Indo government is just so out of touch on how to simplify their own laws, I've given up being frustrated about it. There are a couple of questions that are still pertinent, asides from the elephant in the room "Why the hell are the testing and quarantine requirements so confusing and unnecessary?

So here are my questions:

1) I can bypass a B211 A visa for Indonesia by landing in Bali, follow test and quarantine procedures there, and fly to Jakarta from Bali on day 3?

2) If this is allowed, is quarantine still required in Jakarta?

My questions are probably moot by the time anyone reads it, as the government regulations will likely change again by then. Everyone's complaining why not reopen VOA everywhere and drop the bullshit quarantine requirements.

[Ottotot]

This time, I explore to the sawah besar area and visit this place called zaigon. The place is not as big as classic or malioboro but its pretty nice. The inside is practically like a lounge but in smaller scales. The ladies is not there so the GRO usually show the pictures through tablet. Once you decide, they will ask wether you want to use facilities first. So, I just relaxed at the whirpool and the sauna first. Once finished, they bring me to the room upstairs. The girl that I picked is the same with the pictures, which have the complexity of the Indonesian girl. She told me to strip down and she did the same thing too. Then, I lay down and give me a good message. After that, she told me to flip and still continued to massaged me while give me kiss or two. Her body is pretty banging and she has a gun tattoo on her upper tight and a hellokitty on top of her butt. Then, she did a body massage which is ok, then we took a shower. After shower, the real shows begin and since I'm not that good with words, all can I say its pretty darn good. My high sc shhool friend works there and she kinda hook me up with this girl so that's why I'm pretty happy. Total cost with tips is like Rp. 850.000 which is not bad at all. Till the next journey then.

[Christian G]

From Cucumber's thread, am I interpreting this right? I can fly directly to Jakarta if I am from one of the 23 approved countries and have a negative PCR test 48 hours before departure. If I have 3 shots, there is no COVID testing at all upon arrival to Jakarta only a 24 hour quarantine.

If so, why would anyone fly directly to Bali, Bintan, and Batam, be unable to leave for 4 days, and risk being quarantined after a mandatory PCR test on day 3?

Am I correct to assume there is no Visa paperwork to do before I arrive. Just land and get my passport stamped?

https://bali.com/news/corona-updates...ulations-bali/

https://www.letsmoveindonesia.com/vi...irect-to-bali/

No, you can fly only on Bali for VoA. There is a pcr test on arrival, then a pcr on day 3.

[Banana Boi]

Foreign travelers must show a negative RT-PCR test result in the country or region of origin which samples were taken within a maximum period of 2 x 24 hours before the departure time.

All international travelers (Indonesian citizen and Foreign citizen) are required to quarantine with the following categories:

​Quarantine period 1 x 24 hours for those who have received second and third dose of vaccination.
Quarantine period 7 x 24 hours for those who have received the first dose of vaccination.

Foreign travelers who enter Indonesia through Batam, Bintan and Bali are required to carry out RT-PCR on the third day after arrival. With a negative result, foreign travelers could continue the activities while still implementing strict health protocols.

Foreign travelers who enter Indonesia through Batam, Bintan and Bali could leave for other destinations, with the following requirements:

A negative RT-PCR test result;
For foreign travelers who enter travel to Bali should be staying within minimum period of four days;
Comply with health protocols and requirements for foreign travelers in the destination country/region

From Cucumber's thread, am I interpreting this right? I can fly directly to Jakarta if I am from one of the 23 approved countries and have a negative PCR test 48 hours before departure. If I have 3 shots, there is no COVID testing at all upon arrival to Jakarta only a 24 hour quarantine.

If so, why would anyone fly directly to Bali, Bintan, and Batam, be unable to leave for 4 days, and risk being quarantined after a mandatory PCR test on day 3?

Am I correct to assume there is no Visa paperwork to do before I arrive. Just land and get my passport stamped?

[Cucumber]

Here are a couple of links I found useful. Quarantine in Jakarta is now only 24 hours for fully vaccinated people. I heard from friends that the process upon arrival at the airport in Jakarta can take a few hours and is cumbersome.

https://www.imigrasi.go.id/en/2022/0...ari-23-negara/

https://kemlu.go.id/losangeles/en/ne...l-restrictions

[Hilo77]

Thanks Hilo. That's an excellent point. I forgot about Ramadan. This might be stupid question, but is it hard to monger and set up dates during holy season? Are restaurants and bars still open? Or are they closed / no drinking.

As others have said, it's Indonesia so nothing is impossible. Girls will be looking to make money in the first few weeks of Ramadan to buy nice clothes and gifts for going back to their hometown. If you go to your favourite bar you'll find it's turned into a restaurant, all the booze has been taken off the shelves and the beer taps covered up, the waitresses will be wearing modest clothing and serving you drinks in tea cups. A favourite masseuse informed me that the spa would be closing for the month, so if I needed her she would be operating out of a hotel room and just give her a call. So, it's doable, if you have a list of contacts and you know where to look, but why bother? Just go somewhere else for the month. And of course during the (now almost week-long) Idul Fitri holiday at the end of the month Jakarta becomes a virtual ghost town with absolutely nothing available, you really don't want to be there then unless you enjoy empty streets and deserted shopping malls.

[Goferring]

I just saw it on Indonesia's Immigration website. I don't mind the requirement to stay 4 consecutive days in Bali. But can anyone else confirm if it will be possible to fly to Jakarta (after those 4 days) for my monger fill then fly home from there?

After the 4 days, assuming a negative second PCR test, you are free to check out of your hotel and travel anywhere in Indonesia.

https://bali.com/news/corona-updates...ulations-bali/

[Goferring]

During the one to two weeks after ramadan ends is the Eid celebration. Most of the working class of Indonesia return to their hometowns to celebrate with their family. How's the selection during this time? Is it slim pickings because the girls return home too?

You're correct that Ramadan generally and Idul Fitri can be very lean times. Especially for those without existing contacts. However, the couple of weeks before the exodus can be very good as part timers are keen to make some money to fund the trip and the gifts that are expected of a well to do city girl when she arrives back in the province.

[BenderOver]

I am not sure how the combination of Ramadan and constantly changing covid regulations will affect exactly what is open, but generally Ramadan is _not_ considered a good time to monger in Indonesia. In addition to some or many things being closed, many girls will go back to their villages for celebrations. There are stories from recent years here on the forum about people who went during Ramadan and didn't have a very good time. Search for "Ramadan" on the forum and you will find info.

During the one to two weeks after ramadan ends is the Eid celebration. Most of the working class of Indonesia return to their hometowns to celebrate with their family. How's the selection during this time? Is it slim pickings because the girls return home too?

[WeKilledKenny]

I just saw it on Indonesia's Immigration website. I don't mind the requirement to stay 4 consecutive days in Bali. But can anyone else confirm if it will be possible to fly to Jakarta (after those 4 days) for my monger fill then fly home from there?