Jakarta

[Brandon88]

I am sad to learn that my client in JKT has decided to switch vendors. I fear I have made my last trip (on someone else's dime, at any rate). Those 300k+ miles on SQ may now come in handy.

Has anyone stayed at the Hotel Ibis Mangga Dua? They appear to have very cheap rates, but likely a sh*thole?

[Mojohojo]

I am a MALAYsian but had made numerous trips to JKT for the wonderful golf courses you guys have. Had a few escapades with the lovely caddies but nothin to shout about. Basically, it will cost you around 500-800k for an all nighter and they'd probably want to hang around the next day (for free food and some light shopping). I'd say value for money but since we play golf everyday, how many times can you go, right.

The Mall hunting sounds very interesting and had RTFF on Atrium and will be staying at OAsis Amir next week. Any advice for us newbies? much appreciated..

We'd usually go to Stadium for our quick fix since it is relatively cheap and convenient. Had a mommy named EMA on the disco floor who can be coaxed to coming back after she finishes work for FOC. Be ready to open the door at 4.30 am though. The girls are less memorable (name wise that is) but mostly ok.

Last week tried Klassik Spa at hotel Classic and found the selections are quite extrordinary. The package starts at Rp550 (Massage, BM and ML) and 750 for the freelancers (Sinetron type girls also available, to my eyes, that is). Had a 38DD package named IN IN which gave one hell of BM with her soft DDs. very accomodating and allowed seconds if you can (extra Rp50k).

Any other similar joint that i can sample? will try to provide FR once done.

JKT rules

MJHJ

All the discussion about whether such and such price is a rip-off or not only reinforces my conclusion that there are many similar options available in Jakarta at very different prices. So much depends on opportunity, place, time, context and luck. That's why this forum is so popular!

A beautiful stunner you pick up at BATS can be a total dud fuck and charge you a fortune. While an average looking ayam kampung picked up at Atrium and fucked in your apartment could be a sex toy you wet dream about for the rest of your life. And the cost is hardly more than small change.

But some mongers want the comfort and experience of a KTV and could be bothered with the hassle and uncertain outcome of the mall scene. And if you don't have much time on your hands and you have to accompany your client, your options are limited.

As a long term resident in Jakarta, it's great to have the luxury to explore the scene as a hobby. Personally I avoid the KTV/ Five Star disco/ hotel scene because for me it's not so interesting, is too bule-dominated, and produces mediocre results for high price. In my opinion the best options are available in Kota and sometimes in Blok M. And I'm getting into the ayam in the mall scene a bit more. And building up a "database" of hp numbers.... But it's taken time to learn the lessons from my mistakes.

But my main "problem" is that I don't have enough time time and semen left after fucking the girlies I fuck "for free" after making connections on websites and chat sites. But as per previous discussions, "freebies" are rarely actually free.

It all just goes to show that Jakarta is a wonderland. It's a fairy realm of available women who just want to fuck, sometimes for money, sometimes for the status and excitement of fucking a bule with dinner/disco on the side, sometimes just because they're horny fuck-bunnies.

If only there were a few dance-in-the-nude Bangkok girlie bars and the odd BJ bar, the place would be absolute fucking perfection.....

[Chuckie7611]

This message is for Mangga. I am heading to Jakarta soon and would appreciate some advice on mongering there. Even better if can forward me some of the contact numbers of some girls there. Looking for indonesian (local or chinese, great boobs and definitely do anal). Dont mind paying more

Thanks

[Mangga]

All the discussion about whether such and such price is a rip-off or not only reinforces my conclusion that there are many similar options available in Jakarta at very different prices. So much depends on opportunity, place, time, context and luck. That's why this forum is so popular!

A beautiful stunner you pick up at BATS can be a total dud fuck and charge you a fortune. While an average looking ayam kampung picked up at Atrium and fucked in your apartment could be a sex toy you wet dream about for the rest of your life. And the cost is hardly more than small change.

But some mongers want the comfort and experience of a KTV and could be bothered with the hassle and uncertain outcome of the mall scene. And if you don't have much time on your hands and you have to accompany your client, your options are limited.

As a long term resident in Jakarta, it's great to have the luxury to explore the scene as a hobby. Personally I avoid the KTV/ Five Star disco/ hotel scene because for me it's not so interesting, is too bule-dominated, and produces mediocre results for high price. In my opinion the best options are available in Kota and sometimes in Blok M. And I'm getting into the ayam in the mall scene a bit more. And building up a "database" of hp numbers.... But it's taken time to learn the lessons from my mistakes.

But my main "problem" is that I don't have enough time time and semen left after fucking the girlies I fuck "for free" after making connections on websites and chat sites. But as per previous discussions, "freebies" are rarely actually free.

It all just goes to show that Jakarta is a wonderland. It's a fairy realm of available women who just want to fuck, sometimes for money, sometimes for the status and excitement of fucking a bule with dinner/disco on the side, sometimes just because they're horny fuck-bunnies.

If only there were a few dance-in-the-nude Bangkok girlie bars and the odd BJ bar, the place would be absolute fucking perfection.....

[Neuromancer]

Finally RTFF (a little bored tonight). Have to say that the search function is really very effective. In that you don't get a bunch of non-related topics (maybe picked up some tips from google? ). Not much info on Nikko hotel, but plenty on PI and on KTVs in general.

Regarding KTVs, is it required to know the mommie in advance? More accustomed to HK, Taiwan, China. And knowing the mommie is usually good advice. Ie. Would it be safe to just walk into one of the KTVs mentioned and have a mommie assigned to you at random? I've generally stuck to KTVs which I already knew the mommie or a trusted friend knew one.

Looking forward to my next trip to Jakarta, though not sure when that will be.

[Menteng]

Only once have I gone with a mamasan to view her girls and in fact I went with a regular contributor to the forum. We certainly didn't get into any kind of trouble; just a taxi ride to a goldfish bowl with around 20 girls. Neither of us took one but they ranged from average to pretty good: nothing dreadful and the price I recall was fairly reasonable, maybe around 400k though fellow contributor may have a more accurate recollection?

"Fellow contributor" can confirm what you've written. The mamasan's name was Vany (Fanny ) Actually there are more fishbowls in that street. Only for take-aways!

[Neuromancer]

If you read closely I did provide some reference price points, for example your friends tip (750K) would have gotten 1-2 at Bats, etc. for ST (or LT if late).

I don't see having to 'repeat in detail' what has been laid out clearly by some many others that have posted here in the past.

And since you are not a real newbie, and admitted not RTFF, not even sure why you would tell us how you got ripped off. Where you intentionally setting up yourself as an example of what NOT to do or what?

To be truthful, the major reason I even responded was directed at Jackson's suggestion of putting as RoD. As someone just pointed out, J as usual is the wise one - he wanted it posted as an example of what not to do.

RLMAO

PS - I forgot to mention that before I posted originally, tried to send you PM but couldn't get through. So I guess you're willing to pay big tip but not 19.99 for membership to ISG?

Actually, I only feel like I've been ripped off for the special massage. 50 bucks is a little bit high. I actually thought that the KTV was decent value. Even if I had paid the 750k for the takeout (which I didn't), I wouldn't have felt ripped off. So why the hell did I post in the first place? Well, I guess that I just felt like it. It was a new experience for me, there's no use to RTFF after the fact right and well, part of why I like posting is to spark discussion.

I realize that most mongerers don't like KTV cause they feel like it's poor value for the money, but count me in the minority I suppose. And in other parts of Asia, KTV can run much higher than USD180 per person (without takeout). I realize that Indonesia ought to have lower prices. And if I go back, then I will take this into account. The fact that we got TWO bottles of Johnny Gold in that price made everything seem pretty reasonable.

In the end, I was basically just following my buddies and since they're local figured it would be ok. Obviously, you think I got ripped off, but except for the special massage, I would have to disagree.

Look, I could say that any idiot who heads out to Wan Chai (I'm based in HK) and pays 1000-1500 HKD for a filipino or indo for LT is a dumbass and he's just throwing away his money. Especially when you can get 141 for about 400HKD ST, if you want two pops, then just go back after you wake up for another one at a total price of 800HKD. But some folks just prefer a certain game, and don't I necessarily want to begrudge them that game. I felt like 180USD for KTV with no takeout is a fair price. I enjoyed my time there. Got to drink lots of booze. And got to hang with a buddy.

Not familiar with BATS. And if you think about it, KTV takeout is typically LT, so 750k for KTV (LT) takeout is about the same as two BATS ST takeouts, right?

Anyway, glad to have my first ROD. Do you go around authorizing every damn request for ROD? I wasn't even the one who asked for it! Although not having been around ISG for very long, I see quite alot of reports with the "request for ROD" tacked onto the bottom. Most of which aren't terrible distinctive. I guess there must've been something about mine that must've hit a nerve?

PS.-- have absolutely no problem with paying the 19. 99 or whatever the membership price is, though I refuse to be goaded into doing so. Ie. Lets say I countered with 400k to the special massage girl and she said something along the lines of "cheap bastard". I would've not only refused, there's a good chance I would've hopped up and slapped her across the face. I will sign up for a paying membership when I damn well feel like it. If you look closely at my membership details, I've only had this account for something like a couple of weeks. I actually tried registering about a month or two earlier I think, but had some problems getting the registration authorized (don't ask me why, have no idea). Sort of curious, did you sign up for a paying membership as soon as you discovered the board? If not, how long did you hang around the board before ante-ing up?

Anyway, I've been hanging around ISG for about 1-2 months (so I suppose you could say I've been freeloading for all this time). But the whole point of registering for the free account was so I could post stuff. And hopefully add value if not cash support. Now I guess my initial Jakarta post was no value added for you, but now that's it's a ROD, I guess that I've added some value right?

[Traveler1234]

First of all, regarding RoD - I also believe that it must be automatically generated. I definitely didn't request it and really don't see why it deserves that status myself.

Anyway traveller, thanks for responding without answering any of the questions (not that you're obligated to by the way, but then what was the point of the response?). I didn't RTFF in the first place cause I hadn't planned on any p4p this trip (as I mentioned in the original post). Not a newbie to mongering, just a newbie to Jakarta and if I had planned on p4p in the first place, would've RTFF.

If you read closely I did provide some reference price points, for example your friends tip (750K) would have gotten 1-2 at Bats, etc. for ST (or LT if late)....

I don't see having to 'repeat in detail' what has been laid out clearly by some many others that have posted here in the past.

And since you are not a real newbie, and admitted not RTFF, not even sure why you would tell us how you got ripped off. Where you intentionally setting up yourself as an example of what NOT to do or what?

To be truthful, the major reason I even responded was directed at jackson's suggestion of putting as RoD. As someone just pointed out, J as usual is the wise one - he wanted it posted as an example of what not to do....


RLMAO

PS - forgot to mention that before I posted originally, tried to send you PM but couldn't get through. So I guess you're willing to pay big tip but not 19.99 for membership to ISG????

[Diver69]

Judging from your pictures, you failed miserably on your intentions. I need to check out industri. If they keep ass lube by the bed as standard protocol, that must be a good place.

I did fail miserably, but such is life.

The lotion was actually for the massage, and she improvised for use in the anal action. Reading other posts, it seems she is quite experienced in the improvisation....Great one, I must say.

[Knight 1001]

Again, you must be quite a lazy one or do not know how to use the search

RTFF !!!

But, you'll need to be sober for that though ...

Anyone has info onthis one?

I went there with a suppliers the other day. Only know we are in Kota but no idea of prices and exact location because was pretty drunk by then

However, it was a 4-5 storeys of real girly place I can tell you.

We went on the 4th floor which is Karaoke with rooms and bedrooms within rooms you know what I mean.

Mamasan grought in the first line up of 15 girls and then second and then third and then china. Wow.

More info please I don't know how to get back there and even how the charges works? Cheers.

[Barson]

Anyone has info onthis one?

I went there with a suppliers the other day. Only know we are in Kota but no idea of prices and exact location because was pretty drunk by then

However, it was a 4-5 storeys of real girly place I can tell you.

We went on the 4th floor which is Karaoke with rooms and bedrooms within rooms you know what I mean.

Mamasan grought in the first line up of 15 girls and then second and then third and then china. Wow.

More info please I don't know how to get back there and even how the charges works? Cheers.

[Jakboy]

A place that i have recently (last few months) started using doesnt find a mention to often here. This is in Mayestik, near Blok M.

Thanks to restrictions of home, I find it tough to slip out in the evenings/weekend, I find the trudge to Panjay (perhaps the best VFM) quite far, TC and enhanced mongering have to be restricted to when the family is out of town and finally - I am a little wary of using the 6th floor - the entrance to Hotel Melawai is on the main road, and its pretty apparent if someone sees you walking in and out of the place.

Hence - valuing discretion, and convenience (lunchtime from work) over price I have started heading to a couple of Massage parlours in Mayestik, this is just a short cab ride from Blok M. Its a busy textile market area which is good, I usually wander into a place called Sentral.

You go into the front desk and they ask you what kind of girl you want - you then have the option of a) asking for a massage and negotiating a fuck with the girl itself or b) asking for a "pake" - which is all in.

The room itself is I guess standard for the MP's - low level bed, a oval bathtub etc.

Girl comes in - usually quite pretty and in line with the photo. generally speaking it helps to describe what you want to the front desk (the lady there reminds me somehow of a faded 30's star of the silver screen gone to seed over the years).

Ive used Monna a few times - tall (5'8" I would guess), quite pretty and not skinny, buxom being the word. sexy without being fat. Her service is fantastic- she has a technique of squeezing and pumping her pussy when you are in, which is usually fatal to my intentions of lasting long. She then proceeds to massage me - which is very good, this is a skilled massage (almost painful ina Javanese way) rather than just a perfunctory press of arms and legs.

Would recommend her. I have used one of two others - where loosk were good, sex guide but overall performance average. I guess that will vary depending on the vibe you set up with the girl too.

The damage - all in is 415rps, I usually leave a 50k tip. SO its a bit more pricey than the 6th floor. But then again, for location (close to work but out of the way), convenience, and quality I think it works more than decently for a mid day option in this side of town.

Cheers

[Nero X]

First, with all due respect to Jackson, this certainly doesn't deserve ROD rating. If anything, it shows what happens when newbie get's taken and doesn't RTFF.

Maybe that is exactly why it got an ROD rating. Ever thought of it that way? RTFF or get taken! hehe

[Bulai69]

"Special massage" in a 5* hotel is ALWAYS expensive. There are postings on this from me and other contributors. As for "going rate", they usually ask 1 juta and rarely settle for less than 450,000 (in my fairly limited experience) so of course it's very bad value for money. The main "value" for me is in the excitement of not being sure whether I will get it or not! Certainly you don't always score.

The mamasans (I have seen) around the outside of PI have been there for years, over 10 years in the case of at one of them. If you are desperate and can't find a girl inside (a much better option) it would be fairly low risk to go with one of them. A safer option of course would be to get her to bring a girl (or 2 or 3) to you to see first; they will often do that. Only once have I gone with a mamasan to view her girls and in fact I went with a regular contributor to the forum. We certainly didn't get into any kind of trouble; just a taxi ride to a goldfish bowl with around 20 girls. Neither of us took one but they ranged from average to pretty good: nothing dreadful and the price I recall was fairly reasonable, maybe around 400k though fellow contributor may have a more accurate recollection? There are also pimps inside PI, usually around closing time and usually on the top floor near the Grand Hyatt entrance. They usually have a photo album so you can see who you are getting (in theory!)

[Neuromancer]

MENTENG: You, sir, are DA MAN! As per MDII's sentiments, if you would also be so kind as to let us in one some more of the women who have had the pleasure of studying under your tutelage, heh heh heh...

NEUROMANCER: [1] Hotel Nikko: The going rate varies, depending on the type of place (hotel, pure MP, combination establishment, etc.), and locale (uptown, downtown, midtown, etc.). However, Rp 500K is considered quite high for a HJ, even at a place like Hotel Nikko. What exactly did your "special massage" consist of?

[2] Zen: Again, price varies as per above. And again, Rp 750K is quite high. Rp 500K for the night would be enough, and in some places that's what you'd tip for two women!

[3] Plaza Indonesia: Truthfully, it'd probably be less of a hassle to try for someone inside PI! Although the "middle man" concept can be helpful or even uncircumventable in some places, it's just an added expense if you're trying to pick up a streetwalker.

Thanks JT.

[1] Nikko - actually went there with a different buddy, one who I'm pretty sure is a non-mongerer (of course I could be wrong). He was staying there and had charged the massage for the both of us to his room - he had actually wanted to go to a different place (can't remember the name but pretty sure it's a no-special sort of place - in the hotel next to Meridien) but they were full and due to time constraints, went to the massage offered in his hotel. The special service was HJ only and fully agree that the price was a little high. Guess I should've figured that extras were available when she ripped my shorts off, but I don't speak Bahasa so didn't know how to broach the subject.

[2] Zen - I guess that I just relied on what my local buddy had guided. I suppose that he was just erring on the high side. In the end, I think that he did so because the girl that I picked... turned out that most of the other friends he takes there usually pick her as well (similar taste I suppose) so he was actually on pretty good terms with her and didn't want to mess that up. Reason I didn't end up taking her out was because of communication problems... my buddy tried to explain what the problem was, but still didn't fully understand, so figured to just skip it. He did give me her number in case I changed my mind, but again, don't speak Bahasa so figure that it wouldn't do me much good.

[3] PI - I suppose that if I am back in Jakarta, will have to try it out (skipping the middle man). Was staying at the Hyatt and reason I was there in the first place was that I was hungry so just wandered out looking for food. Paid 25k rupes for 6 sticks of satay, a bag of peanuts, 1 nasi goreng, 2 sodas and a bag of tahu goreng. At least I got a pretty decent deal on the food right? Don't think that I overpaid... LOL...