Jakarta

[Charm City Dave]

This is a good point. If there is any time that you should consider carrying your passport in Jakarta, it's during Ramadan. Not only do the girls need money to go to their village, the police are the same. There are more police roadblocks and shakedowns than normal.

That is always a tough choice. Carry your passport and risk loss or theft (a major hassle if you are traveling soon or in a city without a consulate or embassy) or carry a copy and risk a shakedown from the police. I had Office Depot (in MDE) make a very official looking color, shrunk and laminated copy of my passport ID page (with signature page on the back side). It looks very official and has got me through two police ID checks so far (one in MDE and one in the PI). I'm pretty sure a paper copy would have lead to an issue. Also suggest making a paper copy of the Visa page to carry as well to prove you are legally in the country. They asked for that in MDE.

[Smoothy]

On the good side, many places only give the impression of closing with girls still inside behind closed doors. The weeks leading up to Idul Fitri girls are desperate for cash to fund gifts when they do go home. Regulars will be very keen for business and new part timers will hit the market.

Beware that it's the same for police and they are out in force giving out "fines" at any opportunity.

This is a good point. If there is any time that you should consider carrying your passport in Jakarta, it's during Ramadan. Not only do the girls need money to go to their village, the police are the same. There are more police roadblocks and shakedowns than normal.

[Goferring]

Thanks for your reply. Sorry, by " end of the month" are you talking about last few days of April or May?

Ramadan is also known as the "Holy Month". Its last day is Idul Fitri. As the muslim calendar is lunar the date changes every year. In 2019 Idul Fitri will be around June 4/5th

Fun fact: every few years there are actually 2 Ramadans and Idul Fitris in one year.

Cheers. G.

[Charm City Dave]

I normally don't go for the best lookers in a bar like CJs. I'm not intimidated by a pretty girl but I have found that there is generally an inverse relationship between looks / desirability and performance. Unfortunately I have had this proven many times.

If Smoothy is also saying these girls also gave a good performance and fun times (I have no reason to disbelieve him) then he found a very nice herd of unicorns and it may be time to reconsider my filters.

Enjoy, G.

I wouldn't reconsider anything. Some guys value having the hottest looking girl over the best performing girl. Nothing wrong with that. But I'm with you, usually the very best looking girls don't provide the best experience. I'd rather have a 7 in looks and a 10 in performance than the reverse. And often the 10s in looks are 3s in performance. Every now and again for a change of pace, I'll take that hottest girl and adjust my performance expectations accordingly. Sometimes you get lucky and get both, but they ARE somewhat rare and almost always new to the business.

[Charm City Dave]

An old friend and self proclaimed expert in all things Jakarta advised me to go to Jakarta last year during Ramadan saying there would be many desperate girls. He couldn't have been more wrong. Many girls do go home to the provinces. Many venues are closed or dead. The whole vibe of the town is depressing. If you have a few regulars and confirm they will be in town, that might provide some fun, but I'd avoid.

I am planning a trip in early may that overlaps with Ramadan (which begins on May 5).

How is the scene during this time? Will some spots close down? Will out of towner girls go back home for the holiday?

Thanks for any info!

Uncle-V.

[Smoothy]

I am planning a trip in early may that overlaps with Ramadan (which begins on May 5).

How is the scene during this time? Will some spots close down? Will out of towner girls go back home for the holiday?

Thanks for any info!

Uncle-V.

Overall, it's not as fun as the rest of the year. The day before Ramadan and the first day of Ramadan, along with the days at the very end of Ramadan just before, during, and after Idul Fitri are basically worthless days for having any fun. Personally, I think the very worst day is one day before Ramadan because absolutely everything will be closed and since it's the first day like that, it's always a bit shocking.

However, there are also some possible advantages in the middle of Ramadan. The best thing about Ramadan is that there are less guys, thus there is less competition. So the girls get a bit desperate and will drop their amount desired for taxi money in places like CJs and BATS. If you have "regulars" from CJs or BATS or other free lancers, you will likely get more texts than normal from those girls wanting to visit you and they will accept less taxi money than normal. That's because they know less guys are in town and don't want to waste their time going to CJs and BATS when there are so few customers. The worst thing about Ramadan is that some days the places for entertainment are closed (as mentioned, at the very start and very end of Ramadan) and the smaller places like kota indah close completely for the entire month. (Bigger places like Hotel Classic and Malioboro will be open most days in the middle of Ramadan.) Some girls do go home to their village for Ramadan, but most don't go home until a few days before Idul Fitri and they return a few days after Idul Ftiri. Jakarta will not be back to normal until a full week after Ramadan.

[Uncle Volodya]

It's the same every year.

On the bad side, some places close and some girls will go home for Idul Fitri (the end of the month).

On the good side, many places only give the impression of closing with girls still inside behind closed doors. The weeks leading up to Idul Fitri girls are desperate for cash to fund gifts when they do go home. Regulars will be very keen for business and new part timers will hit the market.

Beware that it's the same for police and they are out in force giving out "fines" at any opportunity.

Thanks for your reply. Sorry, by " end of the month" are you talking about last few days of April or May?

[Irish Mongrel]

I am planning a trip in early may that overlaps with Ramadan (which begins on May 5).

How is the scene during this time? Will some spots close down? Will out of towner girls go back home for the holiday?

Thanks for any info!

Uncle-V.

On the top end. CJ's will be closed the first couple of days of Ramadan. BATS will be open, but all the lights will be on and light music playing in the background. You will find some girls in there, but not a lot.

[Blacka0]

Yes and always bring your original passport with you not a copy because in Kota if there is a police rasia they will try to scam or bribe you if you don't have your passport with you.

[Goferring]

I am planning a trip in early may that overlaps with Ramadan (which begins on May 5).

How is the scene during this time? Will some spots close down? Will out of towner girls go back home for the holiday?

Thanks for any info!

Uncle-V.

It's the same every year.

On the bad side, some places close and some girls will go home for Idul Fitri (the end of the month).

On the good side, many places only give the impression of closing with girls still inside behind closed doors. The weeks leading up to Idul Fitri girls are desperate for cash to fund gifts when they do go home. Regulars will be very keen for business and new part timers will hit the market.

Beware that it's the same for police and they are out in force giving out "fines" at any opportunity.

[Uncle Volodya]

I am planning a trip in early may that overlaps with Ramadan (which begins on May 5).

How is the scene during this time? Will some spots close down? Will out of towner girls go back home for the holiday?

Thanks for any info!

Uncle-V.

[OldSnake]

Hi all,

This was due but did int find much time about my trip of 5 days in Jakarta.

My usual routine of star moon classic and travel.

Girls 11.

Fails were 2 (dead fishes literally).

3 of them 1 from each location mentioned above were like 7 of 10 scale (All were SYT).

Hotel red planet all 5 days I don't bring many girls in except for one occasion some semi pro.

Mode of transport- Only Go-Jek.

Airport to hotel and back were all GRAB Taxi.

Took massage every day with therapist from Go massage (only massage many wer particular and came with hijab and were very particular that it was only Massage. After my innings in the bordellos I was tired most of the time to think of any thing else, Hence didint push).

Rate of 60 k per 90 min I guess some where there (Quality of the massage was a hit / Miss).

Took some food deliveries through Gojek again during afternoons to avoid the sun.

2 movies in indo mall (Instant family and some other name not sure).

Vitamins pinches from kimia pharmacy just for assurance.

My favourite Places of visits are all in my saved list in Maps. (Hope no one finds them other than me all used for Gojek).

Total Budget was below 1500 USD for 5 days all inclusive. That's almost like 75 - 80 k rupees not sure of the exchange to rupees.

My big thanks to Airasia took some offer and tickets cost me just 300 $ or something I guess.

Also thanks to all who have contributed to the forum and have made it look easy for me. I am getting a feeling its getting too Business as usual in Indonesia. I am now looking at other venues for my next trip. Suggestions welcome I am more of a backpacker and Budget traveller.

PM me if you need any specifics.

OS.

[OldSnake]

I really like Smoothy replies and he does help with a sarcastic tone too bad I lost my balance. Would like to meet the local ISGians like him when I am there in Jakarta.

OS.

OS I am with you on the point of not stereotyping an entire race / country because of the actions of a few (well. Not really a few).

But this isn't about understanding people and cultures. This about how the forum works or should work.

The forum has been setup with the intention of sharing intelligence on the hobby we all love. And that has to be a 2 way street. In order to work well. It also revolves around the expectation (which is clearly stated e RTFF) that one will read and learn. No more difficult that using a simple Google search.

The criticism comes when people cruise by asking questions without reading enough. That suggests that they have no respect for other people's time or effort. And once they are done there is usually no follow up report or even a thank you. That irritates folks who spend a lot of time in sharing information here.

If one were to only read Smoothy's posts over a few days you can write an entire fiction story about a trip to Jakarta complete with details like restaurant names discos bars girls with names and prices hotel and the cuisine the bands and city landmarks and their history. His reports are that good!

I have my personal opinion on some of his views but on reporting and helping with information. No sir. He is ahead there.

[KilledSoul]

OS I am with you on the point of not stereotyping an entire race / country because of the actions of a few (well. Not really a few).

But this isn't about understanding people and cultures. This about how the forum works or should work.

The best way to handle such people is either to ignore or just reply "RTFF", I recommend spelling it out as "Read The Fucking Forum" as lots of new internet users may not be aware of the abbreviation.

I absolutely see no point in invoking racial slurs or stereotyping / generalizing 650 million men of a sub-continent speaking 780 languages among them and having more genetic diversity than whole of native western Europe.

P.S: I would like to thank Smoothy for his amazing contribution to the forum though and agree some posters do not respond back with their trip reports and intel they found.

[Blanquiceleste]

All it took is one line of message to answer the person than 2 people responding with replies not asked for.

Type all that you want it won't matter.

We know our history and will take what is needed of this forum from people who are caring and sharing or from those who do not generalize and since we are also part of internet community and that this Indonesian page does not belong to any one person we will ask for information.

May be some one like me will respond to them.

There is no heat its just a sex forum.

Hope I have not crossed any line and just want to put my point across.

OS.

OS I am with you on the point of not stereotyping an entire race / country because of the actions of a few (well. Not really a few).

But this isn't about understanding people and cultures. This about how the forum works or should work.

The forum has been setup with the intention of sharing intelligence on the hobby we all love. And that has to be a 2 way street. In order to work well. It also revolves around the expectation (which is clearly stated e RTFF) that one will read and learn. No more difficult that using a simple Google search.

The criticism comes when people cruise by asking questions without reading enough. That suggests that they have no respect for other people's time or effort. And once they are done there is usually no follow up report or even a thank you. That irritates folks who spend a lot of time in sharing information here.

If one were to only read Smoothy's posts over a few days you can write an entire fiction story about a trip to Jakarta complete with details like restaurant names discos bars girls with names and prices hotel and the cuisine the bands and city landmarks and their history. His reports are that good!

I have my personal opinion on some of his views but on reporting and helping with information. No sir. He is ahead there.