Jakarta

[Banana Boi]

I just discovered that it is projected that in a little over three years time Indonesia will have the fifth largest economy in the world. Greater than Germany, France, the UK and Italy. That should certainly have an impact on our hobby. Perhaps increasing prices exponentially. I suspect post covid punting will be much different from what we have grown accustomed to.

The population of Indonesia is almost the same as the the total of the 4 countries you mentioned. The rich in Indonesia are rich but if you have been to Indonesia you will know it is mainly a ghetto where people live in what I consider poverty. If you are implying costs will increase they may marginally but it's all relative when an 1 hour session with a pretty decent looking girl at Classic or Travel or KI currently costs around $25 USD per hour.

[Turgid]

I just discovered that it is projected that in a little over three years time Indonesia will have the fifth largest economy in the world. Greater than Germany, France, the UK and Italy. That should certainly have an impact on our hobby. Perhaps increasing prices exponentially. I suspect post covid punting will be much different from what we have grown accustomed to.

[Menteng]

Great story, and it brings back so many things that are no longer with us.

AFF, gone.

Bulai69, gone.

Picking up women on the Busway, gone.

Having a nice drink in Chili's, gone.

Menteng, oh wait, he's still around.

Uncle Dorman, gone. But, we are lucky to have a successor.

[Menteng]

Many Indonesian girls believe that deflowering a young boy somehow guarantees good skin. Don't ask me it's just one of the thousands superstitions in the place 😁 . Hence, it would indeed be seen as a perk to have access to these young boys.

G.

We had a maid who, before washing it, took my underpants from the pile of dirty clothes and rubbed her face with it. She believed that doing that with the underpants of a virgin boy, will help to prevent acne.

[Goferring]

...one would almost begin to believe that bonking the boys is regarded as a perk of the job as a nanny in Indonesia.
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Many Indonesian girls believe that deflowering a young boy somehow guarantees good skin. Don't ask me it's just one of the thousands superstitions in the place 😁 . Hence, it would indeed be seen as a perk to have access to these young boys.

G.

[Hilo77]

Shame you didn't have a hot nanny. Several international school kids have been busted pimping out their nanny to school mates. Apparently the parents were surprised at how many friends were coming around to help little Johnny with his assignments.

No I'm not kidding. 😁.

I remember reading some web discussion somewhere in which people described their earliest sexual conquests, it was quite eye-opening to read how many lads in Indonesia were initiated into the carnal world by their nannies, one would almost begin to believe that bonking the boys is regarded as a perk of the job as a nanny in Indonesia.

I believe no less a great swordsman than President Soekarno himself enjoyed the favours of his nanny and so smitten was he that decades later he named Sarinah mall after her.

Damn, I grew up in the wrong archipelago.

[Goferring]

When I was young and lived with my parents and we would have women over for interviews for housekeeper my mom would choose the oldest and ugliest much to the chagrin of my brother and I.

Shame you didn't have a hot nanny. Several international school kids have been busted pimping out their nanny to school mates. Apparently the parents were surprised at how many friends were coming around to help little Johnny with his assignments.

No I'm not kidding. 😁.

[Turgid]

Me. Too many horror stories for me to have anything but the oldest ugliest nenek to be found.

A hot young maid is a recipe for disaster.

G.

When I was young and lived with my parents and we would have women over for interviews for housekeeper my mom would choose the oldest and ugliest much to the chagrin of my brother and I.

[Goferring]

Ah, screwing the maid, come on, who among us hasn't?

Me. Too many horror stories for me to have anything but the oldest ugliest nenek to be found.

A hot young maid is a recipe for disaster.

G.

[Hilo77]

Normally I would not clog up the board with a quote from August 4, 2007 but after reading the recent posts about older women, I thought I'd re-quote what I wrote back then, plus Bulai69's kind reply to me. I'm pretty sure Menteng did not follow up since he was out of the country at that time, however.

Great story, and it brings back so many things that are no longer with us.

AFF, gone.

Bulai69, gone.

Picking up women on the Busway, gone.

Having a nice drink in Chili's, gone.

Menteng, oh wait, he's still around.

[Hilo77]

Hahah. Very true. These are not girls to be trifled with. I know a guy who married a similar lady. Lovely women if you were on her good side. Fearsome if you were not. He got caught in bed with the maid. I'll let you decide how that ended up for him!!

Enjoy. G.

Ah, screwing the maid, come on, who among us hasn't?

What, I am the only one?

[Mighty Spearsman]

You are just so charming I can imagine why that women wanted you as a role model! Likewise I can understand why you backed out - but I think this is a situation where Pak Menteng might be prepared to "help out" - getting her another "role model" would de-risk the situation for you I think.

When is a freebie not worth it?

No, this story is NOT about a woman who weighs over 120 kg. But since there have been several posts recently about finding freebies on AFF, I thought it useful to share this story:

A few weeks ago I was in Kota one weekday on business. Around 4:15 p.m. I walked over to the Transjakarta bus line at Kota to take the bus to Plaza Indonesia.

Walking in front of me to the ticket line and waiting line was an attractive, professionally dressed dark-skinned Indonesian woman in her late 30s, medium build, long black hair, wearing a jacket over a silk shirt buttoned up to her neck, a skirt to just below her knees and work pumps heels (i.e. not the stiletto heels that many hookers wear), but it was obvious that she had great legs and a good figure.

We struck up a conversation while waiting in line, friendly and polite, and I learned that she was a sales manager for a large insurance company, and that she was returning to her office after having met with a client.

Walked onto the bus and sat down towards the front, and to my surprise she sat down next to me and continued to talk, very friendly; she gave me her card and asked me for my cell phone number just before I got off the bus. Five minutes later I received a short sms from her, saying that she enjoyed talking with me and wanted to meet me again for a drink. I replied fine, let me know when you are free. Two days later, she sms'd me again, proposing that we meet at Chili's (Sarinah Plaza) for drinks the following afternoon.

Met up at Chili's at 4 p.m. the next day and, after some small talk about the weather and traffic, she got straight to the point she was married with a nine-year-old son, but that the marriage had collapsed, she and her husband were living together only for the sake of their son, she no longer had sex with her husband, and that she was looking for someone to have fun sex with, namely me. Sounded good to me, and I started to look forward to our first session together.

Then the kicker. After saying lots of nice things about me as a way of explaining why she had picked me for this opportunity, she blurted out I think you're just wonderful. I've already told my nine-year-old son about you and I want you to meet him soon and be a role model for him.

Oops! The last thing I need is to get involved in a potential marriage-wrecking situation, nor do I need or want to be a surrogate father to someone else's kid. Luckily my cell phone beeped a minute later with an sms from a friend, I read it and, pretending that it was from my office, said sorry, I have to get back to my office right away to send a fax to the U.S. before closing time, left money to pay for the drinks and got up and left.

I then sent an sms to her later explaining that I was real busy at work and wouldn't be able to see her anytime soon. She then sent a couple of sms's over the next week saying hello and which I ignored, then I've never heard from her again.

Normally I would not clog up the board with a quote from August 4, 2007 but after reading the recent posts about older women, I thought I'd re-quote what I wrote back then, plus Bulai69's kind reply to me. I'm pretty sure Menteng did not follow up since he was out of the country at that time, however.

[Goferring]

And if she decides she does like you and has already sized you up as the guy who will be paying her kids' private school fees, woe betide anyone who tries to stand in her way, if she is wealthy or well-connected you might find your options suddenly narrowing very rapidly if you want to stay in the country.

Hahah. Very true. These are not girls to be trifled with. I know a guy who married a similar lady. Lovely women if you were on her good side. Fearsome if you were not. He got caught in bed with the maid. I'll let you decide how that ended up for him!!

Enjoy. G.

[Hilo77]

Of course, there are scams a plenty and if it sounds too good to be true then it likely is. But, and it's a big but, any Asian woman over the age of 28 is considered left on the shelf by society and often herself. Doubly so if she is divorced with a kid or two.

It's not a market I partake in but many report adding a couple of decades to the usually 19 yo air head gets a self funded, intelligent and, still very attractive woman. Oh and she WILL find the best ways to say thanks.

Enjoy. G.

You make a very good point, and if you are looking for a decent, long-term or even medium-term relationship such women can be very rewarding. But for the quick one-off, get it done and walk away sort of relationship most of us want (we wouldn't be on this site otherwise) the "sosialita" is not really an option.

First off they have been around the course a few times, you can't bullshit them like you can a 19 yo waitress just up from Sukabumi and getting used to life amid the bright lights and big city. They know the ropes and they've heard our fascinating stories of life overseas a hundred times before. A lot of them will be educated and have lived overseas themselves, indeed many of them will have visited more countries than we will.

Second, where are you going to take them? You can't take them to your hole-and-the-wall joints where you can get them warmed up on Long Island ice teas and listening to the bar band doing their bad cover version of "Honky Tonk Woman" at full volume and expect them to be impressed. You have to go to nice restaurants and visit the sort of things they want to see like art exhibitions or book launches. Shit, if I want to take a woman in her late thirties to places like those I can just bring my missus and save all the hassle. That's another issue, if you're married the chances are that unlike the 19 yo airhead, the sosialita and your wife move in the same circles, sooner or later, and probably sooner you're going to connect.

Third, for all their supposed insouciance about sex, the older or divorced woman is often (as you suggested) deeply insecure, even if she has a successful career. She knows she's getting the last chance at the game, her open-minded and uninhibited attitude to sex and her willingness to sleep around is not a sign of her relaxed, enlightened thinking but very often a mask for her desperation. And if she decides she does like you and has already sized you up as the guy who will be paying her kids' private school fees, woe betide anyone who tries to stand in her way, if she is wealthy or well-connected you might find your options suddenly narrowing very rapidly if you want to stay in the country.

I prefer a blowjob in the back of my car in a mall parking lot from a cute supermarket cashier coming off her shift and willing to earn some pocket money before she goes home or checking into a motel in Cempaka Putih with a twenty-something jilbab-wearing elementary schoolteacher looking to learn what all the fuss is about from some nice foreign guy who won't be naming and shaming her on Facebook the next day. Life's a lot easier when you keep it simple.

[Goferring]

You know what would be funny? If they were for real.

There's dozens of fabulously wealthy, smart, well turned-out, independent, entrepreneurial women living the high life up there in Hong Kong, desperate to have sex with middle-aged, beer-bellied, white Joe Schmoes like us and being hurt and disappointed when we keep giving them the kiss-off. Maybe that's what makes them so desperate and makes us so attractive, we're the only men who have ever rejected their advances, who have ever said no to them, we are their forbidden fruit!

Meanwhile, we shuffle along in our old shabby way, picking up bargirls and sad single moms for a quick screw in some cheap kos-kosan while patting ourselves on the back about how there's no flies on us, no siree, you won't catch us out.

Now that, gentlemen, would be funny.

Of course, there are scams a plenty and if it sounds too good to be true then it likely is. But, and it's a big but, any Asian woman over the age of 28 is considered left on the shelf by society and often herself. Doubly so if she is divorced with a kid or two.

It's not a market I partake in but many report adding a couple of decades to the usually 19 yo air head gets a self funded, intelligent and, still very attractive woman. Oh and she WILL find the best ways to say thanks.

Enjoy. G.