Jakarta

[BJtemp]

I know we go anywhere there are good clubs. But is there any regions of Jakarta where expats congregate for work and for living? I am thinking about buying a small apartment in Jakarta.

[MrChewsomtwat]

Very sad. The Malio club was the third best mongering I've had in Asia. After Geylang, Singapore, pre-2009, and Chang Ping, China, pre-2014.

Can't believe you're comparing Geylang with Malio! Fishbowls full of average looking women who insist on condoms versus being in a bar with great music, naked or almost naked girls who offer BBBJCIM and BBCIM. It's not even close.

Anyway,

I know several Malio girls who liked to hang out at CJ's in their spare time but with that bar currently not operating where are the girls? All on Tinder? Doesn't seem their style hence working in bars instead. Are any of the big spa's open? I want to get back to Jakarta ASAP. Travel / Classic open?

[Turgid]

Even the signs were taken down.

Very sad. The Malio club was the third best mongering I've had in Asia. After Geylang, Singapore, pre-2009, and Chang Ping, China, pre-2014.

[Egy Monger New]

I love this place and was wondering if anyone knew whether it was open yet?

Even the signs were taken down.

[MrChewsomtwat]

Delta is open and has been for a few months, with Covid protocols, at least the one at Harmoni is. Has a big sign out the front, free rapid testing before a massage, the wet massage there is legendary.

Normal massage is open already, like Bersih Sehat, but you'll be hard-pressed getting a handie there.

Karaoke establishments and bars are preparing to reopen, if positive news from the Governors office about the next PSBB review and easing of restrictions, on the 22nd March.

https://voi.id/en/bernas/38657/karao...-ready-to-open

A friend told me Banten (BSD Tangerang) has already opened massage and karaoke. Doesn't surprise me, they had resto's open when Jakarta didn't during the first lockdown.

I imagine some of these places, sitting in dust and dirt and darkness, will be overrun with rats and mosquitos. Some might need a good cleanup. I actually saw one last week, with doors open and looked like a final renovation underway.

Might take a few weeks for the word to get out to the kamungs of Indramayu and Tasikmalaya and the girls returning.

You will soon be able to fuck yourself crazy at all the old usual haunts.

I love this place and was wondering if anyone knew whether it was open yet?

[MasBule]

Delta is open and has been for a few months, with Covid protocols, at least the one at Harmoni is. Has a big sign out the front, free rapid testing before a massage, the wet massage there is legendary.

Normal massage is open already, like Bersih Sehat, but you'll be hard-pressed getting a handie there.

Karaoke establishments and bars are preparing to reopen, if positive news from the Governors office about the next PSBB review and easing of restrictions, on the 22nd March.

https://voi.id/en/bernas/38657/karao...-ready-to-open

A friend told me Banten (BSD Tangerang) has already opened massage and karaoke. Doesn't surprise me, they had resto's open when Jakarta didn't during the first lockdown.

I imagine some of these places, sitting in dust and dirt and darkness, will be overrun with rats and mosquitos. Some might need a good cleanup. I actually saw one last week, with doors open and looked like a final renovation underway.

Might take a few weeks for the word to get out to the kamungs of Indramayu and Tasikmalaya and the girls returning.

You will soon be able to fuck yourself crazy at all the old usual haunts.

Hi guys, I'm a Jakarta newbie, have been searching on Google maps for massage spas but many of them are shut down.

Looking for a massage with happy ending. Can't order outcall because I'm with my gf (she's on her period).

Is my best bet to go to a hotel spa, since they're less likely to be shut down?

Do all hotel spas offer happy ending, or should I target 2-3 star hotels, or 4-5 star hotels?

I am located in the Central Park (Grogol) area, if that helps.

Thanks in advance for any helpful advice.

[Papae Noel]

Yes, been using the full version of Duolingo. It does have enough challenges for me, but still not everything I would like to have, such as grammar drills. Occasionally I will listen to YouTube language videos. But not actually watch the screen, so I can write out in Bahasa each phrase as I hear them. Now considering a Netflix subscription so as to watch movies with bahasa subtitles.

[Cucumber]

Actually you will be well ahead of many others. I learnt both formally through classes and informally through work and girl friends. I waited six months before doing the classes and already knew the basics of grammar and had a smattering of vocab...

I recommend installing the app Duolingo on your phone. If you really want to learn the language and spend 1-2 hours per day on the app, I think you will learn a lot really fast. It is dynamic, fast paced, understands what you haven't learned yet (based on your errors) and tailors the teaching to that, many of the exercises are easy to get through but still teach you something. If you forget to practice, it starts reminding you. It should lay the perfect basis for real conversational practice. They have a free version, but the paid version is a bit better and does not cost that much. I have no connection with Duolingo or financial interest in promoting them, just think it works really well.

[Papae Noel]

Goferring, All well stated. Thanks again.

[Goferring]

My pace of learning is picking up, but as with any idiom, it will be absolutely frustrating when I try to communicate next time I am there in country.

Actually you will be well ahead of many others. I learnt both formally through classes and informally through work and girl friends. I waited six months before doing the classes and already knew the basics of grammar and had a smattering of vocab. For me, the lessons built on this and help me expand topics I could talk about and work with more formal and complex grammatical structures. You may already be aware that BI grammar is very different to English.

At the same time we had people who literally stepped of the plane not speaking a word of BI so their classes were covering the absolute basics and the simplest of vocab. They honestly expected to be fully fluent and conversing after a 2 week intensive course. Of course this was hopelessly optimistic.

At the other end of the scale was a Japanese guy who spoke no English. This meant that for him to eat, travel, sleep, anything he had to use Bahasa. No one would understand him if he got lazy and fell back to his mother tongue like we English speakers could. After two months in country he was reading the news papers and watching the local news in tv.

Enjoy. G.

[Papae Noel]

Goferring, et al, Saya tinggal di Amerika serikat.

Thanks for suggesting kamus hidup (translates to living dictionary).

My pace of learning is picking up, but as with any idiom, it will be absolutely frustrating when I try to communicate next time I am there in country.

[Menteng]

Thanks 3088, I found a good source. Just remembered to use search engine.

One of the most popular abbreviations in Indonesia is Gpp, which stands for Gak Apa- Apa. Gak means no, and apa-apa is another abbreviation of kenapa-kenapa means something happened, so gpp means it's nothing.

Example:

A: I am so sorry I forgot your birthday.

Be: Gpp, don't mind!

Actually, apa-apa in this sense is no abbrev. It just means "something". Gpp=no something=nothing.

Kenapa means "why". If someone uses "gak kenapa-kenapa" it will express (the lack of) a reason. Enggak kenapa2 DIA jatuh= Without a reason, he fell.

[Menteng]

Be careful as some words can change meaning drastically depending on context. Nikah and Kawin can both mean married or fucking around depending on how they are used. After embarrassing myself several times I just use "married" now. 😁.

Have fun. G.

Hence the expressions: kawin surat and kawin urat. ("I" like "e" in "me", "you" like "o" in "do" and "a" like "a" in "marble".

Kawin surat= documented, oficial unision.

Kawin urat= unision by sinews.

[Goferring]

Been studying about a year,

Where are you? The fastest way to learn is to take a kamus hidup away for a few days to a week on the condition that you only speak Indonesian. You will be surprised at how much you learn when it is used 24/7.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

Goferring, if you have more I hope you can post. Been studying about a year, some I can recognize. Hnya is hanya, yg is yang, but what about "gpp" -.

I think I got the first part of this "Aku di sini hnya fwb aja ya. Aja ya = ?

Your question introduces some interesting points:

Bahasa can be very easy to learn, especially in the early stages. But introduce the slang, local dialects etc that is spoken informally everyday and it can be a minefield:

Indonesians love to shorten words especially dropping "s"es. Sudah to udah (already), saja to aja (only) etc. This can get really bad in texts with letters disappearing from the middle of words: Dmana kau? For dimana kamu? Where are you?

You then have the 00's of dialects and informal slang included. Bahasa Gaul is really popular around Jakarta and on TV Sopie's. There is even a Bahasa Banci. The "gak" that you discovered is actually nggak shortened which is Gaul not true Bahasa Indonesia. It's not uncommon for several languages and dialects to be included in the same sentence or conversation: AmongGayPay? (spelt phonetically) is Memang (in BI) Gue (in Gaul) Pikirim (in BI) or Would I think about it? (Literally) or I don't give a shitt (intended meaning).

"Aku di sini hnya fwb aja ya" is "I'm only doing friends with benefits".

Be careful as some words can change meaning drastically depending on context. Nikah and Kawin can both mean married or fucking around depending on how they are used. After embarrassing myself several times I just use "married" now. 😁.

Have fun. G.