Jakarta

[Smoothy]

Now time to think about a substitute where locals gather.

99% of the guys in Hotel Classic and Hotel Travel are locals.

[MutantChicken]

Thampi, you should listen to the others if you are paranoid to go.

Maybe MutantChicken can reveal these other places in Jakarta that are unreported on ISG to go to that are raid safe and comparable to Kota Indah.

I have found the current environment not favorable to reveal these places openly or to newbies / tourists. I remember when ISG was used by expats or adventurous member who would explore and go to new places. Now its filled by lurkers who never bother to contribute anything or members who post a FR saying I went to classic / nana / AC paid xyz (often its overpaying) and she was good detailing how much sex they had and how they fell in love. Those reports have zero value to me, and sure someone will say that they saw value in that, so I say the ones who got value should be revealing these hidden / unknown places. I'm of the mind of keeping local places local, expat places expat, if tourists want to experience the local flavour then go out and explore and look for them. Having a horde of tourists coming to local places that they have read about online and then paying whatever they want as its cheaper than elsewhere and as they have no stake they can just leave, bring unwanted attention and price appreciation along with them.

[Thampi62]

I have also been hearing from several taxi drivers and locals that it is not good to go to Kota Indah at the moment. Some of them even mentioned this on their own initiative, without me even mentioning Kota Indah in the first place. So it's not just hysteria among the expats on this forum. Personally, I wouldn't go.

So sad. Feel like all friends are are not in favour of KI. So better keep a distance. Now time to think about a substitute for KI where locals gather. I enjoy watching the way locals dealing things. Then things will be easier to handle.

Regards.

[Thampi62]

Thampi, you should listen to the others if you are paranoid to go.

Maybe MutantChicken can reveal these other places in Jakarta that are unreported on ISG to go to that are raid safe and comparable to Kota Indah.

My mind set is to give a helping hand to new bees who are genuine.

[Cucumber]

True. But exploring different places is exciting and one can observe different scenarios. But If the risk is high better be careful or avoid. Regards.

I have also been hearing from several taxi drivers and locals that it is not good to go to Kota Indah at the moment. Some of them even mentioned this on their own initiative, without me even mentioning Kota Indah in the first place. So it's not just hysteria among the expats on this forum. Personally, I wouldn't go.

[Banana Boi]

Thampi, you should listen to the others if you are paranoid to go.

Maybe MutantChicken can reveal these other places in Jakarta that are unreported on ISG to go to that are raid safe and comparable to Kota Indah.

[Thampi62]

I agree with smoothy, with the large number (albeit unreported on ISG places) where you can get a FJ similar to kota indah ie 350-500 k, with a little bit of intelligent researching, why would you take the risk (small or large) of being caught up in a raid.

True. But exploring different places is exciting and one can observe different scenarios. But If the risk is high better be careful or avoid.

Regards.

[MutantChicken]

It sounds like you are looking forward to hearing a first hand report of what it's like to be caught in a police raid.

If some anonymous person posted not to go would that really stop you? Enjoy your trip. If you worry too much it will ruin the fun.

I agree with smoothy, with the large number (albeit unreported on ISG places) where you can get a FJ similar to kota indah ie 350-500 k, with a little bit of intelligent researching, why would you take the risk (small or large) of being caught up in a raid.

[Smoothy]

If some anonymous person posted not to go would that really stop you? Enjoy your raid.

It sounds like you are looking forward to hearing a first hand report of what it's like to be caught in a police raid.

[Thampi62]

If some anonymous person posted not to go would that really stop you? Enjoy your trip. If you worry too much it will ruin the fun.

Thanks. Really encouraging for a first timer.

[Banana Boi]

How is the situation of bars in Kotah Indah. Any information from Sariayu after the raid. Anybody visited that location recently.

If some anonymous person posted not to go would that really stop you? Enjoy your trip. If you worry too much it will ruin the fun.

[Smoothy]

Hi friends,

How is the situation of bars in Kotah Indah. Any information from Sariayu after the raid. Anybody visited that location recently. Other wise I will upload afield report in two weeks. LOL.

Regards.

I may go check it out in a few months. There's no need to go there at this time with so many other options.

[Thampi62]

Hi friends,

How is the situation of bars in Kotah Indah. Any information from Sariayu after the raid. Anybody visited that location recently. Other wise I will upload afield report in two weeks. LOL.

Regards.

[Cucumber]

Thank you very much. Now Opera gives me wonders.

Regards.

I find the DotVPN extension works well, also the free version which I use (presumably the paid version is faster).

[Downandup]

ME TOO from the USA. I used a VPN (set to Canada) and it came right up.

I don't use a VPN and not had access since last Thursday.