Jakarta

[Goferring]

There are plenty of Indonesian girls interested in western men who have never been "bonded". You can find them walking around the malls, in offices, etc.

I was continuing the discussion about working girls and used a very wide definition of "bonded" to include the addiction to money, lifestyle etc.

I guess in many ways the same could be said about girls who continuously and repeatedly court whities. For most it's their only access to nice apartments, drivers and impressive IG travel selfies. These could become equally addicting if the girl's family situation was not able to independently provide them.

It's not unusual to see a girl break up with one bule and immediately move on to another. If this happens enough times she will be given the label SKB by local guys: suka kontol bule.

[Smoothy]

I think you will struggle to find a girl who has been on the game for a while who is not bonded in some form. Even those that are not bound by a cash debt become addicted to the easy money and flashy toys. Add in family and peers who become use to looking the other way as nice gifts roll in and it's a habit that is hard to break.

There are plenty of Indonesian girls interested in western men who have never been "bonded". You can find them walking around the malls, in offices, etc.

[Smoothy]

Completely agree. The walk of shame exists only between your ears.

I don't know about that. I was kicked out of an upscale apartment I was staying at because the upper class older Indonesian women complained about me bringing a different girl into their building every night. Admittedly, that was a rare circumstance and I've never had that problem in a hotel in Jakarta.

[Vrsabien]

Was in Jakarta and was flooded with 'Incall' massage offers. Engaged with them all and uniformly told them I cannot share room number and asked them to give me a call from the lobby. Standard reply from every one of those who sent me the offer was a big 'No'. The pictures they send you are of beautiful 20 something girls and all messages come from one 'handler' who will send older flabbier women to unsuspecting clients to their hotel rooms. Its easier for us to walk away from the girl waiting in the lobby once we realize its the wrong girl. Its probably not that easy to turn away a girl from your room. This whole thing is a scam suggest you don't fall for such offers on we chat.

You could always try and give them a room number down the hall, so when they turn up (not at your door) you can suss them out when they go past your door. Just try make sure its an empty room you send them to otherwise have some unhappy wife down the hall having go at husband for ordering a WG to the room!

[Goferring]

I agree that the dancers are not sex slaves. However, the other girls are sex slaves.

I think you will struggle to find a girl who has been on the game for a while who is not bonded in some form. Even those that are not bound by a cash debt become addicted to the easy money and flashy toys. Add in family and peers who become use to looking the other way as nice gifts roll in and it's a habit that is hard to break.

[CoolBilly09]

Was in Jakarta and was flooded with 'Incall' massage offers. Engaged with them all and uniformly told them I cannot share room number and asked them to give me a call from the lobby. Standard reply from every one of those who sent me the offer was a big 'No'. The pictures they send you are of beautiful 20 something girls and all messages come from one 'handler' who will send older flabbier women to unsuspecting clients to their hotel rooms. Its easier for us to walk away from the girl waiting in the lobby once we realize its the wrong girl. Its probably not that easy to turn away a girl from your room. This whole thing is a scam suggest you don't fall for such offers on we chat.

[Koperen Klaas]

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But fear not. As a meek, mild mannered engineer. You are just doing exactly what they all do so just pick up that confident stride and do it. It is only ever the walk of shame if that's what you feel. The difference is the dynamics of power and money in this country mean there's no shame involved.

Hope that helps.

OS.

Completely agree. The walk of shame exists only between your ears.

Regards.

[Smoothy]

Although there are absolutely girls that are bound by high debts, I do want to put some things in perspective and say that it does not mean ALL girls are like that, even in the afore mentioned places.

For example: I have 2 Malio dancers who I regularly bang on their day off. One girl is completely debt free and never had one to begin with. She worked as an SPG in some mall at one point before she was introduced to the scene by a female friend, did a trial evening, decided she liked the easy money and stuck around, she's 20. The other one has been at Malio for 6 years, still has a rocking body at 25, and was debt free for 4 years. She then decided she wanted to buy a Pajero and took a 200 jt cash loan from the company to substitute her savings, obviously binding her. This loan bears 1% interest per month, although not a great deal its far away from loanshark / maffia practices.

I agree that the dancers are not sex slaves. However, the other girls are sex slaves.

[Hihi Ster]

Although there are absolutely girls that are bound by high debts, I do want to put some things in perspective and say that it does not mean ALL girls are like that, even in the afore mentioned places.

For example: I have 2 Malio dancers who I regularly bang on their day off. One girl is completely debt free and never had one to begin with. She worked as an SPG in some mall at one point before she was introduced to the scene by a female friend, did a trial evening, decided she liked the easy money and stuck around, she's 20. The other one has been at Malio for 6 years, still has a rocking body at 25, and was debt free for 4 years. She then decided she wanted to buy a Pajero and took a 200 jt cash loan from the company to substitute her savings, obviously binding her. This loan bears 1% interest per month, although not a great deal its far away from loanshark / maffia practices.

[Ggekko2009]

One of the things about Indonesia is that there is this parallel universe that exists behind closed doors and hotels are the proxy.

That means if threesomes are your thing you can march through the lobby with two ladies of your choice and apart from a sly shit eating grin from the maintenance guy they will not say a word. Indonesians all use hotels as a respite from the rules that they go by the rest of the time and you are welcome to do so as well.

The best way to handle this is to hold your head high like the lothario that you are and look them straight in the eye. OS has taken girls up to his room in all states, from clubbed out vomit in the lift type girls to kampung girls in pyjamas to the sluttiest looking outfits you could think of and then dropped them back to the lobby in the morning. Once you are behind those doors in a hotel in Indonesia you are safe. Except of course for the political party head that they caught with a pile of shabu and a girl which would have been a set up by his enemies. They even dismantled the toilet to get the evidence.

But fear not. As a meek, mild mannered engineer. You are just doing exactly what they all do so just pick up that confident stride and do it. It is only ever the walk of shame if that's what you feel. The difference is the dynamics of power and money in this country mean there's no shame involved.

Hope that helps.

OS.

It reminded me of the one night when a girl that I was with was so drunk that when we reached the hotel and coming out of the taxi, I had to ask the front doorman to carry her to our room. It took two of them to literary carry her and they were more than pleased to help since I tipped them pretty generously.

And also another time, the bellboy delivered room service and two of the girls that I brought back to my room were pretty much already half undressed, and the guy never batted an eye. As always, they know what is going on and usually remain discrete about this kind of stuff.

[JohnGaltin]

I have a 6 hours late night airport layover (midnight to 6:00). Checked with Orchardz Bandara that their last massage order is 22:30. Any other fun and budget friendly places nearby which are open during those hours?

Thanks.

[Vrsabien]

Hi!

I've been to Jakarta twice first in last June and than again in last month so I figured I'd share my experiences after all this time lurking around. Let me start with the bad stuff, two very similar experiences the first in Hotel Travel last year where a girl wiped me with Listerine and then went on licking me at the same places which I obviously found more weird than anything else, this time same thing happened in Hotel Classic, Listerine wipes refusing BBBJ etc the whole thing was ridiculous. A couple days ago I read OS report about these girls circumstances so that put things into perspective. However I'd like to know if others receive similarly bad services at this venues. Is this the standard? I went to other places at this price range like New Saryu in Kota Indah (4 times) not mind blowing but good service each time, no issue with BBBJ, I think the price was 380 k. However my favourite is the small room in Malio just wish I could remember how they call it lounge or resto whatever where the girls cost around 400 k opposed to the 900 k and upwards in the bigger room. I know beauty in the eye of the beholder but I found them just as attractive if not more. I took 6-8 of them over my visits and all of them were great with the couple of them being exceptional. And I was exactly the same guy there as far as attitude and personal hygiene go so I can't really get my head around the need of wiping my nipples with Listerine. I also visited Emporium twice on Pecenongan street that's a bit more expensive. They got girls for 1065000 and 1265000 if I remember correctly, good selection of girls, nice rooms. Recommended place too.

How do you find this Malio small room?

Last I remember, on top floor of one building is the main room with girls of all countries and dancers 3 at a time on a stage on the right when you get in.

In next building on ground floor I think is the club with sofas surrounding dance stage.

I wasn't sure where else to go to find girls?

Was there a massage area I missed, is that the "small" room?

[Janna81]

Hi!

I've been to Jakarta twice first in last June and than again in last month so I figured I'd share my experiences after all this time lurking around. Let me start with the bad stuff, two very similar experiences the first in Hotel Travel last year where a girl wiped me with Listerine and then went on licking me at the same places which I obviously found more weird than anything else, this time same thing happened in Hotel Classic, Listerine wipes refusing BBBJ etc the whole thing was ridiculous. A couple days ago I read OS report about these girls circumstances so that put things into perspective. However I'd like to know if others receive similarly bad services at this venues. Is this the standard? I went to other places at this price range like New Saryu in Kota Indah (4 times) not mind blowing but good service each time, no issue with BBBJ, I think the price was 380 k. However my favourite is the small room in Malio just wish I could remember how they call it lounge or resto whatever where the girls cost around 400 k opposed to the 900 k and upwards in the bigger room. I know beauty in the eye of the beholder but I found them just as attractive if not more. I took 6-8 of them over my visits and all of them were great with the couple of them being exceptional. And I was exactly the same guy there as far as attitude and personal hygiene go so I can't really get my head around the need of wiping my nipples with Listerine. I also visited Emporium twice on Pecenongan street that's a bit more expensive. They got girls for 1065000 and 1265000 if I remember correctly, good selection of girls, nice rooms. Recommended place too.

[Rogozhin30]

Longtime lurker who is trying to contribute a few reports, even if outdated.

Went to Delta Massage in Jakarta several years ago. Very nice location with low lighting that sets the mood. Requested a VIP with hot stone massage. Did not request a specific girl, but given one with great little body and pretty face.

First off, a very high quality massage, legit quality. This place offers real massage with perks. She started off wearing a silk robe, but it at some point came off as the steam / heat built. Slow sensual buildup on the thighs and balls. Standing to attention, with her on her knees between my spread eagle legs. Fantastic slow HJ to a massive explosion.

Very limited English, which did take away from some of the experience, but hard to expect more. Professional about it, not going to be fooled that there is some magical connection. And I believe the walls did not extend fully up, even though it was a fairly large room that otherwise felt pretty private. Still recommend as a good option for excellent massage and relief.

[Offshore Swell]

One of the things about Indonesia is that there is this parallel universe that exists behind closed doors and hotels are the proxy.

That means if threesomes are your thing you can march through the lobby with two ladies of your choice and apart from a sly shit eating grin from the maintenance guy they will not say a word. Indonesians all use hotels as a respite from the rules that they go by the rest of the time and you are welcome to do so as well.

The best way to handle this is to hold your head high like the lothario that you are and look them straight in the eye. OS has taken girls up to his room in all states, from clubbed out vomit in the lift type girls to kampung girls in pyjamas to the sluttiest looking outfits you could think of and then dropped them back to the lobby in the morning. Once you are behind those doors in a hotel in Indonesia you are safe. Except of course for the political party head that they caught with a pile of shabu and a girl which would have been a set up by his enemies. They even dismantled the toilet to get the evidence.

But fear not. As a meek, mild mannered engineer. You are just doing exactly what they all do so just pick up that confident stride and do it. It is only ever the walk of shame if that's what you feel. The difference is the dynamics of power and money in this country mean there's no shame involved.

Hope that helps.

OS.