Jakarta

[WamBam5]

What is the night scene during Ramadan. Are Bars / Clubs / MP's open or completely shut.

TIA.

[WamBam5]

Going to be in Jakarta during Ramadan. What is the scene like. Are Bars, clubs, MP's open during night time or completely shut??

Thanks in advance.

[Smoothy]

This is Ca Ca.

I don't know her. Nice tits, but those huge eyes make her look like an alien. Kind of scary. That photo may be photoshopped.

[Banana Boi]

Are VIP roomscat level 2?

Yes you enter the VIP rooms from Level 2.

[Vrsabien]

Was at classic (will put up review soon), asked for VIP room but handler lady said all rooms same type all standard no VIP rooms.

This was Level 5 classic.

Are VIP roomscat level 2?

[Kodja]

Don't most of the dancers call themselves Cha Cha at some point? LOL.

These girls often change their working names. I truly believe that every dancer I have taken home has used the name Cha Cha at some point. The last dancer I saw was called Jessica when I first met her. She then changed to Jasmine, then to Cha Cha, then to Putry, then to Alexa, then back to Jessica. The girl who currently lives with me told me her name was Cha Cha when I first met her. But the second time I met her, she told me her real name. For some reason, Cha Cha is a very popular fake name.

I know a dancer named Icha who drives a pajero. She used to call herself Cha Cha.

This is Ca Ca.

[Vrsabien]

With election on and various public holidays, are most places going to be open, like Travel, Ckassic, KingX, Emporium?

[Smoothy]

The dancer with the Pajero. Her name isn't Cha Cha by any chance is it?

Don't most of the dancers call themselves Cha Cha at some point? LOL.

These girls often change their working names. I truly believe that every dancer I have taken home has used the name Cha Cha at some point. The last dancer I saw was called Jessica when I first met her. She then changed to Jasmine, then to Cha Cha, then to Putry, then to Alexa, then back to Jessica. The girl who currently lives with me told me her name was Cha Cha when I first met her. But the second time I met her, she told me her real name. For some reason, Cha Cha is a very popular fake name.

I know a dancer named Icha who drives a pajero. She used to call herself Cha Cha.

[Mskofmsk]

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[Kodja]

Although there are absolutely girls that are bound by high debts, I do want to put some things in perspective and say that it does not mean ALL girls are like that, even in the afore mentioned places.

For example: I have 2 Malio dancers who I regularly bang on their day off. One girl is completely debt free and never had one to begin with. She worked as an SPG in some mall at one point before she was introduced to the scene by a female friend, did a trial evening, decided she liked the easy money and stuck around, she's 20. The other one has been at Malio for 6 years, still has a rocking body at 25, and was debt free for 4 years. She then decided she wanted to buy a Pajero and took a 200 jt cash loan from the company to substitute her savings, obviously binding her. This loan bears 1% interest per month, although not a great deal its far away from loanshark / maffia practices.

The dancer with the Pajero. Her name isn't Cha Cha by any chance is it?

[Tommy Suharto]

True. It's also shocking how many of the girls were sold off by people they should have been able to trust: boyfriends, uncles etc. Many times a father's drinking or gambling debts are paid off with a pretty daughter.

Yup, something like that. Find below link. One of the better pieces of journalism on the supply line, how girls end up in Jakarta brothels:

https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/gir...23-13m8o9.html

[Goferring]

The girls who are sex slaves in places like Hotel Classic are helpless victims.

True. It's also shocking how many of the girls were sold off by people they should have been able to trust: boyfriends, uncles etc. Many times a father's drinking or gambling debts are paid off with a pretty daughter.

[Smoothy]

That's their own damn fault.

Exactly. That's why you should only go with the girls who are free lancers at places like BATS and CJs. They control their own destiny and it's their own damn fault. The girls who are sex slaves in places like Hotel Classic are helpless victims.

[Marky1]

I think you will struggle to find a girl who has been on the game for a while who is not bonded in some form. Even those that are not bound by a cash debt become addicted to the easy money and flashy toys. Add in family and peers who become use to looking the other way as nice gifts roll in and it's a habit that is hard to break.

That's their own damn fault.

[Goferring]

There are plenty of Indonesian girls interested in western men who have never been "bonded". You can find them walking around the malls, in offices, etc.

I was continuing the discussion about working girls and used a very wide definition of "bonded" to include the addiction to money, lifestyle etc.

I guess in many ways the same could be said about girls who continuously and repeatedly court whities. For most it's their only access to nice apartments, drivers and impressive IG travel selfies. These could become equally addicting if the girl's family situation was not able to independently provide them.

It's not unusual to see a girl break up with one bule and immediately move on to another. If this happens enough times she will be given the label SKB by local guys: suka kontol bule.