Jakarta

[Captain Solo]

Jakarta is a shithole with not much to do besides popping girls. Bali has more touristy things, but girls selection is lacking.

In Jakarta you have hundreds girls to choose from in the clubs every night. Bali would have a few skanks on Kuta beach at night; a few massage parlors nearby charging as much as $100-150 for FS. Sanur has half dozen brothels each with 2 to 3 very poor-looking women working. Pimps can bring in more available girls, but they are still very poor-looking, tiny and skinny like undernourished kids.

I had a beautiful time with a girl from Java, staying with her at the Hotel Shanti Beach in Sanur, carrying her around on a $5 a day rental motor bike all over the island. She was dark skin, a sweet but shy and timid in bed, a very poor Muslim girl, wearing threadbare clothes. I took her to fancy shops all over Sanur, buying her new clothes, new shoes. Shop keepers were all smiling and she was grateful. Did not have enough time to do much touristy things with her, just trying to fill her most immediate needs, really felt sad for her humble backgrounds and poor circumstances.

Also picked up a young single mother in Sanur near Denpasar, rode around Bali with her on the motor bike, eating, drinking, beaching, had wild passionate BB sex in the hotel. A Muslim, she did not drink alcohol or eat pork, so we had to avoid those places. If you find any attractive girls in public places, don't be shy to try to make friends. Balinese are very friendly and gracious. Traffic around the island, Denpasar, Sanur, Ubud was very heavy with tour buses, vans, taxis, motor bikes right before Covid, ridiculous. Go to Lompoc for a real relaxing vacation with real Indonesians in authentic Indonesia, not only beach salesmen.

Went to a temple near Denpasar on a weekday where hundreds people young and old were dancing in their religious event with dozens trays of flower, food and fruits offerings to their Gods. They welcomed me into the temple to mingle and take pics, very gentle and gracious people. Man, some of those young Balinese girls looked absolutely hot, sexy, attractive, exotic in Balinese festive costumes. Of course girls were glancing discreetly at guys in between staring at the altar mumbling chants hehe. That was a very unique experience, so look for those events.

The dance clubs in Denpasar have some very beautiful half Chinese girls who wanted a lot of money. Those stupid clubs are very dark with ear-splitting sound level and a few girls dancing on stage to tout people to dance, ridiculous and boring.

Vendors and artists on the road along Sanur Beach were offering to take me to meet girls in the neighborhood. Some of those offers were risky, so be careful. You may be set up for a sting or beatup and robbed in the alleys, may be. Be careful.

You should stay for 4 to 5 days in Jakarta or Yogyakarta to search for beautiful girls to go with you for a vacation in Bali or better yet, Lombok. A lot of girls would be happy to go for a week or two, just the matter of how much money you can agree with them. That way you can have the best of both world. Fly into Denpasar, spend a few days in both Bali and Lombok which has much fewer tourists, remains authentic Indonesian and is my preferred vacation spot in Indonesia. Cruise around the islands, hang out on beaches, snorkel, dive, fish, party, temples, volcano, rice, cocoa, coffee farms, silk shops, artists village, fancy restaurants, dance clubs ect. Man, you would have such a beautiful time in a nice, clean, quiet, romantic island with a hot girl by your side. The prospect of such a fun sexy vacation got me all excited, want to pack my back this week and go with beautiful, gentle and sexy girls like Nesya or Medan, spend a whole week with them on the islands.

In Bali or Lombok You can still go out and search for more local girls while your date sleeps late. If you find hotter girls with better deals, just buy your date a $50 airfare on shaky Air Garuda and send her back to Jakarta. She would be happy.

[MarcusBus]

Hello.

So, 400ST.

How much about overnight?

Thanks.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

The girls / mamasan are generally anywhere between Hotel Prinsen Park (at the big gate structure coming from the main road) and the KFC at some kind of underpass.

Time: mostly between 18:00 and 21:00.

Service: BBFS, unless you bring your own condoms; try to bring lubrication to make it more enjoyable for everyone.

Price: 400-450 to the mamasan + about 200 for a hotel room.

If a girl looks suspiciously young just ask for her age or ID, as a previous commenter did. The best way to manage the scene:

Get Whatsapp numbers of the mamasans and they will deliver any girl to your hotel or AirBnB; use Google Translate to talk to anyone. Pay the mamasan in advance at arrival, or she will insist on joining you. Even better: ask the girls for their Whatsapp numbers and meet them directly (for 400) and let them introduce their own friends and girls. Avoids the pesky mamasans and helps the girls.

This strategy works best if you have more than a week to spend. In 2022 I spend a week at Lokasari at Olympic Hotel to have easy access, bring girls to my room (instead of some shithole) and collect numbers. The remaining 2 weeks I got a good AirBnB at Pasar Baru and were meeting the girls directly there (arranged via Whatsapp). Later in 2022 and 2023 my previous girls introduced "friends"cousins"sister" when I was back in Jakarta and asked them to. A steady supply if you want to meet young girls directly at your hotel, for a 400 BBFS session.

Again, exactly the scene I'm looking for. You mentioned previously the girls are online, either IG or other apps, I believe. How do you find them on there? Or do you just have to ask one and she'll give you others?

[JSmithJ88]

The girls / mamasan are generally anywhere between Hotel Prinsen Park (at the big gate structure coming from the main road) and the KFC at some kind of underpass.

Time: mostly between 18:00 and 21:00.

Service: BBFS, unless you bring your own condoms; try to bring lubrication to make it more enjoyable for everyone.

Price: 400-450 to the mamasan + about 200 for a hotel room.

If a girl looks suspiciously young just ask for her age or ID, as a previous commenter did. The best way to manage the scene:

Get Whatsapp numbers of the mamasans and they will deliver any girl to your hotel or AirBnB; use Google Translate to talk to anyone. Pay the mamasan in advance at arrival, or she will insist on joining you. Even better: ask the girls for their Whatsapp numbers and meet them directly (for 400) and let them introduce their own friends and girls. Avoids the pesky mamasans and helps the girls.

This strategy works best if you have more than a week to spend. In 2022 I spend a week at Lokasari at Olympic Hotel to have easy access, bring girls to my room (instead of some shithole) and collect numbers. The remaining 2 weeks I got a good AirBnB at Pasar Baru and were meeting the girls directly there (arranged via Whatsapp). Later in 2022 and 2023 my previous girls introduced "friends"cousins"sister" when I was back in Jakarta and asked them to. A steady supply if you want to meet young girls directly at your hotel, for a 400 BBFS session.

Are you willing to share some photos so we all can get an idea of what these chicks look like?

[FutureGuy]

Lokasari is a sort of mall. The old famous places like this western style disco, are closed since long. Other places there are KTV's. So --where exactly you pick up girls there? On the parking lot?

The girls / mamasan are generally anywhere between Hotel Prinsen Park (at the big gate structure coming from the main road) and the KFC at some kind of underpass.

Time: mostly between 18:00 and 21:00.

Service: BBFS, unless you bring your own condoms; try to bring lubrication to make it more enjoyable for everyone.

Price: 400-450 to the mamasan + about 200 for a hotel room.

If a girl looks suspiciously young just ask for her age or ID, as a previous commenter did. The best way to manage the scene:

Get Whatsapp numbers of the mamasans and they will deliver any girl to your hotel or AirBnB; use Google Translate to talk to anyone. Pay the mamasan in advance at arrival, or she will insist on joining you. Even better: ask the girls for their Whatsapp numbers and meet them directly (for 400) and let them introduce their own friends and girls. Avoids the pesky mamasans and helps the girls.

This strategy works best if you have more than a week to spend. In 2022 I spend a week at Lokasari at Olympic Hotel to have easy access, bring girls to my room (instead of some shithole) and collect numbers. The remaining 2 weeks I got a good AirBnB at Pasar Baru and were meeting the girls directly there (arranged via Whatsapp). Later in 2022 and 2023 my previous girls introduced "friends"cousins"sister" when I was back in Jakarta and asked them to. A steady supply if you want to meet young girls directly at your hotel, for a 400 BBFS session.

[CDawg3141]

I've got 4 weeks off and I've been planning a SE Asia tour of a few cities. Tokyo, Bangkok, and maybe Pattaya (have to pay my respects to the Mecca) are on the list. After going back 50 pages, RTFF and taking copious notes, Jakarta is sounding like a wonderful place.

However, the dates of my vacation line up nearly perfectly with Ramadan this year. I've found a few posts and mentions but now I'm worried I won't get the full experience. I went to Thailand once before and it was late Feb into March 2020. Remember that fun slice of time? The streets and clubs were pretty empty and I stayed away from crowds too. So here I am 3 years later and worried I'll have a repeat but for different reasons.

In any case, no real question. Just bitching. I'll probably still go and see the sights. LOL.

[HotDog666]

Purely from a mongering perspective did you enjoy Bali better? I'm still unsure if I will get bored in Jakarta and better off in Bali as there seems a bit more to do during the day. If your mongering experiences in Bali were better I see little reason to stay in Jakarta more than a day or two.

Tbh my horniness took a huge nosedive in Bali, don't know if it was the heat, other things to do or just hormones, so I didn't explore as much as I could have. But all things considered, the options were significantly less in Bali, and require more investment of time, but there is potentially better quality, some seriously good, if you're willing to spend more, or a lot more. Most of these will be on tinder or badoo or Instagram.

A couple of days in Jakarta is enough to tick it off I reckon.

[YngMong]

One thing is for sure, there is a hell of a great breadth of choice in Jakarta. I barely scratched the surface. If returning I would probably focus more on the Tinder girls and on Classic at around 7 pm or so when the choice is better. I would also explore the likes of Malio where I didn't get a chance.

Purely from a mongering perspective did you enjoy Bali better? I'm still unsure if I will get bored in Jakarta and better off in Bali as there seems a bit more to do during the day. If your mongering experiences in Bali were better I see little reason to stay in Jakarta more than a day or two.

[Amadeuss]

I wouldn't necessarily recommend a dedicated visit to Lokasari, if you're not staying for more than a week and don't want to bring a girl to your place. But if you're going to Travel anyway, you can as well start at Lokasari (ideally 18:00-21:00) and move on to Travel (7 minutes on foot) if you don't find anything you like. Particularly during Ramadan, as you got less choice at Travel / Classic.

Lokasari is a sort of mall. The old famous places like this western style disco, are closed since long. Other places there are KTV's. So --where exactly you pick up girls there? On the parking lot?

[HotDog666]

Jakarta is a city of few charms, and with little reason to visit other than the mongering. This is a little harsh and I'm sure there are many other cities worldwide in similar categories but I'm comparing with the likes of other cities I've visited in the region: the traffic is dreadful, there's little character, generic restaurants, bars etc.

Anyhow on the matter of mongering: I reported my "interesting" experience of tinder in an earlier report. To wrap things up I got an order in off Locanto which was a serious frustration- she bore no resemblance whatsoever to her photo- complete fake- even though I had asked if it was real and they had verified. I was clearly talking to an agent. Felt a little sorry for the lady herself who showed up but I was very annoyed at having been deceived. I think most of the ad's there are fake.

In the middle of my journey I tried Classic several times and Travel once. The latter was a let down on the night I was there, or I caved in too soon to the first number of girls the mamasan showed me. None of the girls were attractive and the one I chose was not a good performer.

Classic was a real hit and miss. On the first few occasions it was good but the last couple were as disappointing as Travel. There is a bar downstairs was better but I was put off by the seemingly random pricing by the mamasan ("600 k plus 200 k tips") so didn't explore further.

I tried Starmoon at 300 k and got nothing memorable but what do you expect at that price. There were a couple of spas here including sugar spa which I tried but once again I found the girls not very attractive. Either I have too high standards or I have been just unlucky with timings.

Running out of time I had choice of a couple of Tinder dates, who seemed appealing or the abovementioned Locanto who pressured me into opting for her- which is why I was so annoyed at the deception. Perhaps the Tinder ones would have been a great result. I won't know unless I go back.

One thing is for sure, there is a hell of a great breadth of choice in Jakarta. I barely scratched the surface. If returning I would probably focus more on the Tinder girls and on Classic at around 7 pm or so when the choice is better. I would also explore the likes of Malio where I didn't get a chance.

[Muzungufotsy]

Popped over to Lokasari yesterday evening. Liked the look of one and asked to see her KTP. She whipped it out of her purse with the smoothness of a seasoned FBI agent. We checked in at FF Hotel. It was downright the filthiest room I've ever seen. That includes the now demolished railway tracks. Unwashed linen, a blood stained pillow and one towel. There was so much bacteria in that room it made the ones living in her vagina smug with the relatively low population density.

Deed done. An experience nonetheless.

I completely agree with you.

[Kopi Hitam]

Popped over to Lokasari yesterday evening. Liked the look of one and asked to see her KTP. She whipped it out of her purse with the smoothness of a seasoned FBI agent. We checked in at FF Hotel. It was downright the filthiest room I've ever seen. That includes the now demolished railway tracks. Unwashed linen, a blood stained pillow and one towel. There was so much bacteria in that room it made the ones living in her vagina smug with the relatively low population density.

Deed done. An experience nonetheless.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Mzungu posts random criticisms of others detailed and useful reports. I point out that he never seems to add any actual information himself. Gaijin agrees with me and both our posts are deleted. Meanwhile Mzungu's nonsense remains on the board. If this continues nobody will post anything useful on here anymore as trolls can attack with no repercussions while those calling the trolls out are silenced. Moderation should be limited to actual offensive content against the policy of the board. I don't see how my posts violated any actual policy. The definition of "pointless" is very subjective. There are a lot of tangential discussions happening all the time. I hope the mods take this seriously if you don't want actual experienced mongers and contributors to leave.

"Moderation" seems to have become completely random at this point. I never said anything that should have been perceived as argumentative, yet here we are. I simply agreed with someone else that Mzugu does nothing on here but criticize and troll. But has he ever received a smackdown? Not that I am aware. I've been an active member of this forum for more than a decade but I certainly don't have to keep contributing valuable intel if the moderators that be don't appreciate it.

[JSmithJ88]

Supposedly there are twins available at classic.

Bucket list item for anybody interested.

I passed. They weren't cute enough IMO.

[NoGermaphobe]

The issue of content moderation is a challenging one. Facebook, Twitter, and all social media sites struggle mightily this this topic. What is truth for one individual is outright lies and trolling to another.

Lokasari has HOT ladies!

No it doesn't, they are all drug addicted, fat, 80 year olds with STDs!

There is no way for a message board moderator on a site this large to objectively moderate this discussion as everyone's opinion will vary based on their personal preferences, experiences, motivations, etc.

Here are my personal observations on this. Where I think this board tries to balance the line is this:

Differ with the opinions and counter then.

Not the individuals. Don't attack the individual.

I don't recall the specifics of both posts that were removed, but I believe one post may have used another poster's history to bolster their argument that the information was inaccurate and then questioned their motivations for posting. I think that is what may have contributed to the removal and been considered "over the line. " (just my person opinion and observation. I have no affiliation with the board other than being a member.) I don't recall the other post.

A possible alternative approach to differing opinions about a location would be to leave the individual out of it and counter with how their own direct experiences differ from that of the other and why.

Not everyone is going to agree about how good, bad, pretty, ugly, etc ladies or a destination are going to be. It's impossible to gain consensus on this. One person will go to Jakarta and love it. Another will go, get scammed, not speak the language, get stuck in traffic, be disgusted by the infrastructure, have a string of poor experiences with the ladies, etc and hate it.

I can't believe I am going to quote Antonin Scalia on anything, but I believe his quote was something along the lines of, "attack the idea, not the individual."

I don't have a horse in this race either way other than wanting to see continued valuable contributions to one of my favorite destinations. So I offer this as my observation and opinion only.