Jakarta

[KrisMonger]

Sure!. After I got my STD, spent money on fixing it, I wll fly back again to collect the 30 dollars!. Sounds like a great deal.

That might be difficult to collect! Is there a written insurance policy?

[Bwenz]

Keep in mind that for treating GC, the recommended treatment is Intramusclar ceftriaxone, oral cefixime is not reliable anymore. For chlamydia its doxycycline 100 MG twice a day for 10 days. You could get doxy prep, doxycycline 200 MG / day each day has been shown to reduce (but not eliminate) the risk of GC, Chlaymdia and syphillis.

GG.

Ever get a really bad sunburn from doxy being outside in any kind of sunlight awhile taking that medication? I've seen some nasty pictures online.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Any advice how you go about getting thoose antibiotics this without coming across to the Dr as a perverted foreigner there to fuck their women or do you not care? What particular antibiotics are recommended?

WHY would you or anybody else care? Just go to a doctor and tell them what you've got. They'll prescribe something for and you're done. WHO CARES?

[Gaijin Gigolo]

That might be difficult to collect! Is there a written insurance policy?

Impossible to collect. What a ludicrous notion!

[Buksida]

Classic have a money back guarantee if you catch anything too. Not many customers are aware of this.

That might be difficult to collect! Is there a written insurance policy?

[Geneva Guy]

Any advice how you go about getting thoose antibiotics this without coming across to the Dr as a perverted foreigner there to fuck their women or do you not care? What particular antibiotics are recommended?

Keep in mind that for treating GC, the recommended treatment is Intramusclar ceftriaxone, oral cefixime is not reliable anymore. For chlamydia its doxycycline 100 MG twice a day for 10 days. You could get doxy prep, doxycycline 200 MG / day each day has been shown to reduce (but not eliminate) the risk of GC, Chlaymdia and syphillis.

GG.

[FutureGuy]

Any advice how you go about getting thoose antibiotics this without coming across to the Dr as a perverted foreigner there to fuck their women or do you not care? What particular antibiotics are recommended?

There are 2 options:

Option 1:

You come up with a convincing story, that you may have caught something from your lovely wife back in America / Europe. You emphasize that you have been monogamous your entire life and that it definitely isn't something you picked up at Travel or Classic (make sure to mention them by name) as you wouldn't know about such a place let alone step inside.

Option 2:

You realize that it's not America or Europe, and nobody gives a f*ck about prescriptions. You go to your nearest pharmacy and they give you anything you want, no questions asked (except narcotics and similar stuff). L.

There are different versions what to take. The simplest would be a 3-day z-pak regimen.

[YngMong]

- after a long stay, I take a round of locally sourced antibiotics that will clear any unnoticed chlamydia / gonorrhea.

Any advice how you go about getting thoose antibiotics this without coming across to the Dr as a perverted foreigner there to fuck their women or do you not care? What particular antibiotics are recommended?

[BKKguru]

This is the thing. People need to be smart and discreet about it.

For fuck sake don't go around asking everyone about it beforehand.
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The worst thing in the world would be to go around and start asking mamis and ladies for no condom. Mami wants to write vouchers and tickets. Sick ladies that can't work can't make the mami money for writing vouchers.

Best advice is roll the dice and discuss it privately and discreetly in the room. Some will. Some won't. Take your chances. Classic is cheap.

I agree 100%. I thought this was understood.
Dont get Blacklisted by Classic Management. It has happened in the past.

~BKKguru

[SuperLove]

To yield better results, I advise punters. When you select a girl, sit with her on a table order a drink and feel her up. See her comfort factor, crack some jokes get her at ease and ask for your special service in room and do remind her about the extra tip. If she agrees head for the room otherwise drop her and go for the next in the lineup this time from another mamasan.

This is the thing. People need to be smart and discreet about it.

For fuck sake don't go around asking everyone about it beforehand.

If you ask a lady beforehand and she says no and you throw her back, mami is going to want to know why you didn't select her and ask her why. Mami wants to know because she wants her commission for writing the voucher. The lady is going to tell the mami you wanted no condom and then she gets a pass from the mami for not getting selected. Then the girls are going to discuss it amongst themselves as well back at the couch. Good luck getting another girl from that couch or others because word is going to spread. So even if you find someone that would normally be willing to do it for a few extra rupiah, she won't because she will lose face back at her couch if the other ladies see her go with you and they all know you are asking about no condom. Just like Zippos posts below.

The worst thing in the world would be to go around and start asking mamis and ladies for no condom. Mami wants to write vouchers and tickets. Sick ladies that can't work can't make the mami money for writing vouchers.

Best advice is roll the dice and discuss it privately and discreetly in the room. Some will. Some won't. Take your chances. Classic is cheap.

[NoGermaphobe]

This is the thing. People need to be smart and discreet about it.

For fuck sake don't go around asking everyone about it beforehand.

If you ask a lady beforehand and she says no and you throw her back, mami is going to want to know why you didn't select her and ask her why. Mami wants to know because she wants her commission for writing the voucher. The lady is going to tell the mami you wanted no condom and then she gets a pass from the mami for not getting selected. Then the girls are going to discuss it amongst themselves as well back at the couch. Good luck getting another girl from that couch or others because word is going to spread. So even if you find someone that would normally be willing to do it for a few extra rupiah, she won't because she will lose face back at her couch if the other ladies see her go with you and they all know you are asking about no condom. Just like Zippos posts below.

The worst thing in the world would be to go around and start asking mamis and ladies for no condom. Mami wants to write vouchers and tickets. Sick ladies that can't work can't make the mami money for writing vouchers.

Best advice is roll the dice and discuss it privately and discreetly in the room. Some will. Some won't. Take your chances. Classic is cheap.

I can tell you right off the bat, it's a big no if you ask that to Mami. However, does that happen, yes it does and YMMV with the girls with extra tips.

I'm friends with the manager who runs terminal and he usually sits with me on the table whenever I'm visiting. Saw a frustrated guy last time not finding single girl despite offering twice the rate and I inquired why, he replied, he is been asking to do BBFS which they don't allow just for the sake of girls safety and as well clients.

One might raise the question and to each on their own.

Do I do bareback sometimes, yes I do with my non-pros in Jakarta, Manila, KL whom I'm friends with for years.

Would I ever do that with a girl from Classic, Travel or even colosseum girls. Most probably not.

[Bwenz]

Will be in Jakarta in a week for two weeks. Hotel santika and hotel holiday Inn. Got both of these recommendations from reading here. Started Prep and bringing some antibiotics. Has anyone ever brought gold to sell at a local gold store? Sent some emails but waiting for reply on that one.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

AirBnB: I don't have any particular recommendation. Just read the reviews of previous guests. I would stay away from ELPIS apartments (to the east of Lokasari) though; you'll find 6-8 offers there. But even on the 15th floor there was a bug infestation and the train line directly next to the tower causes quite some noise.

Thanks for the warning on ELPIS.

[Zippos]

I can tell you right off the bat, it's a big no if you ask that to Mami. However, does that happen, yes it does and YMMV with the girls with extra tips.

I'm friends with the manager who runs terminal and he usually sits with me on the table whenever I'm visiting. Saw a frustrated guy last time not finding single girl despite offering twice the rate and I inquired why, he replied, he is been asking to do BBFS which they don't allow just for the sake of girls safety and as well clients.

One might raise the question and to each on their own.

Do I do bareback sometimes, yes I do with my non-pros in Jakarta, Manila, KL whom I'm friends with for years.

Would I ever do that with a girl from Classic, Travel or even colosseum girls. Most probably not.

Can we ask the Mamasan straight up if the girl will do BBFS?

I presume once the girl agrees to BBFS, I can creampie the girl.

Are these girls screened for STDs and are they on contraception?

[FutureGuy]

That's so funny. Love it LOL.

If some should still be confused. And I hope nobody is:

Yes, you can catch an STD if you bare-back a girl. Your Tinder date and in particular pay4 play girls. Particularly in poor countries you should assume that girl don't get tested for STD and will only seek treatment with antibiotics if they show overt symptoms of an infection. Particularly syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia can be with little symptoms in the first years. Even more so in women. However: the only real concern for men is HIV. And as long as you're a man doing a girl, the risk of transmission is a lot lower than for chlamydia or gonorrhea.

However, for peace of mind, I'm taking some precautions:

- I'm taking PreP against HIV during my travel, prescribed by my doc at home; in me it does not have any notable side-effect; it's probably overkill, but my health care provider is covering 95% of the price. So I don't mind.

- I'm vaccinated with Gardasil9 against HPV.

- I'm tested for all kinds of STD 2-3 times a year (again, fully covered).

- after a long stay, I take a round of locally sourced antibiotics that will clear any unnoticed chlamydia / gonorrhea.

As for asking the mamasan: don't. Not in Travel Hotel. Not at Lokasari. The girl needs to save face. If a girl really is hesitant at Lokasari (which I encountered exactly once), you can promise that you will finish on her stomach. But most girls are fine with CIP. In Travel / Classic I have a 70% success rate of negotiating BBFS.

AirBnB: I don't have any particular recommendation. Just read the reviews of previous guests. I would stay away from ELPIS apartments (to the east of Lokasari) though; you'll find 6-8 offers there. But even on the 15th floor there was a bug infestation and the train line directly next to the tower causes quite some noise.