Jakarta

[Thampi62]

If you want to reminisce with the girls who hung out in CJs BATS Red Square and Blok M in the heydays 10+ years ago, head to EP. They're just about all there.

Is it still worth enough to visit EP for hunting freelancers these days? If so what time in weekends it can be active?

[Scarer]

I use an international ATM account that waives ATM fees. There's a new ripoff happening when I used BCA. They had a built in currency exchange rate that told you they charged 5%. So because it's not a flat fee, my ATM card can't waive that fee. I had to pay it. IDR is at 15500 for USD conversion and the BCA ATM converted it at 14800 for its service fee. What a rip off. The airport was selling IDR at 15300 and I should have just bought IDR there. Yes, I saw the single ATM, but just walk another 50 meters ahead, pass the door, and you'll see a bunch of exchange booths offering traveler rate.

Also, what's the deal now that so many ATM's limit the max cash out to 1,250,000? So stupid.

1. Use an ATM outside that is attached to a bank office. Usually they are safer.

2. Reject currency conversion offered. Every ATM will show that option (maybe in local language).

3. Always carry some money (maybe 200 K) back to your home country so that you can use for Taxi the next time you visit. I always keep some money as a backup but however use my card to book Grab from the Airport.

4. If travel into a country with no local currency, then bring high denomination home currency notes and exchange very minimal amount at the airport (inside or outside wherever they offer good rates) to manage the Taxi.

[SuperLove]

We all did it at some point in our mongering career. Going ahead don't be foolish enough to ask mamasan about bareback, it's a no no. And if you do chances of you landing in a no fly zone. I would often ask mama for basic services like DFK & BBBJ, both very important for me and additional like great attitude in room, if she does chances are she would offer me BB / anal with a smile.

When I was young and stupid.

Yes, years ago. I was this stupid. I went into a well known place (mentioned in the forums before but I won't be so boring to name the place) where I was very lucky to have amazing bb sex with a beautiful young provider. I went back the NEXT day to try to do it again, and same provider was not in the line up. So I picked another, and went in. When getting to the deed, I rubbed bare on her and she demanded the packet. I tell her I would tip very nicely if she would keep going, she said no. So I wrapped up, and the session wasn't that great. Then she said no DFK, and then later, she wanted to do covered BJ. At one point, I just stood up and got dressed. She was confused / upset / whatever. We went back to the counter and MMS asked "what happened?" and the provider was the one who immediately started blurting out how I wanted to do everything without a condom. So MMS brought me to a quiet corner and asked me if this was true. I looked at her and said that she gave me a girl with great service yesterday and today, for the same price, I'm getting really bad service because she said no to this and no to that. I would prefer if she recommend to me a girl like yesterday.

MMS gave me a sorry and exasperated look, like she really messed up and was stuck. So yes, she did feel bad that she introduced me to a girl with "extra" service, and this next girl made a loud stink about extra. All MMS said at that point was "I'm very sorry, but every girl is different, would you like to try again?" She was super nice, and I would have tried again, but the problem was that this place was 780 k per session and I didn't pack a second round's worth of IDR with me. Only enough for bluebird round trip, entry, and generous tip one time.

This was years ago and I learned to just relax and carry extra cash. Don't make a scene. Don't piss off MMS or providers. Don't get banned. The next time you will probably get better service.

[BenderOver]

Dude, I flipped when you wrote this, are you serious! I am waiting for a reply and want to know mamasan's reaction when you ask her this.

When I was young and stupid.

Yes, years ago. I was this stupid. I went into a well known place (mentioned in the forums before but I won't be so boring to name the place) where I was very lucky to have amazing bb sex with a beautiful young provider. I went back the NEXT day to try to do it again, and same provider was not in the line up. So I picked another, and went in. When getting to the deed, I rubbed bare on her and she demanded the packet. I tell her I would tip very nicely if she would keep going, she said no. So I wrapped up, and the session wasn't that great. Then she said no DFK, and then later, she wanted to do covered BJ. At one point, I just stood up and got dressed. She was confused / upset / whatever. We went back to the counter and MMS asked "what happened?" and the provider was the one who immediately started blurting out how I wanted to do everything without a condom. So MMS brought me to a quiet corner and asked me if this was true. I looked at her and said that she gave me a girl with great service yesterday and today, for the same price, I'm getting really bad service because she said no to this and no to that. I would prefer if she recommend to me a girl like yesterday.

MMS gave me a sorry and exasperated look, like she really messed up and was stuck. So yes, she did feel bad that she introduced me to a girl with "extra" service, and this next girl made a loud stink about extra. All MMS said at that point was "I'm very sorry, but every girl is different, would you like to try again?" She was super nice, and I would have tried again, but the problem was that this place was 780 k per session and I didn't pack a second round's worth of IDR with me. Only enough for bluebird round trip, entry, and generous tip one time.

This was years ago and I learned to just relax and carry extra cash. Don't make a scene. Don't piss off MMS or providers. Don't get banned. The next time you will probably get better service.

[BenderOver]

This is the thing. People need to be smart and discreet about it.

For fuck sake don't go around asking everyone about it beforehand.

If you ask a lady beforehand and she says no and you throw her back, mami is going to want to know why you didn't select her and ask her why. Mami wants to know because she wants her commission for writing the voucher. The lady is going to tell the mami you wanted no condom and then she gets a pass from the mami for not getting selected. Then the girls are going to discuss it amongst themselves as well back at the couch. Good luck getting another girl from that couch or others because word is going to spread. So even if you find someone that would normally be willing to do it for a few extra rupiah, she won't because she will lose face back at her couch if the other ladies see her go with you and they all know you are asking about no condom. Just like Zippos posts below.

The worst thing in the world would be to go around and start asking mamis and ladies for no condom. Mami wants to write vouchers and tickets. Sick ladies that can't work can't make the mami money for writing vouchers.

Best advice is roll the dice and discuss it privately and discreetly in the room. Some will. Some won't. Take your chances. Classic is cheap.

This is very very likely. Every girl I've bb at Classic opened the packet, unwrapped the cover, and threw it in the trash like it had been used.

Use your big head and just take the 375 k loss if you end up with a provider who's not giving you the service you want. Go back downstairs after having a little fun, and pick another one. It's not a big loss.

[NoGermaphobe]

Interestingly enough, when I was there in December, there were Bluebirds right outside of KC on the other side of the street from the parking gate. About 3 or 4 of them right in front of the make shift food tents. This was the first time I ever recall seeing Bluebirds in many years there. What I have done for the past few years though is just order a ride through GoJek or Grab and sit on the couch in the KC lobby and monitor their arrival after I settle up my bill. Usually takes a few minutes, but I can relax in comfort while I wait for them to arrive and walk out to the street when they get close. This was much later in the evening though than in the original report. IndoMaret was already closed and it was like 11 or closer to midnight as I recall.

Before GoJek and Grab were widespread, I often took the long walk up to the main road and would wait for a Bluebird to drive by. I often waited quite a while. But I would never use any non Bluebird taxi in Jakarta.

When you walk out of KC, look left, the dark street. Walk to the street and look right. Cross the street where there's an opening at the median. There's usually one Bluebird parked there, maybe two. Are those Bluebirds gone now? That was your only hope to find a taxi without pulling one up on My Bluebird or walking a million miles to the mall.

[NoGermaphobe]

Unless this is a new modification on certain banks' ATMs, there should be two options on any given ATM to choose from before you withdraw your cash.

That is:

"accept with currency conversion" - This usually has the BS fees the ATM owner charges. It is just 100% pure profit for the bank. It is called DCC, Dynamic Currency Conversion and you are essentially giving the ATM owner permission to convert the currency for you, for a fee.

"accept without currency conversion" - This should be closer to the spot exchange rate and your home bank will do the conversion for you when it processes the transaction. It will still usually be less than the spot exchange rates you see on XE, etc. But much better than using the ATM owner's DCC.

Interesting if BCA has somehow removed this option. I typically use CIMB Niaga. In December, they still had the option to decline the bank's DCC (Dynamic Currency Conversion). And at CIMB Niaga, you can typically withdraw 3 million.

I use an international ATM account that waives ATM fees. There's a new ripoff happening when I used BCA. They had a built in currency exchange rate that told you they charged 5%. So because it's not a flat fee, my ATM card can't waive that fee. I had to pay it. IDR is at 15500 for USD conversion and the BCA ATM converted it at 14800 for its service fee. What a rip off. The airport was selling IDR at 15300 and I should have just bought IDR there. Yes, I saw the single ATM, but just walk another 50 meters ahead, pass the door, and you'll see a bunch of exchange booths offering traveler rate.

Also, what's the deal now that so many ATM's limit the max cash out to 1,250,000? So stupid.

[BenderOver]

Now the bad part about going to KG now. There are no taxis any more. I even asked the Indomart guy and he said no taxis only Grab there. I literally waited from 6 pm to 6:48 pm before I got a taxi and that was only by luck cause a Bluebird taxi dropped someone off at the club.

When you walk out of KC, look left, the dark street. Walk to the street and look right. Cross the street where there's an opening at the median. There's usually one Bluebird parked there, maybe two. Are those Bluebirds gone now? That was your only hope to find a taxi without pulling one up on My Bluebird or walking a million miles to the mall.

[BenderOver]

Just warning others. At T2 airport after you exit the baggage area there is a row where there used to be a lot of ATMs but only 1 remains.

Someone has done something to it so it gives a msg that money isn't available but it still deducts it from your account.

I use an international ATM account that waives ATM fees. There's a new ripoff happening when I used BCA. They had a built in currency exchange rate that told you they charged 5%. So because it's not a flat fee, my ATM card can't waive that fee. I had to pay it. IDR is at 15500 for USD conversion and the BCA ATM converted it at 14800 for its service fee. What a rip off. The airport was selling IDR at 15300 and I should have just bought IDR there. Yes, I saw the single ATM, but just walk another 50 meters ahead, pass the door, and you'll see a bunch of exchange booths offering traveler rate.

Also, what's the deal now that so many ATM's limit the max cash out to 1,250,000? So stupid.

[SuperLove]

1001, definitely no.

Travel. No way, girls denied BBBJ so BB was a long shot.

Emporium, I got anal and unbelievably very good service. I am not into BB but my gut feel, if I has asked I would have got it. Again as I said I didn't ask as I was not interested.

Classic, definitely possible. Again I got excellent service in room and if I had asked, yes.

Were you able to get BB in those spas?

[JSmithJ88]

Travel.

1001 colosseum.

I was excited about this place another punter also recommended, high end with entry charge of 200 k with a drink. Saw about 60-70 girls sitting at a distance. Very beautiful with many stunners. Lady mamasan was pretty and helpful, spoke clean english and has always helped me in my selection. Price here is around 1. 4 mn, but before that saw the international selection. They are seated in a private area and are called downstairs. I was blown away by the quality. Drop dead gorgeous. About 15-17 of them each better than the other. Only 10's. Viet thai russian kazak, great bodies sharp features and stunning face. Price 3. 3 mn. Nice rooms, luxurious and one could spend the night over. I've had 3 locals and 1 international by now. Very happy and satisfying. Enjoy 30 minutes in the cabana next to the pool followed by 60 in the room. Sadly you can't take them to the pool, its only for punters. My rating A+.

Emporium.

Same setup as 1001 but on a smaller scale, entry 200 k. Choices are less but still very good. Took a beauty and went to spa with her. I took steam and sauna while she changed, when I came out she was in her robe. Took it off and she's in her bikini, oh my god. Great shape great contours, we step inside the pool. It was heavenly, just magical, 30 minutes passed by like a breeze off to the room for 60 minutes. Great service. I've done 3 girls by now, rooms are very nice try to take the suite. Excellent setup. My rating A+.

Were you able to get BB in those spas?

[Goferring]

Could even do a bit of pre-trip work on on-line dating apps. Set up meetings in Jakarta with a promise of a trip to Bali if you click. And I'd be very surprised if you don't find a cutie to fill your days.

I had a beautiful time with a girl from Java, staying with her at the Hotel Shanti Beach in Sanur, carrying her around on a $5 a day rental motor bike all over the island. She was dark skin, a sweet but shy and timid in bed, a very poor Muslim girl, wearing threadbare clothes....

Also picked up a young single mother in Sanur near Denpasar, rode around Bali with her on the motor bike, eating, drinking, beaching, had wild passionate BB sex in the hotel. A Muslim, she did not drink alcohol or eat pork, so we had to avoid those places. If you find any attractive girls in public places, don't be shy to try to make friends...

Importing a Jakarta / Surabaya / Jogja girl into Bali is definitely to be recommended. It takes a bit to set it up and select the right girl but the pay off is definitely worth it.

However, I wouldn't recommend going online and promising a holiday straight away. It's likely the girl (s) will be on their best behaviour to secure the prize, then their behaviour may fall off once they are difficult to return home. Much better to stay quiet at first, find someone you click with, then offer a week (end) away once you know how she behaves normally. Unless she has a job that she can't get away from, 99% of girls will jump at the opportunity.

Balinese girls are definitely gorgeous. If you are a big susu guy, remember the further north you go, the bigger they get. While the girls can be pleasant and outgoing, it should be remembered that true Balinese girls have the eyes of a million friends and family watching them so they are very unlikely to quickly jump into bed with the any passing stranger. Especially one 40 years her senior. She knows that word will get back to everyone immediately and her reputation will be scared for life.

Girls that have moved to Bali for work or study, however, are totally different. They are far more likely to be more accepting of some fun times. I'm guessing this is actually what Solo's girls were. Remember that not all girls in Bali are Balinese. Much better to target a girl who has come from elsewhere and won't be missed for a few days.

Enjoy. G.

[Delbo1]

Could even do a bit of pre-trip work on on-line dating apps. Set up meetings in Jakarta with a promise of a trip to Bali if you click. And I'd be very surprised if you don't find a cutie to fill your days.

Yea then what happens if she takes her period the full week you are with her in Bali? That's a disaster. Best just to go with flow.

[Irish Mongrel]

You should stay for 4 to 5 days in Jakarta or Yogyakarta to search for beautiful girls to go with you for a vacation in Bali or better yet, Lombok. A lot of girls would be happy to go for a week or two, just the matter of how much money you can agree with them. That way you can have the best of both world. Fly into Denpasar, spend a few days in both Bali and Lombok which has much fewer tourists, remains authentic Indonesian and is my preferred vacation spot in Indonesia. Cruise around the islands, hang out on beaches, snorkel, dive, fish, party, temples, volcano, rice, cocoa, coffee farms, silk shops, artists village, fancy restaurants, dance clubs ect. Man, you would have such a beautiful time in a nice, clean, quiet, romantic island with a hot girl by your side. The prospect of such a fun sexy vacation got me all excited, want to pack my back this week and go with beautiful, gentle and sexy girls like Nesya or Medan, spend a whole week with them on the islands.

In Bali or Lombok You can still go out and search for more local girls while your date sleeps late. If you find hotter girls with better deals, just buy your date a $50 airfare on shaky Air Garuda and send her back to Jakarta. She would be happy.

Could even do a bit of pre-trip work on on-line dating apps. Set up meetings in Jakarta with a promise of a trip to Bali if you click. And I'd be very surprised if you don't find a cutie to fill your days.

[Captain Solo]

I was staying at a hotel on Kuta Beach with bungalows scattered in a huge green garden, dense with lots of trees, shrubs and vegetation of all kinds. Open the door in the morning, a long green snake was sun tanning on the door step, got me creeped out and pissed off. Called reception. They sent a guy with a shovel, sliced it in half and carried it away. Make me wonder if there were more snakes slithering inside the bungalow. Damn.

In Sanur, I stayed at the Villa Shanti Beach, again with bungalows scattered in a green garden in a beautiful leafy area with nice, clean beach front, just North of the Hyatt. Room was nice, clean, mattress firm, sheets and towels bright white, smelling fresh. I went around knocking on furniture and cabinets to chase out any potential snakes. Bali, being warm and wet, has lots of snakes. Made wild love with a couple girls on that bed. Had good buffet breakfast with my dates in an open air dining room on the beach, very romantic.

Met a dozen Swiss women doing a convention. They said that hotel was the nicest and the best deal in Sanur. They return to it every year for winter vacation. A few women hired dark, skinny guys for the night, taking them to breakfast like real couples. Guys were so shy being exposed to the public.

Near Villa Shanti a huge government-owned hotel resort complex had gone into disrepairs, moldy walls outside, paint peeling inside, very few guests.

Would definitely have a beautiful, romantic and sexy vacation in Bali / Lombok with hot girls from Jakarta. Should be able to make arrangement over the phone with Google translate with girls I met. Would have to fly in to Jakarta to make sure they will fly out with me and not flake on their vacation.