Jakarta

[Jkt After Dark 2]

The 10 basic rules that could take you from being 'that guy' to 'his guy'.

1. Leave the man jewelry at home. Men like Kodja don't like to be out-scented or accessorized.

2. Be Honest
Do tell someone if you are not interested in dating them again. Being lied to and hopes kept alive is an evil and malicious act (yes I mean it that strongly). If you don't want to see someone again then let them know that in the nicest possible way you can.

3. Be Creative
Men like Kodja like men who think outside the box. So spice up that profile of yours. Put in a funny quirk about yourself or a quote from your favorite relative. No novels, please. They want to get some idea who you are, not read 'War and Peace.' Once you've set your date, be sure to make a plan. Take it up a notch up from coffee. Some good date ideas are a picnic in the park, a day at a local art fair, or a sporting event.

4. Humor is Hot
Though the number-one thing a guy like Kodja desires in a guy is a sense of humor, they're not looking for Josh, Jokester. Men like Kodja want someone light-hearted whom they can enjoy being around. A man who can laugh at himself is very sexy, so don't take yourself so seriously. And please please do not quote Seinfeld. They know that it's your favorite show, but if they want to re-visit the "Contest" episode, they'll buy the DVD.

5. Dress to Impress
Guys like Kodja put an effort into getting ready for you. You should do the same. You don't have to look like you stepped off the runways of Milan, but be aware of what's in style. Acid-washed jeans are never a good idea unless you're a drummer in a hair metal band. The sock less thing may have worked for Don Johnson, but times have changed. Finally, leave the Drakkar and man jewelry at home. Men like Kodja don't like to be out-scented or accessorized.

6. Have Game
Be confident, make eye contact. A man who looks at the ground shows insecurity. Keep the conversation about yourself to a minimum. Ask questions about your date. Be complimentary, but don't overdo it. Conversation topics like "How many dates I've had this week" or "How I spent five grand on my new plasma TV" are not attractive. Don't flirt with the waiter. If you have a wandering eye and they catch you in the act, it's best to fake a seizure.

7. Mind Your Manners
Please be on time and if you're going to be late, just call. Open the car door for him. Pull his seat out. Turn your cell phone off. If you are meeting him somewhere, offer to pay for his valet. If you are driving him home, walk him to the door. Most importantly, if it's your first date, GRAB THE CHECK. Most men like Kodja today will offer to pay, but they are just testing you. Make sure you get an A+.

8. Be Interesting
Never be too available. Being available every night of the week and at the end of every whimsical phone call or possible rendezvous means you are making yourself uninteresting and a possible doormat. Be busy, be unavailable generally and be interesting.

9. No Eager Beavers
They're looking for a man, not a stalker. Court the guy, be attentive, but try not to overstay your welcome. There is nothing worse than the man who won't go away. It's like getting up at the curtain of a bad musical, only to find out there are three more acts left.

10. People love Enigma
Don't give away too much about yourself at the start. People love enigma and mystery. Revealing to your new date your inner most secrets on date number two will quickly ruin everything. A small bit at a time people.

[Three Nuts]

As I wrote 2 days ago, Lokasarai Plaza area is the best area in SEAsia for sex; on my second day I went to TC and I met a sweet girl, Ratih, who was unconfortable inside and didn't want to go in the room with me; the mamasan pushed her to go with me and we went in the room. A normal session with straight sex and nothing else, but satisfyitng for me. Inside the room we exchanged our tel. Numbers and I went away.

On the day after she sent me a sms asking me how I was. I replyyed asking her to meet me again in my hotel. When we met I realized she was a free lancer not used to go with men (I mean, not a prostitute.). Ratih, she is just 18, finished college school and not working yet. She can speak a basic english, and I believed her. Well, after that first session in the hotel, she became my regualar lover in Jakarta. I used to call her in the morning, when I wanted.

Yes, as a monger I am a faithful monger.

She was not used to oral sex, and the first time I tried to kiss her pussy she refuse, but after insisting she accepted it and she said "glee" or "gli": what does it mean? Can som other member tell me if it means "tickle"? . The 3th and 4th time we met she enjoyed my licking. She was not used to give blow job, but I convinced her to do it, putting on my dick a raspberry taste condom! Anyway I used to fuck her without condom, because I realized that she doesn't go with other men and she is very clean. Teaching her oral sex was more exciting for me than fucking her!

Damge for each session: 250'000 plus a drink or sometimes a fast lunch. She went to meet me only in afternoons, because she used to say to parents to go to the mall with a friend, and she was not allowed to go out in the evening or night. She used to stay with me 2 or 3 hours before going home.

Once she arrived with her friend, who I invited in the room for a strip-tease; her friend gave me a nice strip-tease, let me touch her boobs, but when I tried to touch her pussy she refused and said she was virgin. So I pushed her away with 100'000 for the show and concentrated my energies on Ratih. Funny experience, anyway.

By the way, the price in TC is 30k for entrance, including a drink, plus 250k at the counter for going in the room with a girl. Fixed price for maximum 1h and no more than 1 shot. The girl and mamasan expect a tip, which is normally 50k each: if you give less they complain: "why only 20 or 30? ".

Of course I tried a few other girls. On the last day, sad for returning home and leaving Ratih, I met a sweet young thing sitting on the steps of Lokasari Plaza and I asked her to come to my hotel. One of the poor girls who go to Lokasai not every day, but only when they need cash. She wanted 300k and I lowered to 200, but I was tired after the session with Ratih and I wanted to have a dinner; so I wernt to restaurant alone and after more than 1 hour she was still sitting there waiting for me (or maybe looking for another client); I lowered again the price to 150k and we went in the hotel for a complete session, including oral.

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[Potentie45]

Yesterday I visited Hotel Melawai in Blok Many goodlooking girls. I choose Erni. Taller than average, good looking too, good social skills, big boobs and great service. Passionately kissing, BBBJ and she obvious came to orgasm while we were having sex. No hurry. It looks like she enjoys her (blow) job.

[Smoothy]

If Bangkok is better for soapy, I'd better start planning my trip there.

For soapy, there is absolutely no comparison.

Bangkok is FAR better than Jakarta.

[Sapperken]

SK,

I have a sessions yesterday with annie a cutie very nice service, I like the soapie not as good as Bangkok, I think they have the best girl in that area, I thinl berlian cost is 216, 000, for the extra cost I think kartika is a ok but for the same cost hotel travel is a better place and more quality girl but no soapie cost with one drink dlx room 305, 000 and both place I only got one shot.

Fast Eddie 48

Soapy massage is a real turn on for me and I've had a few in Kartika, sometimes going back in the same day for seconds. On my last trip I went to Berlian for the first time. Missed the soapy experience but the Fuck was great. Next trip I aim to find Hotel Travel. Never made it there last time.

If Bangkok is better for soapy I'd better start planning my trip there.

SK

[Fast Eddie 48]

I guess everybody gets a different experience. I actually look for Sonja at Kartika when I am in town. I've seen her several times now and we usually have a great (not quite GFE) time. I too get sick of the pornstar sounds..... so I told to stop. No problem. Never get hurried out, maybe my internal clock is tuned in to the 1 hour :-) time frame.

I usually spend a while in the bar area with the girls, helps to connect and talking is part of the foreplay in my opinion.

It's like is often said on this board YMMV. Sorry you won't be back, Kartika has it's place in the spectrum of Jakarta.

Have fun.

Sk

SK,

I have a sessions yesterday with annie a cutie very nice service, I like the soapie not as good as Bangkok, I think they have the best girl in that area, I thinl berlian cost is 216, 000, for the extra cost I think kartika is a ok but for the same cost hotel travel is a better place and more quality girl but no soapie cost with one drink dlx room 305, 000 and both place I only got one shot.

Fast Eddie 48

[FreebieFan]

Have a trip to Jakarta over next few days. Just found out that my lady friend will stay with me all day. I'm wondering where is good to go in Jakarta thats not the normal mall visit.

Anyone know any interesting places to visit?

Also, are there any MPs' that we could go to that we could get massage side by side?

Thanks

[Jaimito Cartero]

Kartika is a reasonable place. Reasonably priced, and some decent chicas. My only complaint is that they don't sell any water. I usually try to stay away from alcohol and most sugary drinks before a session.

[Sapperken]

I guess everybody gets a different experience. I actually look for Sonja at Kartika when I am in town. I've seen her several times now and we usually have a great (not quite GFE) time. I too get sick of the pornstar sounds..... so I told to stop. No problem. Never get hurried out, maybe my internal clock is tuned in to the 1 hour :-) time frame.

I usually spend a while in the bar area with the girls, helps to connect and talking is part of the foreplay in my opinion.

It's like is often said on this board YMMV. Sorry you won't be back, Kartika has it's place in the spectrum of Jakarta.

Have fun.

SK

[Funnyboy76]

I forgot something.

I was paying 300 for 1 hour. And she told me at the bar that is was one hour full. And I ask here to be sure that I would have one hour totaly.

But after I finish she just start to get dressede up.

So maybe they shoud have a clock in there.

Bu anyway I'll not go back to this place again clock or not.

[Funnyboy76]

Just came back from Kartika. Damn that place is old and dirty.

Ok. I know it has been there at least 10 years as I can read on the internet.

And the price is lowe to.

Just came in the door and a middleage woman came to me. I think shes about 35 maybe even older. She didn want to tell me how old. Here name was Sorija or something like that. Shes half chinees.

But OK I think she was OK looking caus the rest was pretty young and I was told that they didn speak any english at all.

Well. Order a beer and smoke a cigeret and then up to the room.

She startet with some body soap thing while she was making the most anoying pornsound. Really a turn off.

Not anything good actualy.

Well I guess it was about 10 min and then on to the shower.

Then some kissing on my upper body. Actualy it was more licking caus I was wet all over. And still with the same anoying pornsound. And now it just go higher and higher.

Then finaly she start to give me BJ and I hope that she could shut up. But nooo. Even higher now.

OH no.

Well. Finaly it was my turn to do some work. Just had to finish here asap so I could get out of there.

Finaly finish and she start showering again washing here face and brushing here teath like I was poisen.

Then my turn and in my cloth again. Then I ask here if I should pay to here or downstairs? And then she start to ask for tips like I wasnt going to pay here some. I hate when people ASK for tips.

Well I had a lot of 10000RP and wantet to give here some of thoes. But wantet to count them before I just handet them over to here.

Så startet to pull out 1 and then one more. The she pointet on one and told me that it was a small tip.

Hey shut the fuck up bitz. I wasnt finish counting yet. But if you don't want to have any tips just tell me. Take it or leave it I told here. Normaly I pay Ok in tips if I got a good treatment. But this here wasnt for more than 20 as she got. Haven't she been asking or telling me that it wasnt a good tip she would have got 40 instead.

Totaly I was there for 35 min from I walk in the door to I left.

Well thats just my point of wiev for Kartika. And for sure ikke never go there again. I can find better places around to go with better service and for the same price.

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[Three Nuts]

First of all, I want to say thankyou to JAD an all the senior members, who gave me a lot of informations and suggestions. I have been reading this forum for years, and I well know who is trustable.

Let's stop polemics and talk about sex. I seldom post reports, but now it's my turn! GREAT EXPERIENCE IN MANNGA BESAR.

That's the area of Jakarta where you can pick free lancers as well as regular professionals; I have been there before and after my working travel to Sumatera and I didn't visit the many massage parlours of the area, because you can meet girls in the side streets of Mangga Besar, or in restaurants, and it's useless to go everywhere else. Moreover Mangga Besar is full of restaurants and foodstalls (dinnertime only, not lunchtime) with delicious food, there are 2 internet points, which I visited regularly to be in contact with my office and relatives, and there is a good atravel agent, PELITA TOURS, who arranged me the flights to Sumatera on my chosen days and time at a cheap price. About the clubs:

1. TC in Lokasari Plaza

Is still the best venue I ever visited; go there in the afternoon, because you can find some students free lancers, while in the evening and night there are only the regular working girls; every afternoon I have been there I have seen new faces, and on the secon time, I met Ratih. But that's a long story and I will write it later. The venue is dark and music is loud, but if you adjust your senses you can swim inside looking at the girls. There is a new mamasan, a kind and elegant woman in her first 30's: she is wort of a shot, and next time I will ask her.

2. MILLES at the 7-8th floor of Lokasari Plaza.

Is a discoteque where people go to enjoy music and to dance, not the exact place for me, because people arrive after midnight; I just went there for looking and I saw girls in groups of 2-3-4- or sometimes with boyfriend; they want to dance and drink and some of them are on extasy, so they only think to dance; but if you go there with an indonesian male friend who can speak to them and introduce them, you can find your chance to finish the night in a badroom. This is an information for FUNNYBOY76: there are rooms in Mille's, at the last floor, and price is 200'000rp for short time, but I think it's not worth of: in Mangga Besar there are may hotels with prices fron 200 for a standard room to 400 for a suite, and you can stay till 12am and sometimes you have breakfast. So why to get a room in the discoteque? Just go to Olimpic Hotel or Prinsn Park, at the same side of Lokasary Plaza, or to Astika or Metropole at the opposite side of the road.

3. SIERRA, on the same side of the road Mangga Besar of Lokasari Plaza is terrific: very dark and very loud techno music; Yes, girls inside, but you cannot communicate and the quality of girls is very low. I think that girls, to resist inside, must be under drugs.

4. SPARKS discoteque, ath the opposite side of Lokasari, 4-500 meters east is a nice discoteque with live bands playing, I went there 2times for relaxing, after a heavy day in Jakarta; waiters are friendly, the bands change every week, and you can find middle-class FL girls on Friday and Saturday nights, and the around 10 professionals. Average quality, every night.

Anyway, walking around Mangga Besar in afternoon, expecially on saturdays and sundays can give you nice meetings (I mean FL students or unemployed girls who want to get some money), . So, avoid the massage parlours; in the night there are a lot of pro, who want more or less 300'000 to go to the hotel, but always the same faces every night. Not my stuff. I met a great FL student, Ratih, but I will talk about her later.

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[Dorman]

You don't need prescriptions or anything to get all the Ciallis and Viagra, legit or knock off, you need in Jakarta guys, the town is coming down with people selling the stuff; it's all over the place, they sell them in regular pharmacies, in little holes in the wall, in shops, in malls, everywhere. I'm curious as to why anyone thinks there's any difficulty about getting the stuff.

Getting booze on the other hand, now that's a problem.

[Sapperken]

There are scores of reports in the forum about where to get Viagra and also details about the shop at Mal Ambassador. Just type in Cialis or Viagra in the search column and you will find it.

I've managed to convince my GP to prescribe Cialis for me. Rationed to 4 per month but I just save them up for my trips. Thank you NHS!

I did notice, however, on the way out of Jakarta last time that the drug store in the departure area of the airport sells Cialis. Looks like a legit outlet. A bit late for your trip by then but if you wanted to you could stock up for your next trip. Sorry, didn't clock the price.

SK

[Jaimito Cartero]

Well, I've finally been back at work for a week, and managed to have a few minutes to catch my breath.

A big thanks to JAD for showing me some nice places. He warned me that staying at Take's was a pain, and he was right. We had some great meals at a Dim Sum place in Mangga Besar, Furama and Super Chicken (er, Kitchen).

It was also nice to meet a few new ISG'ers, including Smoothy.

If not for the horrid traffic and pollution, I'd probably rent or buy a place in Jakarta.

I met up early with the famous Kiki. For those that have PMed me for her phone, I'll give it if you still want it after this report.

She was pretty good, the first time, although she is a bit over the top and actress like. With fake moaning, and oh, I missed you so much and such. She is very compliant, but does live far out. I think I spent almost 200k on taxis both way for her.

I tried to contact her a few days later, and she never answered her phone. I also decided to have her come to my hotel for my last night. I called her in the afternoon for a 9pm appointment. She was happy to hear from me, and said she'd come, no problem.

at 8:30pm, she messages that she can't come, someone in her family is sick or something. She then goes on and on about trying to get together the next day. I was pissed because I had made sure I was back in time, and ready, only to get fucked over (er, not). This kind of stuff really irritates me.

I'll post some pictures of her in the photo gallery later this week.