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  1. #17767

    Bad Trip

    Tremendous start. Second day here a street girl gave a gift I have not received for 10 years. STD. Went and got a shot but did not work so had to go back and get a shot and take oral pills for a week. I took around 9 girls. One wanted me to finish quickly which sucked because it started out great but at the 10 minute point her attitude changed. Two girls complained of pain within 7 minutes. It is not my size so it was either they were just complainers or they had an STD too which caused them pain and they did not know they were sick so only wanted missionary. Actually, had a hot 9 and made plans for the next day and had her Whatsapp but never saw her again. No Whatsapp reply. Looked for her for 6 nights. Had 2-3 fun girls.

    What I saw were about 5 mamasans and 3-6 girls. 2 mamasans had phones. 2 had no phones. 1 no idea. At times there were 3 mamasans and 1 girl so they were all trying to find a customer for the 1 girl. They all talk to each other so everyone knows your business. The mamasans do not really know or trust the girls so she will follow far behind you to your hotel and wait for the girl outside so she knows she will get paid. Even if you call and have a girl delivered the mamasan may go with her, get dropped off just out of site, and wait outside because the motorcycle fee is the same for 1 or 2 passengers. I never walked holding her hand or with my arm around any of the girls but still everyone talked. Days later I told the girls to follow 3 minutes behind me to avoid problems of being seen together.

    One street mamasan called a girl to come then tells me I owe 100 k IDR for transportation and pay first. The girl would have taken a motorcycle and not a taxi. For 100 k IDR on a motorcycle I can go halfway to the airport and back. I called BS and walked from my hotel Infiniti north to Sumi Hotel. Then east and then south to Travel Hotel and asked hotel prices there. I think it started at 700 k. Hell no. When I walked out the girl was standing there in the parking lot so I went to talk to her and the mamasan comes out behind a car and I walk off heading south and they finally left back to Lokasari. She followed me 450 m almost half a kilometer.

    Two days later I finished with a girl and we both left my hotel. I returned an hour later at 9 pm to the second floor. There are no hallways, just an open area with the rooms going around in a circle. 6 police standing around on the second floor. Pretty sure they were looking for me but I was alone. I went to my room and nothing was said to me. I asked one of the staff the next day why the police were there and they told me for inspection. Really inspection for what, that requires 6 guys, and at 9 pm? I told one of the mamasans about it in a text and she deleted our conversation and stopped replying. Talked to her the next day and she said it was for money. FYI next year a new law takes effect where you are not supposed to be in a hotel room if you are not married to the girl. Nobody knows yet how much of a pain in at $$ that will be. But the main thing is that it has to be reported by someone such as a family member or husband. So hotel staff, busybodies, jealous girlfriends do not count.

    I was sick and then afraid to go without a condom most the time. I found that roughly 30% wanted a condom (both street and Travel / Classic. I did not push the issue or try to offer more money. Some I could tell would not do it without using a condom just by their tone and mannerisms about it. I guy I met at my hotel breakfast was at Classic and we spoke for 15 minutes. He asked me if the girl I was just with required condom. Then a girl came to him to chat for 3 minutes and then left. He announced to his 2 buddies and myself is that the girl that just left him did not require a condom which he seemed excited about like it was rare. What I gathered from his question to me and his comment on the girl he had was that many girls require condoms.

    Sadly, there are 2 girls at Travel and 3 at Classic that will not repeat with me because I take too long to finish (roughly 25-30 minutes).

    Now I will mention the northern older area that I walked to. Main streets and crossed north-south and east-west through some of the residential areas.

    Crossing the streets is not easy. Lots of traffic. Many motorcycles on the sides of the road going the wrong way. At rush hour times they are on the very few sidewalks with you. They run through most stop lights. There are hardly any sidewalks. The ones that exist are narrow, deep holes, uneven paving stones, greasy from where they park their cooking stands at night, blocked with street sellers, and just plain horrible. My knees hurt sometimes because it is like walking a mile along a rocky beach or along a rocky trail. Think of it like this. If the map says 1. 0 mile then assume it is 1. 3 because of the slow difficulty in walking it. I love walking but hate walking here. The buildings are in horrible shape. The walk between Travel and Classic sucks. Not dangerous but sure feels like it.

    Most the restaurants are garbage. Most local restaurants I passed by I would look in and not eat there because the cleanliness level. I like to try street food and there was only one stand I would eat at because I could see what they had and I could tell that they ran out of food every night so the next night it was fresh. Best comparison to restaurants here is eating in the Philippines in a non-touristy city.

    Gajah Mada Plaza is an upscale mall but little in it but lots of "Coming Soon" signs. Go north to Mall Paragon and it is a joke. I tried the Indonesian food franchise someone recommended months ago. I tried two meals and both were just ok. When I left I went to the right side and looked at one of the posters and there were 2-3 dead roach bodies between the poster and the window. Just shells of the bodies meaning they have been there for months. Then further north to Glodok Chinatown Market. Very little in it. Then east to Pasar Pagi Mangga Dua and ITC Mangga Dua combined malls. One third was a regular like mall setting but all computer stuff. The other two thirds were like mini storage units. Lastly, Lokasari Square which had the best grocery store out of all of them at Hari Hari Grocery. Most of these malls were 25-30% empty. Most had grocery stores but they were small. Shopping in general was difficult because they do not carry as much as I am used to or simple out of stock. I had mites and wanted to get Ivermectin. I went to 7 Pharmacies and even Watsons did not have it. That is like a must have drug for a pharmacy. The doctor I got a shot from for STD was going to order it online. I point to the cheaper one and her and the office lady laughed because it was for cats / dogs. I had to explain that it was the same stuff. That is drug class 101. I would not want to get sick in this country.

    I stayed on the 7th floor for a few weeks and could finally see the smog. Look up when you are here and try to find blue sky or the outline of a cloud. Just all grey.

    Overall I liked the girls but the quality of life is for bottom feeders. Basically, you go get a girl, go to a nice place to eat (south side of the city) which will be easiest at one of their big malls all next to one another (Plaza Indonesia, Grand Indonesia West / East Mall), then back to a nice hotel. Most places you go you will take a taxi which is cheap but I prefer to walk, just not here. After 2 weeks it is deathly boring.

  2. #17766

    My Turn: Classic Spa

    Current as of last time I was there: May 8.

    Walk in the first entrance which is the main entrance. Walk to the back of the building before the hotel entrance and you will see the downstairs to the spa. Open 1 pm to 9 pm (or 10).

    They will hand you a list of 4 different massage options. Sorry but who gives a "F"! Get the elastic bracelet with the number on it and a key for your locker.

    The guy inside will take your shoes and give you sandals and a pair of swimming shorts. They have security video but if you want you can pay to leave your stuff in a safety box like you find in hotel rooms or keep it all with you.

    Enter the main room with low ceiling semi-dark, fake tree, and 8 female Romanesque statues. Sadly, one of the statues had her nipples touched up with new cement. Guys must have been tweaking her nipples hard. Very sad. There is a steam room, sauna, large hot tub (no bubbles), and a small very very cold dipping pool the size of 2 bathtubs. I went under 3 different times and jumped out ASAP. It could give you a heart attack. How cold does it feel? You go camping with a cooler and when you get home you put your hand in for 30 seconds and pull it out because it feels painful. That is how cold it is. It is 43 F /6 see. There is a floating thermometer in the water. I went twice and that is enough for me. The first time I went at 2:30 and there were 6 guys with 3 smoking. Next time 5 guys and 1 smoking. They have great venting but I hate smoking! 4-5 lounge chairs you can lay flat and 1 table 2 chairs.

    To enter the Bar / Girls Room you need to get a robe from the guy to enter (no cost). There is the front row of 5-7 girls (410 k) and the back row of 5-7 girls (600 k) both rows for the nasty deed. Same type room as the 3rd floor. Do not pay the mama first like 3rd floor.

    When you leave and you did the deed with the 410 k girl you pay 410 k at the front counter entrance for her and the use of the facilities (included in price). Same for 600 k girl. If you take no girl you pay 120 k for the use of the sauna, steam, hot pool, cool pool.

  3. #17765
    Quote Originally Posted by JuneFly  [View Original Post]
    Yes, the spa is at B1 lower level. You walk in, there is a front desk. You are given a menu, massage for 375 k and massage and sauna for 500 k plus cost of drinks / food you consume. I just got the massage without sauna or drinks, there is no pressure to get anything extra if you didn't want it. In case you decide to walk away without getting a massage, you pay the minimum facility fee 150 k. HJ offered for extra. All paid at the end. When you enter, you are given a wardrobe for you to change and locker where you can store your belongings. The massage itself is good, warms you up before going to Terminal lounge.
    Sounds good, thanks!

  4. #17764
    Quote Originally Posted by AddictedToWomen  [View Original Post]
    Classic has a lounge and spa separately, is that correct? Is there a report somewhere which says how the spa works? (Seen plenty for the lounge!
    Yes, the spa is at B1 lower level. You walk in, there is a front desk. You are given a menu, massage for 375 k and massage and sauna for 500 k plus cost of drinks / food you consume. I just got the massage without sauna or drinks, there is no pressure to get anything extra if you didn't want it. In case you decide to walk away without getting a massage, you pay the minimum facility fee 150 k. HJ offered for extra. All paid at the end. When you enter, you are given a wardrobe for you to change and locker where you can store your belongings. The massage itself is good, warms you up before going to Terminal lounge.

  5. #17763
    Classic has a lounge and spa separately, is that correct? Is there a report somewhere which says how the spa works? (Seen plenty for the lounge!

  6. #17762
    Quote Originally Posted by GaijinGigolo  [View Original Post]
    So you're a ******* for helping you neighbor scam some guy in another country.

    Maybe the dude just likes a particular type? Nothing wrong with preferring girls who look Japanese.

    Why did you want a black girl in Colombia? Why didn't you just go to Africa instead?

    What a punk.
    WTF? We have all tried to help other guys, even guys we grew up with. We tell them what to do and not what to do. What do they do? They do exactly 100% what their little head tells them. Even if I knew the guy and he was my bestie and told him what was happening he would most likely take her side. You just have to stand by and watch the train wreck. There is little you can do to change the outcome. I do not know any of you and could not care less if you got burned by the fire you were playing with. We all tried to be Captain Save A Ho and 90% of us wasted our time and money. This entire site is to help others and yet so many guys do not even RTFF so why feel sorry for them? Sounds like you got taken before by a girl GG. My story must have hit a personal nerve with you. Yes, I would do it again because she will just get another to take the silly pictures. What I would not do is personally tell the guy in person, text, email that she is a "good girl". I will not lie for anybody.

    The chance of finding a Japanese girl working here is slim to none because I am sorry but the quality of life here in Jakarta is dog crap (the food, sidewalks, traffic, smog, shopping). If a Japanese girl is trying to make money she will move across or up, not down. Doubtful she is looking for a husband here in Indonesia either. Hope BB finds her and checks her passport. He will get a much lower discount than in Japan for the same girl.

    I went to Colombia for sexy women. Sexy is sexy. I would have wanted her if she was purple (better yet Hot Pink). Her pix were hot so I wanted her. Simple as that. I think she worked there in the past and they just kept her pix on the website for bait and switch purposes. The flight cost to Africa versus Colombia is 3 times faster and cheaper. If I wanted to hunt blacks only I would go to the Dominican Republic, an even shorter and cheaper flight than Colombia.

    Classic. They supply the room, towels, and condom in the price. I looked at the room and it was just like their pix off their website and off of Agoda or Booking. The room was just too dark. Not sure if the room was clean or not and maybe had mosquitoes. The room was depressing because of the poor lighting and dark wood colors. Maybe try for 2 days and move on.

  7. #17761
    Quote Originally Posted by SexySlideGuy  [View Original Post]
    When you get these bargirls at the Classic, do you go to a room they have or do you need to be staying at this hotel and thus go to your own room? I am booking hotel now and need to know if I must stay here to hook up with the ladies in the bar or not. First time in Jakarta for me so not sure the process of hiring / taking bar girls compared to BKK, etc.

    Thank you! Great review!
    Rooms are included for the price.

  8. #17760

    Right

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    I said that I'm going to check her out because I don't believe there is a Japanese girl working in Jakarta. I don't need to see Japanese girls per se but if I can find a young hot Japanese girl in Jakarta for 10-20% of the price in Japan then why not. Call me crazy but I like to save money too. Maybe it's just me but I don't like places that trick guys and say a girl is something she is not. There's a lot of down time in Jakarta, my hotel is minutes away from Emporivm so I figured why not check it out. Sure wish the Emporivm gogo style bar was still there.
    Agreed. I hate being misled or being treated like I'm an ignorant newcomer as well. And of course there's nothing wrong with looking for something a bit different than all the rest wherever you're currently camped out.

  9. #17759

    Snark

    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere  [View Original Post]
    Philippine bar girls get tons of guys to barfine them and their friend by saying the simple phrase, "She is my sister".

    So many fools believe the girls that say they are college students and thus "good girls" from Instagram, Cupid, etc. My apartment neighbor in the Philippines had a Japanese fool sending her money for school which she never went to. She kept working in the bar. But she has the pictures to prove it. She borrowed her friend or cousins school uniform with backpack and even held a book in her hand when I took a bunch of pictures for her to send to him.

    My buddy likes his girls a little bit younger and I like a little bit older so the street mamasan tells my buddy the 20 year old is 18 and then tells me the same girl is 23.

    The most F-ed up one they ever tried on me was in Colombia. I went to a house of girls looking for this black girl. They brought out this clearly Latina girl with no black qualities what so ever telling me this was the one. I would have taken one of the other girls there but I was so pissed that I did not want to reward them with my business after that. I walked 5 streets over to another house and did the deed there instead with a different girl.

    BB. This is why I question some of your posts. You act like you are new to the game or just do not understand it. You say you have been to Japan many times so why would you be so excited to go after this supposedly Japanese girl since you have had so many before? If you are so interested in Japanese girls just take a refresher trip back to Japan.
    So you're a ******* for helping you neighbor scam some guy in another country.

    Maybe the dude just likes a particular type? Nothing wrong with preferring girls who look Japanese.

    Why did you want a black girl in Colombia? Why didn't you just go to Africa instead?

    What a punk.

  10. #17758

    Acknowledgement to Super Love

    Super Love's Reviews and guidance helped a lot too. Thank You Brother! Have a great trip ahead!

    Quote Originally Posted by Batman2024  [View Original Post]
    Yes. It did. Thank you all!

  11. #17757

    Included!

    Room for short time is included in the price you pay (360 K for 1 and 500 K for 2 girls).

    Quote Originally Posted by SexySlideGuy  [View Original Post]
    When you get these bargirls at the Classic, do you go to a room they have or do you need to be staying at this hotel and thus go to your own room? I am booking hotel now and need to know if I must stay here to hook up with the ladies in the bar or not. First time in Jakarta for me so not sure the process of hiring / taking bar girls compared to BKK, etc.

    Thank you! Great review!

  12. #17756

    Room At Classic or Elsewhere?

    Quote Originally Posted by Batman2024  [View Original Post]
    First Trip to Jakarta.



    Day 1.

    Went to the Classic at 5 pm. There were 80 odd girls and picked 2 girls for 500 k and yes, mamasan were aggressive and I took time to select the girls. First looked too young to be there and second, a little older. As many advised connection was lacking while choosing 2 girls, first one kept licking my nipples and said she can't do deep throat but second was doing it. Both girls don't suck at the same time and had to wash it off with listerine before switching which is a big turn-off. First was not into sucking and so asked her to come on top and ended up releasing in that position, we cleaned and had bit of chit chat with translator and second was very good with BBBJ and I unloaded in her mouth and she took it completely. Rinse again and tipped both 100 k each and paid the drinks bill in the counter while going out. The total spend was 700 k for girls incl tip and 400 k for drinks for me and the girls.
    When you get these bargirls at the Classic, do you go to a room they have or do you need to be staying at this hotel and thus go to your own room? I am booking hotel now and need to know if I must stay here to hook up with the ladies in the bar or not. First time in Jakarta for me so not sure the process of hiring / taking bar girls compared to BKK, etc.

    Thank you! Great review!

  13. #17755
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere  [View Original Post]
    BB. This is why I question some of your posts. You act like you are new to the game or just do not understand it. You say you have been to Japan many times so why would you be so excited to go after this supposedly Japanese girl since you have had so many before? If you are so interested in Japanese girls just take a refresher trip back to Japan.
    I said that I'm going to check her out because I don't believe there is a Japanese girl working in Jakarta. I don't need to see Japanese girls per se but if I can find a young hot Japanese girl in Jakarta for 10-20% of the price in Japan then why not. Call me crazy but I like to save money too. Maybe it's just me but I don't like places that trick guys and say a girl is something she is not. There's a lot of down time in Jakarta, my hotel is minutes away from Emporivm so I figured why not check it out. Sure wish the Emporivm gogo style bar was still there.

  14. #17754
    Quote Originally Posted by Goferring  [View Original Post]
    Of course, if being "foreign" put her in a higher price bracket, then that would sway the discussion too.
    Philippine bar girls get tons of guys to barfine them and their friend by saying the simple phrase, "She is my sister".

    So many fools believe the girls that say they are college students and thus "good girls" from Instagram, Cupid, etc. My apartment neighbor in the Philippines had a Japanese fool sending her money for school which she never went to. She kept working in the bar. But she has the pictures to prove it. She borrowed her friend or cousins school uniform with backpack and even held a book in her hand when I took a bunch of pictures for her to send to him.

    My buddy likes his girls a little bit younger and I like a little bit older so the street mamasan tells my buddy the 20 year old is 18 and then tells me the same girl is 23.

    The most F-ed up one they ever tried on me was in Colombia. I went to a house of girls looking for this black girl. They brought out this clearly Latina girl with no black qualities what so ever telling me this was the one. I would have taken one of the other girls there but I was so pissed that I did not want to reward them with my business after that. I walked 5 streets over to another house and did the deed there instead with a different girl.

    BB. This is why I question some of your posts. You act like you are new to the game or just do not understand it. You say you have been to Japan many times so why would you be so excited to go after this supposedly Japanese girl since you have had so many before? If you are so interested in Japanese girls just take a refresher trip back to Japan.

  15. #17753
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    ..Any chance you were able to confirm she's Japanese more than her saying she's Japanese?....
    If you ask an Indo girl where she's from its very common for her to reply her ethnicity rather than where she lives. She may have lived her whole life in Jakarta but if some of her ancestors were Japanese she might say that she is Japanese too.

    Of course, if being "foreign" put her in a higher price bracket, then that would sway the discussion too.

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