Jakarta

[JimThom]

It was a mediocre trip to Indonesia this time, but I have to admit probably due mostly to my resistance to getting with the times and engaging with social media.

After being disappointed that the spa at Orchardz Bandara was closed, a staff member at the hotel actually offered to send a massage girl to my room. That's usually a pretty decent option since if the girl is no good it's no good for everyone. But she got to my door and I was like WTF? I decided to let her do her thing but with a mid-30's face 5, body 3 (fat, kids) and service 5 (gave FS but not great), it was a total ripoff for 1 million for the girl and 200 k for the staff member.

Disgusted with the whole scene, I took off for Lake Toba to just get some relaxation time in and forget my anger at the paucity of the post-covid scene in Jakarta. By sheer chance hooked up for a few days with a mid-40's Danish MILF who was looking to blow off some steam after a nasty divorce. Good times for sure but definitely not a long-term strategy heading to legit places and hoping to hook up.

Back to Orchardz and had WeChat girl over who hit me up on the nearby function. Again, one of the reasons I'm not excited about social media. Can't view the goods beforehand. She sent current pics before that were accurate but concealed deficits under deceptive clothing. Face 6, body 4 (fat, had a kidwould have been a 3 had she not been early 20's), service 6. Managed to get off, but again not a great experience compared to the former smokin' hot repertoire at the Orchardz spa and the cute enthusiasm of FM1 girls. 800 k FS plus 100 k "taxi. ".

For a finale, had a memorable tryst (for both the right and wrong) reasons with a mid-thirties Indo Cupid woman. When she showed up at my door, turned out her profile pic was 10 years old and 20 kg skinnier. She immediately knew I was not happy but said she was super horny and really wanted it. Well, that part was right. Spent 4 days with her. Face 5, body 4 (fat, no kids at least), but horniness level 11. Insatiable. Moaning, screaming, shuddering DATY orgasms, eager CIM. She just couldn't get enough. But in the end, there was another number to contend with. Drama queen factor: 10. On my last day when I told her no we were not going to get married and move in next door to her parents she exploded not into one of her usual orgasms but a fit of rage. Had to deal with that before I finally got her out the door.

My experience this time was that Indonesia is a sad skeleton of its pre-covid glory but I'm going to try to follow the advice of some here and get into modern times with social media to make my next trip better.

[ABCinLA]

First trip back since I left on March 2020. As I flew over from Narita using ANA I did get a text from them starting a negative PCR test was required to enter Japan. Consequently I obtained one but found out later at the airport it was required only for those actually entering Japan versus those transiting. Entering Jakarta was very trying due to the lines; however, only passport, a vaccine card and boarding pass were required for inspection. I say be prepared for being on your feet for two hours continuously. Of course increase traffic with no much staff additions had a big impact. For my first few days I'll say Kota Indah is jumping with a total of seven girlie bars with minimum pricing now at 400 K. One newer bar on the other side of the you shape alleys wanted 750 K. The Kimochi Mabes near Sparks hotel is still open with the normal amount of providers and I was told by them the #33 Rebecca is now married and retired. The other Kimochi near Hotel 88 #120 is closed. Travel Hotel was also very lively especially in the front; however the back area seems to have only one group. Anyway they did have semi nude dancers which I don't remember from 2020. Still adjusting to the time differential.

[Menteng]

Pretty much everywhere around Mangga Besar, also outside Classic Hotel there's a cluster, they usually set up after about 5 pm. The "Semut Afrika" pills are useful too and a lot cheaper.

Thanks for the info. Meanwhile somebody told me that he saw a Pil Biru sign at jl. Tendean, at the opposite of the Pertamina gas station. Will go there first, because I stay in JakSel.

[Hilo77]

Have been looking for them Haven't seen the Pil Biru signs, yet. Probably Covid has also effected their presence. I haven't been to the Glodok area, though.

Share the name of the road or some locations, please.

Pretty much everywhere around Mangga Besar, also outside Classic Hotel there's a cluster, they usually set up after about 5 pm. The "Semut Afrika" pills are useful too and a lot cheaper.

[Menteng]

Just buy the knock-off stuff off the guys with the little stalls along the side of the road. A bottle of 10 for 100 k, doe the job perfectly.

Have been looking for them Haven't seen the Pil Biru signs, yet. Probably Covid has also effected their presence. I haven't been to the Glodok area, though.

Share the name of the road or some locations, please.

[Hilo77]

Just buy the knock-off stuff off the guys with the little stalls along the side of the road. A bottle of 10 for 100 k, doe the job perfectly.

[Menteng]

250k for a single dose isn't cheap either.

It isn't a bargain, but you don't need a presription (expenses!) and it is still about 6 euros cheaper than where I live, in Spain.

[BenderOver]

Obviously you didn't bother to check the reason I mentioned it (see report #16119). Or, you think you're funny.

Thanks for referring to the previous post. I didn't connect that you were still referring to that particular mall and that UG specified the level of that mall.

I was searching Jakarta maps looking for a mall or a reference to a shopping center that was called "UG" like in "UG Mall" and forgot that UG is a floor level in that country.

250k for a single dose isn't cheap either.

[Menteng]

Trying to figure out where UG North lobb is. .

Obviously you didn't bother to check the reason I mentioned it (see report #16119). Or, you think you're funny.

[BenderOver]

I live in Spain and a strip of 4 costs 81 euros. I'm talking original, not generic. You want generic and cheaper? Try Kamagra online, Generic Viagra, Cialis, Levitra etc.

BTW, Kimia Farma is on UG North lobb.

Willing to try the generics. Can't get it here in the states because we're tracking all pharmalogical history and purchases now. Stupid.

Trying to figure out where UG North lobb is. .

[Goferring]

Pre Covid experience. Almost all of them offer HJ and FS. BJ might depend on the therapist.

If the spa name has "family" or "day spa", it might not. The reviews will also mention that it is "family friendly".

If the names have pantai pijat or kebugaran in the title then it's a dead cert for extras. Some of these also include a passable massage but unfortunately, many are just a perfunctory 5 minute rub down.

[Gern]

I know it has been a few days since you wrote, but wondering if you have discovered what you are looking for. If you are still around, and want a bit of local knowledge, please feel free to PM me.

After over two years, I finally got back to the Philippines and Indonesia. But they have been eviscerated by the pandemic. All of my favorite places gone. I've just been traveling around in a state of permanent piss offedness. A short stop in Manila on the way to Jakarta saw the amazing Air Force One / Flight 168 gutted and slated for demolition. I wrote about it in the Manila forum. A decent fallback was the 1764 and. Garcia full service massage place. Shuttered. The Manila scene has really taken a hit.

Jakarta has been no exception in my first couple days here. Pre-pandemic, I would get a room at Orchardz Bandara and hit the amazing and super hot talent there for like three weeks. Never needed to go anywhere else after I discovered it. Just checked in a couple days ago, though, and the spa is shuttered. It's a conference room now. Seriously? No on-site action at all. (I had RTFF and someone said both Orchardz spas were closed, but I did some crazy self-deception that since there are like 5 Orchardz around town, maybe Bandara would still be going. Nice use of my brain.) Before I discovered Orchardz, I would get an Airbnb near the Central Park Mall and walk 15 minutes to FM1. That was great, too. Cute, enthusiastic girls 350 k short time plus 200 k tip. Last went there in July 2016 I think. I didn't actually go there this time because Google Maps says "permanently closed. " More post-pandemic anger brewing.

In-call places like that are just the best for me. No fooling around with bars, traffic jams, lady drinks, walks of shame, dating site / app hassles wasting time sifting out lady boys, hard core pros, girls radically different in in-person appearance than online persona, etc. Just in to view the goods in person, hit the action, and out. And the rest of my day was mine for restaurants, cafes, walks in parks like the one near the zoo, etc. Now that all my favorites are shut down, I'm not happy. I've never been to Classic or Travel or Malioboro. Could be time to check them out.

But what I'the really like is to find an Orchardz substitute. Hotel with on-site action at the spa or action in the comfort of my own room just a phone call away. My next preferred option would be a walk-in fish-bowl spa that's not a bar, like the old Orchardz. One member provided a map. There are a few places there but not always with extensive detail and reviews from experience. But I'm having a look. Also, I've actually never accepted the offers of motorbike taxi or regular taxi drivers who asked did I "want woman. " I had Orchardz and FM1 and I didn't need to hassle with dealing with tipping them, wondering if the girl going to be worth it and so on. I wonder what other people's experiences have been with that. I've tried to RTFF back to 2018 or so, but there's a lot there, and probably a lot that doesn't apply post-pandemic.

[Hilo77]

how do I know if I'm getting a veggie or if I'll have add-ONS?

Ask her.

She's a masseuse, it won't be her first rodeo, she'll have been asked the same question a thousand times before.

[Gonz0]

Tried 2 spas near my hotel in Mangga Besar.

1. Zaigon Spa and Lounge.

Jalan Taman Sari. You can find the roster and pictures of their girls on one of their instagram accounts ayoke_z. Some info on Kaskus. I sent whatsapp messages to 2 of the mobile numbers provided, but got no reply. I went there anyway, and when I asked why no response to my messages, they said it was a day off for those two. Staff were welcoming. They sat me down and explained the available services and prices. I took the 700 k option which includes massage, B2 be, BJ, FJ. There is also a 550 k option without B2 be or BJ. Chose girl 29 - young, slim, minimal English. OK massage, great service.

2. Sugar Spa and Lounge.

Jalan Labu. Couldn't find pics of the girls online. Some info on Kaskus. Staff also welcoming and explained the service and prices. Took the 600 k option. Massage, BJ, FJ. There was an 800 k option with nuru. Had to choose from pictures on a tablet. Chose Michelle. Very young, slim, minimal English. Bit of an odd session. Really slow to get ready, long shower together, then longer shower on her own. Once we started however it was a mad rush. Stopped her and asked if she was ok. She said everything was ok, and the session continued at a calmer pace. I think she was having a bad day.

The prices were all in and none of the girls asked for a tip.

[Mgp23]

What about Hotel massages, how do I know if I'm getting a veggie or if I'll have add-ONS?

Pre Covid experience. Almost all of them offer HJ and FS. BJ might depend on the therapist.

If the spa name has "family" or "day spa", it might not. The reviews will also mention that it is "family friendly".