Jakarta

[Adindas]

Awww thanks. Good to know. The place looked so dodgy. I wasn t sure if they were going to rob me or anything though. Not sure if it was the train track place as well.

Those who are still interested in finding the holy Grail Train Track.

Just Google it "Gang Royal Rawa Bebek Penjaringan" there are a lot of information about it. You could also search on You tube there are reasonable number of video clips about this RLD.
This is one example from YT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l24bmfsKXI
The government have been trying to close this place multiple times but it still exist for obvious reason. Just closing RLD will not solve the problem.
As other people say, it is not suggestible for those who come to Jakarta for the first time. But this place is cheap and relatively good looking young girls, You might get short term for 120 k rupiahs or even less. If you ask taxi motor bike, Gojek Or Grab around that areas, most of them know exactly where this place is. Just be aware the area around Penjaringan is not considered safe.

[BenderOver]

Not much discussion about Hermess spa, Sumo, MTR2 ,D'Heaven, Blitz and My Place.Coming to Jakarta In February second week after covid break. So curious about the eastern side not properly explored early.Informations will highly be appreciated.

I already reviewed Blitz in Kelapa Gading. Not recommended. Lots of way better places to go for similar price.

[Offshore Swell]

I know the sex outside of marriage law has been passed, but not implemented. I'm wondering if there is any news on when it might be implemented. I have a trip planned in April, and definitely don't want to risk spending a year in prison for a night at Classic. I know someone has to file a complaint about it, but it would be unnerving not knowing for sure.

This may at some stage in the future become a standard RTTF question along with are Jakarta hotels girl friendly and are bluebird taxi's blue? OS would counsel to do your own research. The proposed new law has been discussed ad nauseum here and not so long ago.

In Indonesia you can end up in jail for any number of reasons. What you should keep in mind is that in Indonesia law enforcement is primarily a business. The public service component is some way down the list of priorities for many and so you may find yourself in trouble for crossing the street if your stars are unlucky. Your risk of being banged up for this kind of thing will increase around mealtimes.

OS would suggest to embrace the risk, cross the street, fart loudly in reception, enjoy yourself, be polite and be confident and follow the cues of the other 30 million people around you. If you were desirous of a less risk free approach, Cross the road only at afternoon tea time while your adversaries are sleeping.

Hope that helps.

OS.

[Kopi Hitam]

Checked out the railway track scene night. For context, I'm a Westerner, long term Jakarta resident, first time slumdog.

I decided to arrive at 6 pm, allowing for some fading daylight and negating the risk of being caught in a raid.

It was certainly a unique cultural experience.

It was relatively quiet around this time, yet still plenty on offer. The dark alley runs for about 300 m and is fully enclosed. The stretches of dim purple lighting gave it somewhat of a theme parked haunted house feeling. It was quite good fun.

Chatting with the ladies, I gathered some more intel. Official start time for the ladies and cafes is 8 pm. Although they were able to scrounge around and find me a beer at 6 pm. 8 pm is also when the music kicks off. So if you also enjoy some peace and quiet, arrive before 8 pm.

The police raid which occurred recently was only to catch women without a KTP. Police now don't enter the alley and are paid off outside. Room time is 30 min, although you probably wouldn't want much longer than that given the state of the rooms. Apparently the women only see 4 to 5 Westerners per week. Although lots more from Taiwan, Singapore etc.

Regarding safety, I never felt in any danger. Like any place, being respectful to all and not obnoxiously drunk certainly helps. As does speaking Indonesian.

I would like to go back again around 11 pm to assess the scene from a different time of night.

It's not a place at which I'd regularly frequent but a unique option to take a friend who has already experienced the seedier sides of Asia and is wanting to drop a couple of rungs lower.

[SeaTraveler]

My good friend, Juliana, is looking for a "date". Has had some job issues and needs the extra cash. Excellent in bed with me.

Please PM me. I had issues in the past with recommendations so only Senior members with a good track record will be answered.

SEA Traveler.

[GoFourIt]

I know the sex outside of marriage law has been passed, but not implemented. I'm wondering if there is any news on when it might be implemented. I have a trip planned in April, and definitely don't want to risk spending a year in prison for a night at Classic. I know someone has to file a complaint about it, but it would be unnerving not knowing for sure.

[Thampi62]

Not much discussion about Hermess spa, Sumo, MTR2 ,D’'Heaven, Blitz and My Place.Coming to Jakarta In February second week after covid break. So curious about the eastern side not properly explored early.Informations will highly be appreciated.

[Hilo77]

Gentlemen, perhaps we could take this fascinating discussion to either the "General Information" or "Other Areas" threads, where it more properly belongs.

[BenderOver]

If I am going alone I will certainly test Sarkem area. Staying I will stay at Sheraton mustika. It should not be bad taking a taxi there. I will ask bellboys etc if there are options. I am communicating with couple of girls in Jakarta to see if they will come with me. They said they are working. Normal girls in Jakarta are not as money hungry as other places it seems.

Prambanan is open. The temples themselves are smaller than Boro so I'm not even sure you can "enter" them. But you can walk into the grand grounds where all of the temples are for Prambanan. Turn on "panorama" mode on your phone because the site is so big, you can't capture the landscape in any regular manner. It's really pretty amazing and a nice trip, though very warm.

Finding a bluebird or a grab at Sheraton is easy. You just need to wait about 7 to 10 minutes for them to get there. Use the app to call either bluebird or grab ahead of time before you get to the lobby from your room.

If you bring an Indonesian girl to these sites, they can buy the tickets to get in MUCH cheaper than a foreigner can. Their KTP gets access to the extremely discounted Indonesian citizen rate. If your date buys two tickets, they won't check for your KTP at the ticket punching gate if you behave correctly. (Don't act like a tourist!

[Sammon]

The other sights and temples are still open as normal? Prambanan, water palace etc. For hotel, Sheraton Mustika is nice with good views, but out of town. I'd stay somewhere closer to Sarkem. (Pasar Kembang, close to Malioboro and train station, a lokalisasi with plenty of girls, ST only about 300 k. Tourist price). Melia Purosani has Sarkem in walking distance (about a 1 km) and it has nice Balinese style gardens where you can sit at the pool with satays and beer Bintang.

If I am going alone I will certainly test Sarkem area. Staying I will stay at Sheraton mustika. It should not be bad taking a taxi there. I will ask bellboys etc if there are options. I am communicating with couple of girls in Jakarta to see if they will come with me. They said they are working. Normal girls in Jakarta are not as money hungry as other places it seems.

[Tommy Suharto]

I was reading the latest news today about Borobudur. Since covid it is forbidden to climb the temple. Visitors are only allowed at the base. Now there is a plan to charge extra $100 to climb to the top of the monument. Not sure when that will happen. It is just $25 to enter which before covid people can go wherever they want. News is many areas are cordoned off for renovations. Sunrise tours are not there. If they are there they take you to a nearest high point to watch which really does not captivate the moment. Many visitors commented that tours are worthless. Even like you said Mt. Merapi is seen from faraway. There are volcanoes near Jakarta where they take you to the edge and brave workers haul sulphur blocks up the slope. In Costa Rica nice volcanoes. Japan Mt. Fuji trek is magnifisant although extremely cold.

As for the hotel I heard Marriott has been upgrading the hotel. Taxis or Uber to the town must be fairly cheap. For me a good breakfast and dinner should be good enough with some snacks in between. I would definitely talk to the desk clerk to arrange transportation. Also get massage. On the way back I am going to Philippines and have arranged girls in Manila and cebu. So if I do not find the right girl will enjoy solo trip to Yogyakarta. Will definitely have some fun in Jakarta.

The other sights and temples are still open as normal? Prambanan, water palace etc. For hotel, Sheraton Mustika is nice with good views, but out of town. I'd stay somewhere closer to Sarkem. (Pasar Kembang, close to Malioboro and train station, a lokalisasi with plenty of girls, ST only about 300 k. Tourist price). Melia Purosani has Sarkem in walking distance (about a 1 km) and it has nice Balinese style gardens where you can sit at the pool with satays and beer Bintang.

[Sammon]

The Sheraton Mustika is a huge resort, but it's rather, uh, run down a little. Let's just call it rustic. The Marriott connected to the mall is modern. The mall is modern. So to give you perspective, when it was lunch or dinner time, I had to bluebird to the mall to eat at a reasonably nice restaurant.

Sheraton has breakfast buffet that's pretty good. Not sure the lounge is actually open. When I went there 3 months ago, the lounge looked like it was permanently closed (thank Marriott International for that good gesture move) as the room was completely devoid of furniture and the lounge looked like a half empty store room. But they made up for it by comping breakfast for two at the restaurant. I got a couple of massages at the Sheraton Spa and when I tried to stroke the young masseuse's ass, she put my hand back next to my side. There's no hanky panky at that spa. The closest action is in the middle of Yogyakarta and it's a good 10 to 15 minutes away from the Sheraton. (the Marriott is closer to the action).

Blue Bird is the regular taxi.

Silver Bird is the black upgraded premium version of a "taxi". In USA It's called Uber Black.

Golden Bird is the private driver version. Kind of like an uber regular. The set up is a flat day rate, so I think you should negotiate how much it costs with the hotel front desk before booking. I don't remember if there was a partial day rate. I just booked for the entire day, because I never seen a volcano up close before (it actually wasn't even that close, the hot zone was probably half a mile away).
Sunrise tour pickup is at 3 AM, so not sure if it's hate getting up early or just not getting to sleep at all the night before.

I was reading the latest news today about Borobudur. Since covid it is forbidden to climb the temple. Visitors are only allowed at the base. Now there is a plan to charge extra $100 to climb to the top of the monument. Not sure when that will happen. It is just $25 to enter which before covid people can go wherever they want. News is many areas are cordoned off for renovations. Sunrise tours are not there. If they are there they take you to a nearest high point to watch which really does not captivate the moment. Many visitors commented that tours are worthless. Even like you said Mt. Merapi is seen from faraway. There are volcanoes near Jakarta where they take you to the edge and brave workers haul sulphur blocks up the slope. In Costa Rica nice volcanoes. Japan Mt. Fuji trek is magnifisant although extremely cold.

As for the hotel I heard Marriott has been upgrading the hotel. Taxis or Uber to the town must be fairly cheap. For me a good breakfast and dinner should be good enough with some snacks in between. I would definitely talk to the desk clerk to arrange transportation. Also get massage. On the way back I am going to Philippines and have arranged girls in Manila and cebu. So if I do not find the right girl will enjoy solo trip to Yogyakarta. Will definitely have some fun in Jakarta.

[BenderOver]

I have also booked Sheraton mustika with lounge access. I might still take a girl with me. If party of two it will be nice to rent a car and driver. If alone I might consider a tour. However I will not prebook. Many of these tours are capacity oriented, in other words if they're not enough people they tend to cancel without warning. If you think Marriott is better I can book that also.

What did you mean by silver / golden bird?

I have seen enough volcanoes all over the world including Indonesia. Mt. Merapi is not on my list to see. I just want to see Borobudur and Prambanan temple. Not particularly interested in sunrise tour having done it in Angkor what with a very pretty Cambodia girl. Nothing special about sunrise and I hate getting up early.

The Sheraton Mustika is a huge resort, but it's rather, uh, run down a little. Let's just call it rustic. The Marriott connected to the mall is modern. The mall is modern. So to give you perspective, when it was lunch or dinner time, I had to bluebird to the mall to eat at a reasonably nice restaurant.

Sheraton has breakfast buffet that's pretty good. Not sure the lounge is actually open. When I went there 3 months ago, the lounge looked like it was permanently closed (thank Marriott International for that good gesture move) as the room was completely devoid of furniture and the lounge looked like a half empty store room. But they made up for it by comping breakfast for two at the restaurant. I got a couple of massages at the Sheraton Spa and when I tried to stroke the young masseuse's ass, she put my hand back next to my side. There's no hanky panky at that spa. The closest action is in the middle of Yogyakarta and it's a good 10 to 15 minutes away from the Sheraton. (the Marriott is closer to the action).

Blue Bird is the regular taxi.

Silver Bird is the black upgraded premium version of a "taxi". In USA It's called Uber Black.

Golden Bird is the private driver version. Kind of like an uber regular. The set up is a flat day rate, so I think you should negotiate how much it costs with the hotel front desk before booking. I don't remember if there was a partial day rate. I just booked for the entire day, because I never seen a volcano up close before (it actually wasn't even that close, the hot zone was probably half a mile away).

Sunrise tour pickup is at 3 AM, so not sure if it's hate getting up early or just not getting to sleep at all the night before.

[Sammon]

My recommendation is not to pre-book any Temple / Volcano tours. Looks reasonably priced, but if you get to your hotel, more than likely you'll be able to work out a better rate and have a great time. I was staying at the Sheraton Mustika and while it's an older hotel, it's not too bad. I do like the Marriott connected to the mall but that was twice the price. The Sheraton front desk was able to hook me up with the Sheraton price of a silver / golden bird all day for 1 M and I got to put it on the roomcharge for points. Morning view of Boro, then over to the temple site. (Can't do sunrise at the temple for now and can't go into the temple due to pandemic and renovation measures). The temple is not closed, but if you there too early, it'll look like it's closed. Went to the other temple mentioned too, it's a common route to hit both temples. Then Mt. Merapi the volcano. The driver will set up some off road adventure for you, depending on how much you pay, it's about an hour tour and it's fun enough. You pay for all of the entry tickets out of pocket this way, and even in the end when you add everything all up, you're still saving quite a bit of money (I did with a party of 2, not sure you'll save that much party of 1).

Yogyakarta is also called Jogja. The airport is not in the city anymore. It's referenced as New Yogyakarta international airport. It's about an hour southwest from downtown. The tour of the 3 spots will likely be about 2. 5 hours drive time total. Add 1. 5 hours for viewing from nearby hillside of Boro, add 1 hour for Boro, add 1 hour for Pramba, add 1. 5 to 2 hours for Merapi. The driver will stop for lunch at his favorite rated restaurant. You buy lunch, he gets it for free. Don't forget the driver tip at Mt. Merapi offroading and your silver / golden bird at the end of the day.

I have also booked Sheraton mustika with lounge access. I might still take a girl with me. If party of two it will be nice to rent a car and driver. If alone I might consider a tour. However I will not prebook. Many of these tours are capacity oriented, in other words if they're not enough people they tend to cancel without warning. If you think Marriott is better I can book that also.

What did you mean by silver / golden bird?

I have seen enough volcanoes all over the world including Indonesia. Mt. Merapi is not on my list to see. I just want to see Borobudur and Prambanan temple. Not particularly interested in sunrise tour having done it in Angkor what with a very pretty Cambodia girl. Nothing special about sunrise and I hate getting up early.

[HelloYou]

Hey thanks for all your answer guys.

My hotel is just nearby komplex so I can go daily until my flight at this Saturday 😸.

So yesterday I tried vfour hotel. Cost 400 for silver girl and 600 for gold. I took a silver one. She was very unenthusiastic. I thought she was about to cry when doing a blowjob and saw some drip out of dick. She didn t like BJ then did few position without much smile.

Didn't ask for tips though at the end and because I didn t drink it only cost me 400 k. So amongst the cheapest there. The room is dreadful though with damaged wall but humidity and I wouldn t sleep there in a hotel.

I also walked just past the happy bar. There was another one asking me whether I wanted to do karaoke with the girls. They said sing only. No sex. I was interested but was afraid of being scammed with overpriced drinks. And also they would sing in Indonesian so no way I could do anything.

Maybe some member here have experience with KTV here as I'm not sure I want to risk.

I also have load of matches from TanTan. Most of the girls are freelance and quote me between 1-2 M.

I told them every time I can go to komplex for 350 k and can pay up to 500 k for them to come and will cover travel cost. But none accepted.

Lowest I had as counter offer was 800 k. For 1 shot short term. I'm bit puzzled as why komplex / classic girls are so much cheaper. And on top of that the girls there have to pay the mamasan, pay the hotel, pay the room, the security. So I'm guessing out of the 350-400 they maybe get at most 250.

And yet, the online tantan girls refuse to move for less than 1 M. I can punt 2 x for that price!

They also say they never paid so little for a client and that the other girls are "mechat" girls who have sex all the time. And they are cleaner.

I'm a bit puzzled by this pricing dynamic. And in fact, it's possible to bring girls from Komplex to our hotel if I book long term. Was quoted 800 k-1. 2 M for 3 h. Not 1 shot short term Tantan girl say.

I guess I'll go to komplex / classic for the remaining days of my stay in Jakarta.