Jakarta

[Hihi Ster]

BATS is open, but not every day, I believe Wednesday till Saturday.

Supposedly the brothels in PenJ are open, haven't verified myself but will do so the next few days or so.

VOA is available in Jakarta now as well, limited nationalities so make sure you're on "the list".

[Zanny]

With all due respect, I don't think you guys have seen the latest press release from the Immigration department: https://www.imigrasi.go.id/en/2022/0...ia-bebas-visa/.

This new policy comes into effect on April 6, 2022 and accordingly, Circular Letter of the Director General of Immigration Number IMI-0532. GR. 01.01 of 2022 concerning Visit Visas on Special Arrivals for Tourism in Order to Support Sustainable Tourism in Bali During the 2019 Corona Virus Disease Pandemic and Circular Letter of the Director General of Immigration Number IMI-0533. GR. 01.01 of 2022 concerning Immigration Ease in Supporting Sustainable Tourism in the Batam and Bintan Areas During the Corona Virus Disease 2019 Pandemic is revoked and declared invalid.

"For now, there are seven airports, eight ports and four Cross-Border Posts designated as entry points for BVKKW / VKSKKW subjects. They cannot enter through another TPI if they want to use the facility. Different.

Immigration Checkpoints Designated as Entrances to BVKW and VKSKW Subject Countries.

TPI Airport:

Soekarno Hatta in DKI Jakarta.

Ngurah Rai in Bali.

Kualanamu in North Sumatra.

Juanda in East Java.

Hasanuddin in South Sulawesi.

Sam Ratulangi in North Sulawesi, and.

Yogyakarta in Yogyakarta.

[Goferring]

- VOA only applicable if you enter from Bali. To enter Jakarta, you need to apply for a visa.

If you're coming now, enter at Bali, wait the couple of hours for your negative PCR done on arrival, then fly domestic to Jakarta. No Quarantine, no hotel stays, no travel restrictions. Easy But remember you will have Ramadan to deal with when you get to Jakarta.

If you're coming later, just wait: restrictions are being wound back quickly now. By the time you want to come, the rules will have likely changed.

FWIW, I'm in Bali now. Dead quiet here for tourists but heaps of girls. Unfortunately 99% have the typical Bali attitudes and pricing.

Enjoy G.

[JamesXBrown]

This is the latest update, things may change by then.

- VOA only applicable if you enter from Bali. To enter Jakarta, you need to apply for a visa. To have an Indonesian visa, you need someone from Indonesia to initiate that sponsorship.

- If you have passports from any of the ASEAN countries, you can enter via Jakarta without visa.

- No more quarantine.

That is as far as I know to date. Plan accordingly.

As far as I understand it, once you've entered at Bali, you can go anywhere in the country without further impediment. An open jaw ticket is the way to go I guess, into Bali, out from Jakarta.

And starting in Bali is not such a biggie. It's a nice enough place to spend a few days before jumping on a cheap as chips flight to Jakarta (or even taking the train across Java, something I've been meaning to do for years).

[Ggekko2009]

Can someone confirm the visa on arrival rules just changed for Jakarta? I have been googling daily, and one article says the 43 nationalities that previously could enter via Bali can now enter via Jakarta CGK.

Have trip planned may 29 to June 7 and booked flight back to Australia from BKK but really want to monger first time in Jakarta on the way there.

This is the latest update, things may change by then.

- VOA only applicable if you enter from Bali. To enter Jakarta, you need to apply for a visa. To have an Indonesian visa, you need someone from Indonesia to initiate that sponsorship.

- If you have passports from any of the ASEAN countries, you can enter via Jakarta without visa.

- No more quarantine.

That is as far as I know to date. Plan accordingly.

[Zanny]

Can someone confirm the visa on arrival rules just changed for Jakarta? I have been googling daily, and one article says the 43 nationalities that previously could enter via Bali can now enter via Jakarta CGK.

Have trip planned may 29 to June 7 and booked flight back to Australia from BKK but really want to monger first time in Jakarta on the way there.

[Blanquiceleste]

Is there anyone on ground in Jakarta, to throw some light on the status of brothels like Classic, Travel and those around Kota Indah during this one month of Ramadan? I gather from recent reports that Kelapa Gading is closed and so is CJ / BATS. I hear Basque is open, but that place was less of a pick-up joint previously. The talent at CJs needs to put food on the table, and I am hoping they flock to places like Basque. There are also several other nightclubs that are popular with younger, more affluent civilians. But they might not be suitable for hobbying, unless you look like Brad Pitt and are loaded like Dan Bilzerian.

[Goferring]

I would not go to Jakarta in the month of Ramadan. Ramadan is slower than the rest of the year, and now everything is slower due to covid. The combination of Ramadan and covid regulations does not bode well for mongering IMHO.

If you are really timid, why go with an online dating service like Seeking? I would think it takes a more braveness and self-confidence to meet up with a girl you met there,

I'd agree that arriving in Jakarta in the middle of Ramadan may not be the ideal solution. Especially so for a timid first timer with no existing contacts or knowledge of where to go.

If United is locked into Jakarta during Ramadan, then I would use one of the less hardcore personals websites. Lots of semi civilian girls there are happy to play 'tourguide' with extras. It would be much easier to have a couple of these showing him around town, and the bedroom, than to find a solution for every new session.

If moving out of Jakarta is an option, then many girls are unreachable back at home but '000's also go in holiday to the places popular with Indos. Perhaps find a girl to show him around Bali, Jogjakarta etc. Lots to see and do there, girls will be more playful away from prying eyes at home, and there will be many girls there due to the cheap hotel and package prices currently being offered.

Enjoy. G.

[Cucumber]

Thanks for the great reports Cucumber. I will be in Jakarta in a few weeks and seek the good times. I think I will try my luck on Seeking (SA) as I am a bit of a timid monger and not sure how comfortable I will feel at some of these massage establishments.

But I will make sure to detail my experiences. I am interested to hear how Singers will treat you, as OT, Geylang and Brix are closed from what I heard.

I would not go to Jakarta in the month of Ramadan. Ramadan is slower than the rest of the year, and now everything is slower due to covid. The combination of Ramadan and covid regulations does not bode well for mongering IMHO.

If you are really timid, why go with an online dating service like Seeking? I would think it takes a more braveness and self-confidence to meet up with a girl you met there, as it is just the two of you and the onus is on you and her. If you go to one of the big establishments in Jakarta (Travel, Classic, Malioboro), it is just like going to a relaxed bar. Except that you don't have to chat up anybody whatsoever, the mamasans will take care of that (thoroughly). Hell, they'll match you up with a girl even if you are asleep. To me it seems like the perfect solution for a timid guy. Go to Classic at 4 pm and it won't be too loud, there won't be many guys and there will be a lot of girls available. The mamas will bring them to you one or two at a time. You have a look, maybe ask a few questions and then choose.

Here in Singapore I have a civilian girlfriend and she is rather possessive, so no mongering for me here in any case. The upside is that I save some money which I can spend when I am back in a cheaper mongering location. And unlike the Jakarta girls who hardly speak a word of English, I can have a proper conversation with her. After a week of trying to communicate through Google translate, it is kind of nice to be with someone I can both have sex with and talk with in a meaningful way.

[Banana Boi]

Thanks so much for the reports, Cucumber. Much appreciated.

Sad Kelapa Gading isn't up and running.

[United1]

Thanks for the great reports Cucumber. I will be in Jakarta in a few weeks and seek the good times. I think I will try my luck on Seeking (SA) as I am a bit of a timid monger and not sure how comfortable I will feel at some of these massage establishments.

But I will make sure to detail my experiences. I am interested to hear how Singers will treat you, as OT, Geylang and Brix are closed from what I heard.

At the moment Jakarta is not what it used to be. But I expect it to bounce back at some point.

[Ggekko2009]

I know that for some of the old-timers on the forum some of my info is stuff they know very well and that has been discussed on the forum before. But I am writing for everybody.

It has been a while since there has been any report on this since the pandemic, so you might actually one of the first to report on it.

One of the girls told me a lot about how things are organized. Classic, Travel, Malio, Kings Cross and Sumo all have the same owner. They live in dorms controlled by the club. 3-4 girls in each room with bunks. 56 girls in one house. I have seen videos of the inside, and they don't look too rough. Many girls come in on a contract, which means they get a loan and then have to work it off. If you pay 375 000 for an hour, the girl gets about 95 000 out of that. So she is living off the tips. Please bear that in mind and be generous. I tip heavily for good performance. Out of 20 girls, I may pay a tip of 1 million to the 1-2 best, 700 000 to a couple of them, 4-500 000 to many of them and 2-300 000 to the weaker performers. 0 tip is only if a girl really creates problems or something. Some people would probably say I overpay, but I don't think they respect the girls. I try to be nice, caring, and generous. I think it's the right thing to do in itself, it also gives some really nice interaction.

The girl also told me she used to make 10 million per month, now it is more like 5 million. There are much fewer customers and much fewer girls, everything is kind of quiet. She is very good with people, so I expect she earns more than many of the others. They have an antigen test every third day. Medical checkups every three months, including HIV test and full gynaecological examination she claimed, but I am not sure. As per ISG rules I am not permitted to write about my own observations concerning venereal diseases, so you are on your own there.

Glad to see that you are not one of those Cheap Charlies. Yeah, tip the girl well since they don't really earn much and a significant chunk on what you pay on the bill goes to the mafia. If you listen from the girls, they charge all sorts of expenses on these girls and one wonder how they would ever get away from their financial bondage.

People wear face masks a lot. Security guards at the entrances to buildings remind people to put them on before going in. Evenings are quiet. Streetside stalls selling nasi goreng still operate until midnight or a bit later, but most restaurants close very early. Kings Cross and Sumo are closed, I was told. CJs is also closed, not clear when they will open (I called them and checked). At the moment Jakarta is not what it used to be. But I expect it to bounce back at some point.

I reckon CJ might still be closed since many foreigners are still not able to go to Jakarta without going through all the hoops. Hope it bounces back soon as you said to pre-pandemic time. My only recourse is to use Seeking or SA to connect with those new freelancers should I visit Jakarta again this year.

[Cucumber]

I finally found the time to write up the impressions from the last days before I left Jakarta. Unfortunately I am already forgetting stuff, as some nice time with a freebie regular of mine here in Singapore erases other memories.

I know that for some of the old-timers on the forum some of my info is stuff they know very well and that has been discussed on the forum before. But I am writing for everybody.

In the last days I revisited Classic, Travel and Malioboro. Confirmed the impressions I have already provided here on the forum. If you are willing to trawl through some girls, you can find gems at both Classic and Travel. It is also important not to let the mamasans steer you too much. They are pushy, but you take the decisions.

Some girls are willing to meet up in their spare time. They often ask for a lot of money for that, like 2 million for a night, but quickly come down.

Malioboro is a notch up from Classic and Travel. If you go to the club part (further away from the street), enter, go up to the mezzanine overlooking the dancers and stand there a bit, groups of girls will start approaching you, flirting for lady drinks. They are dancers waiting for their turn. Some of them are are e a l l why hot. But they cost something like 3. 2 million.

I also managed to get to the Kota Indah you-shaped alley just off Jalan Pangeran Jayakarta. This is a rough-looking alley where people go out drinking and partying. It looks a bit like a Thai alley, but darker and rougher, with a bunch of relatively small bars a few feet apart: Starmoon, Sari Ayu, New Sari Ayu, Grand LA, MTR. Usually they are packed with happy, drunk, smoking locals. Rowdy but friendly. Layout is a bit like an American diner, but at the back there is an area with perhaps 20 girls, and mamasans handling transactions. Rooms are upstairs. Before the pandemic there were some problems with police raids in this area. The police would go into one of the bars, lock the doors and search everybody for drugs before letting them out. Don't know whether this is a risk now. I went there with a well to do local acquaintance, and he was frightened to go there. Thought it could be dangerous. But he was afraid of the locals, not the police. I still had a great time there. Price is same as Classic and Travel, 400 000 rupiah per hour. However, the rooms and showers are a good bit rougher. At Classic, Travel, Malioboro they are always spotless.

In return, my local acquaintance took me to his kind of place. Further south. Called Zen. No obvious entrance. Go to the back of an office block, up a staircase and suddenly you are in this club. He said much, much better, but more expensive. It was more expensive, but not better. About 40 girls on offer. Three categories: 3 million, 4 million and 5 million, per girl per hour. They were more pale-skinned, wore lots of heavy "Western"-style clothes, makeup caked on their faces, taller, much chunkier (big square hips). Waste of money as far as I am concerned.

One of the girls told me a lot about how things are organized. Classic, Travel, Malio, Kings Cross and Sumo all have the same owner. They live in dorms controlled by the club. 3-4 girls in each room with bunks. 56 girls in one house. I have seen videos of the inside, and they don't look too rough. Many girls come in on a contract, which means they get a loan and then have to work it off. If you pay 375 000 for an hour, the girl gets about 95 000 out of that. So she is living off the tips. Please bear that in mind and be generous. I tip heavily for good performance. Out of 20 girls, I may pay a tip of 1 million to the 1-2 best, 700 000 to a couple of them, 4-500 000 to many of them and 2-300 000 to the weaker performers. 0 tip is only if a girl really creates problems or something. Some people would probably say I overpay, but I don't think they respect the girls. I try to be nice, caring, and generous. I think it's the right thing to do in itself, it also gives some really nice interaction.

The girl also told me she used to make 10 million per month, now it is more like 5 million. There are much fewer customers and much fewer girls, everything is kind of quiet. She is very good with people, so I expect she earns more than many of the others. They have an antigen test every third day. Medical checkups every three months, including HIV test and full gynaecological examination she claimed, but I am not sure. As per ISG rules I am not permitted to write about my own observations concerning venereal diseases, so you are on your own there.

People wear face masks a lot. Security guards at the entrances to buildings remind people to put them on before going in. Evenings are quiet. Streetside stalls selling nasi goreng still operate until midnight or a bit later, but most restaurants close very early. Kings Cross and Sumo are closed, I was told. CJs is also closed, not clear when they will open (I called them and checked). At the moment Jakarta is not what it used to be. But I expect it to bounce back at some point.

[Cucumber]

Sorry about the radio silence. I got busy. I left Jakarta yesterday and now in Singapore. Need to deal with some other stuff but will fill you in on my last days in Jakarta as soon as I can.

[Goferring]

Fingers crossed.

Just enter via Bali. 3 nights later you can go anywhere in Indonesia. Even for the 3N /4D you can go anywhere inside or outside your hotel in Bali. No Quarantine nor confined to hotel premises.

That's available now to most passport holders