Jakarta

[JonesLover]

Hello,

If you know Indonesia and the Philippines well, I would like to ask 2 questions:

1) Filipinas or Indonesians love sex more. How do they behave in bed?

2) I don't like bar or night clubs and I don't like pro girls. I'm old but in good shape. I'd like to contact a regular nice girl online and to stay with her for full time in my rented apartment in Jakarta for one week. I'd like to get a GF experience, therefore we will go to some restaurants too, to night clubs too, to cook together in apartment too.

If I want to give her a cash gift, how much money can I give her for one week?

[JimNpou1]

Hello Boys,

Has anyone been to Halomas recently? How about Kartika and Berlian in the notorious Swiss Bakery ally? If so, please provide any details you can regarding hours of operation, prices, and general quality of service.

Many thanks!

[Cucumber]

I've seen a lot of comments lately, people asking for basic info of where to find the women, where to find the spas, etc.

I have created a very handy map, having done a lot of research before my trip to Jakarta for the first time, next week.

My Jakarta Day Spa, Nightlife and Tourist Map.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/ed...bw&usp=sharing

Great work! I have put it in the Reports of Distinction Thread.

[Tryntry]

I've seen a lot of comments lately, people asking for basic info of where to find the women, where to find the spas, etc.

I have created a very handy map, having done a lot of research before my trip to Jakarta for the first time, next week.

My Jakarta Day Spa, Nightlife and Tourist Map.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/ed...bw&usp=sharing

Hope prices at these have not increased too much when I visit in July.

[SteelBaton]

I've seen a lot of comments lately, people asking for basic info of where to find the women, where to find the spas, etc.

I have created a very handy map, having done a lot of research before my trip to Jakarta for the first time, next week.

My Jakarta Day Spa, Nightlife and Tourist Map.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/ed...bw&usp=sharing

Good mapping. Great to see a newbie make a post with some actual value addition rather than asking the same questions answered multiple times before.

[Stykler]

BATS is the best pickup in Jakarta as on date.

Any intel on CJ's?

[Freaky Mango]

Can somebody confirm if BATS is back to normal? How is the scene? Do they still have ladies nights on Wednesdays? Planning to visit next month.

BATS is the best pickup in Jakarta as on date. The selection is pretty good on all days of the week. The going rate is 1 million IDR for 1 shot and 2 million for the night + taxi.

[Egy Monger New]

I have formed the impression that around 300 k is a standard tip that will be considered decent

Back in the day when Geylang in Singapore was alive and kicking, Indo FLs and the Thai houses started a dual pricing system, where bules had to pay double that of mongers of Asian descent. This was a result of too many bules tipping huge amounts and feeling guilt and that they need to act as the Red Cross.

If Indonesia is on the radar of 2-week millionaires or becomes the next Thailand, this will happen.

[Cucumber]

... Saying that something is standard, implies that it is generally accepted. Based on the other posts here, and now your current post, this doesn't appear to be the case. There isn't a generally accepted minimum tip. I think you should have said in your earlier post, that giving a 300 k minimum tip was your personal view...

Everybody here is expressing their personal view of what is generally accepted, based on their experiences and impressions. It happens that Classic, Travel and Malioboro are my favorite places to monger. I have been going there (intermittently) for years. I must have slept with several hundred girls in those establishments. It is based on those experiences that I have formed the impression that around 300 k is a standard tip that will be considered decent and neither impress nor disappoint much. Many other members have stated on this forum at various times that they don't even like those establishments, and I guess they don't spend much time there either. To each his own, but perhaps it also has something to do precisely with not working out / accepting the pricing / tipping system. Some places in Jakarta are cheaper than these, but tend to have very low hygiene standards (no or dirty shower, dirty bed). But many are more expensive, and some are much more expensive. E. g. Zen Club Thamrin. Prices there start a bit over 3 million per hour and go up to 6 million. Not including tip. And personally I don't even find the Zen girls that attractive. What I like about a place like Classic is that the rooms are spotless, the basic price of girls is low and their rewards are instead in the form of tips, which gives them an incentive to perform well. If the customer understands and accepts the system.

I like to sleep with several girls in a row on the same night. This gives me some additional impressions of how tips are perceived. The girls share information with each other and how much you tip may therefore influence how the other girls and mamasans relate to you. If you tip much less than 300 k, they are likely to be less friendly and less service-minded. Sometimes I also tip a mamasan 100 k if she brings me a girl that performs really well. That can have a great effect.

Obviously any tipping involves an element of subjectivity. If you ask what is the usual tip in a restaurant in the US, in Germany, in Japan etc. , people. Including locals. Will also give you different answers. At the same time, there are certain levels that will substantially reduce the risk of the waiter spitting in your dish in the kitchen the next time you visit the restaurant. I don't understand all the moral indignation here on the forum about different views on levels of tipping.

[LonelyFriend1]

Guys / Seniors,

Any pointers appreciated. If not any leads pm me please? I will reciprocate my leads in IN if anyone keen.

[Egy Monger New]

The Cucumber is talking about places where the girls are captive and have to take on all comers. It is the assembly line functional encounter.

1. They have chosen the line of work, nobody forced them.

2. They have a right to refuse a customer. I have seen it first hand many times.

3. Half of them are freelancers and are allowed to leave at any time. The other half, who have taken on debt, are only restricted from leaving until they pay back what they owe. It's the same as locals who have taken on unsecured loans from financial institutions not being allowed to travel overseas until they pay back what they owe. Or employers confiscating passports of KITAS holders.

Please let's not turn Indonesia into the next Thailand or Cambodia. I will for sure keep the non-mainstream places to myself only, as the last thing we need is bules spoiling the market.

[Goferring]

You worked hard to post your questions in multiple places.

It is my pleasure to welcome you to Jakarta. I will wash and get the RED Carpet ready for your arrival.
Anything else I can do for you, Sir?

~BKKguru.

Does anyone know where there is info on pickup locations in Jakarta and hotels that I can stay at? Perhaps reviews from hundreds of guys who have done trips previously? Some sort of an online forum with decades of history would be even better.

I've got no idea where I could find anything like that but suggestions are welcome.

Regards. G.

[BKKguru]

Coming into town in a month. <snip>

You worked hard to post your questions in multiple places.

It is my pleasure to welcome you to Jakarta. I will wash and get the RED Carpet ready for your arrival.
Anything else I can do for you, Sir?

~BKKguru.

[Mkkamk]

Coming into town in a month. Like to stay where the action is. What hotels have clubs attached to them? Also where are the hot spots now. Been to Bats and CJs. But also looking for other options. Thanks. PM if you don't want to post is fine. Thanks.

[Golfinho]

This doesn't match what you posted previously about a standard minimum tip, which was the main cause of confusion for me.

Saying that something is standard, implies that it is generally accepted. Based on the other posts here, and now your current post, this doesn't appear to be the case. There isn't a generally accepted minimum tip. I think you should have said in your earlier post, that giving a 300 k minimum tip was your personal view.

Thanks to all the members who have provided information about their opinions of appropriate tipping.

The Cucumber is talking about places where the girls are captive and have to take on all comers. It is the assembly line functional encounter. If he wants to tip in that environment for that kind of experience and that's what makes him feel good, well it's nothing worth thinking about. Go to these places once and it will be clear to you.