Jakarta

[TakeThis]

My view. If you are coming as a tourist you will get very bored very quickly in Jakarta as there is bugger all to do apart from eat, drink, f*&k, repeat. Jakarta is fine if you are coming for work and want to have fun in the evening, but two weeks as a tourist. That would probably test even the most hardened monger. At least Bali has actual touristy things to do for a bit of a break, even if it's just to get out and walk about, and hopefully by November should be well on the way to recovering it's Mojo as far as girls go.

That is awesome advise! Never looked at it from that perspective. Thank you for that!

[Irish Mongrel]

Guys,

I want to visit Indonesia in mid November. However, I am struggling to decide either to visit Jakarta or Bali.

Unfortunately, I won't manage to visit both places. I plan to stay for two weeks.

Can I ask, which place is easier to access for a first time visitor?

Any suggestions and help is highly appreciated!

My view. If you are coming as a tourist you will get very bored very quickly in Jakarta as there is bugger all to do apart from eat, drink, f*&k, repeat. Jakarta is fine if you are coming for work and want to have fun in the evening, but two weeks as a tourist. That would probably test even the most hardened monger. At least Bali has actual touristy things to do for a bit of a break, even if it's just to get out and walk about, and hopefully by November should be well on the way to recovering it's Mojo as far as girls go.

[TakeThis]

Guys,

I want to visit Indonesia in mid November. However, I am struggling to decide either to visit Jakarta or Bali.

Unfortunately, I won't manage to visit both places. I plan to stay for two weeks.

Can I ask, which place is easier to access for a first time visitor?

Any suggestions and help is highly appreciated!

[SeaTraveler]

This forum sure is quiet!

[Thampi62]

I've seen a lot of comments lately, people asking for basic info of where to find the women, where to find the spas, etc.

I have created a very handy map, having done a lot of research before my trip to Jakarta for the first time, next week.

My Jakarta Day Spa, Nightlife and Tourist Map.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/ed...bw&usp=sharing

Great work. Fruitful information. Thanks a lot.

[Zanny]

Hello Boys,

Has anyone been to Halomas recently? How about Kartika and Berlian in the notorious Swiss Bakery ally? If so, please provide any details you can regarding hours of operation, prices, and general quality of service.

Many thanks!

I was in that alley, I mentioned it in my trip report. That trip report lives in a certain forum about Pattaya (where I type this from now) in the "rest of the world" area. Don't think I'd be allowed to post the link here, so you have to do some digging. I extensively report on Jakarta from my trip last week.

Regarding the alley, only one place looked open, at 11 am, Royal Mas, from Google Street View: https://www.google.com/maps/@-6.1505794, 106.8175296,3 a,61.1 y,113.91 h,79.22 t / data=!3 m6!1 e1!3 m4!1 sXaaUbulfyV1 V_qXFlBVs5 A!2 e0!7 i16384!8 i8192.

Nothing else looked open, the alley was quite dead, I felt like a big target in this small alley, and I felt it better to bounce. So I went down the road to Kimochi Mabes.

Happy to see my Jakarta Monger's map is popular with the fellas on this forum. It only had a small amount of views, now it's in the threads of distinction, well over 3000 views: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/ed...570000001&z=14.

[JonesLover]

Hello,

If you know Indonesia and the Philippines well, I would like to ask 2 questions:

1) Filipinas or Indonesians love sex more. How do they behave in bed?

2) I don't like bar or night clubs and I don't like pro girls. I'm old but in good shape. I'd like to contact a regular nice girl online and to stay with her for full time in my rented apartment in Jakarta for one week. I'd like to get a GF experience, therefore we will go to some restaurants too, to night clubs too, to cook together in apartment too.

If I want to give her a cash gift, how much money can I give her for one week?

[JimNpou1]

Hello Boys,

Has anyone been to Halomas recently? How about Kartika and Berlian in the notorious Swiss Bakery ally? If so, please provide any details you can regarding hours of operation, prices, and general quality of service.

Many thanks!

[Cucumber]

I've seen a lot of comments lately, people asking for basic info of where to find the women, where to find the spas, etc.

I have created a very handy map, having done a lot of research before my trip to Jakarta for the first time, next week.

My Jakarta Day Spa, Nightlife and Tourist Map.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/ed...bw&usp=sharing

Great work! I have put it in the Reports of Distinction Thread.

[Tryntry]

I've seen a lot of comments lately, people asking for basic info of where to find the women, where to find the spas, etc.

I have created a very handy map, having done a lot of research before my trip to Jakarta for the first time, next week.

My Jakarta Day Spa, Nightlife and Tourist Map.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/ed...bw&usp=sharing

Hope prices at these have not increased too much when I visit in July.

[SteelBaton]

I've seen a lot of comments lately, people asking for basic info of where to find the women, where to find the spas, etc.

I have created a very handy map, having done a lot of research before my trip to Jakarta for the first time, next week.

My Jakarta Day Spa, Nightlife and Tourist Map.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/ed...bw&usp=sharing

Good mapping. Great to see a newbie make a post with some actual value addition rather than asking the same questions answered multiple times before.

[Stykler]

BATS is the best pickup in Jakarta as on date.

Any intel on CJ's?

[Freaky Mango]

Can somebody confirm if BATS is back to normal? How is the scene? Do they still have ladies nights on Wednesdays? Planning to visit next month.

BATS is the best pickup in Jakarta as on date. The selection is pretty good on all days of the week. The going rate is 1 million IDR for 1 shot and 2 million for the night + taxi.

[Egy Monger New]

I have formed the impression that around 300 k is a standard tip that will be considered decent

Back in the day when Geylang in Singapore was alive and kicking, Indo FLs and the Thai houses started a dual pricing system, where bules had to pay double that of mongers of Asian descent. This was a result of too many bules tipping huge amounts and feeling guilt and that they need to act as the Red Cross.

If Indonesia is on the radar of 2-week millionaires or becomes the next Thailand, this will happen.

[Cucumber]

... Saying that something is standard, implies that it is generally accepted. Based on the other posts here, and now your current post, this doesn't appear to be the case. There isn't a generally accepted minimum tip. I think you should have said in your earlier post, that giving a 300 k minimum tip was your personal view...

Everybody here is expressing their personal view of what is generally accepted, based on their experiences and impressions. It happens that Classic, Travel and Malioboro are my favorite places to monger. I have been going there (intermittently) for years. I must have slept with several hundred girls in those establishments. It is based on those experiences that I have formed the impression that around 300 k is a standard tip that will be considered decent and neither impress nor disappoint much. Many other members have stated on this forum at various times that they don't even like those establishments, and I guess they don't spend much time there either. To each his own, but perhaps it also has something to do precisely with not working out / accepting the pricing / tipping system. Some places in Jakarta are cheaper than these, but tend to have very low hygiene standards (no or dirty shower, dirty bed). But many are more expensive, and some are much more expensive. E. g. Zen Club Thamrin. Prices there start a bit over 3 million per hour and go up to 6 million. Not including tip. And personally I don't even find the Zen girls that attractive. What I like about a place like Classic is that the rooms are spotless, the basic price of girls is low and their rewards are instead in the form of tips, which gives them an incentive to perform well. If the customer understands and accepts the system.

I like to sleep with several girls in a row on the same night. This gives me some additional impressions of how tips are perceived. The girls share information with each other and how much you tip may therefore influence how the other girls and mamasans relate to you. If you tip much less than 300 k, they are likely to be less friendly and less service-minded. Sometimes I also tip a mamasan 100 k if she brings me a girl that performs really well. That can have a great effect.

Obviously any tipping involves an element of subjectivity. If you ask what is the usual tip in a restaurant in the US, in Germany, in Japan etc. , people. Including locals. Will also give you different answers. At the same time, there are certain levels that will substantially reduce the risk of the waiter spitting in your dish in the kitchen the next time you visit the restaurant. I don't understand all the moral indignation here on the forum about different views on levels of tipping.