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09-19-22 00:54 #16241
Posts: 920Originally Posted by Ggekko2009 [View Original Post]
Some foreigners are engaging in BBFS. CIP as they might forget about the risk of getting life threatening infections. But the point here is that HIV testing is for both parties, not only for the the men but also for the girls.
Also differentiate between getting regular test for STD like Syphilis, Gonorrhoea, etc are not the same with getting HIV test. These tye of disease infections could easily be recognised even without doing testing. Should the sex workers in Indonesia get regular HIV test, there would be many more people would want to engage in unprotected sex without hesitation.
I never heard that sex workers in Indonesia get regular check for HIV. Should the sex workers in Indonesia get HIV test regularly there should not be any problem to do BBFS.
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09-19-22 00:24 #16240
Posts: 920Originally Posted by Ggekko2009 [View Original Post]
I never said there are not wealthy Indonesian seeking for the high class escorts. Like anywhere In the world there are always high class escorts, courtesans, etc. But Do these very wealthy Indonesian people go to Kota Indah, King-cross, Kelapa Gading (KG) Jakarta where they could easily travel abroad anywhere they want to or book the movie stars?
The Rate of US$300 that we are talking here is about ordinary Indonesian student, which you see a lot of them in the shopping malls. She is not a high class escort, or courtesans or movie star. celebrity. It is widely known that many Indonesian students in Jakarta are working as an escort. The salary range and minimum salary in Jakarta that I quoted before is coming from reputable site for professionals.
I am familiar with Jakarta and Indonesian scene In general and I speak Indonesian fluently. I know the average salary of an Indonesian engineer and/or other professionals.
Also do not forget these wealthy Indonesian could easily travel abroad anytime, anywhere they want to. But what are the percentage of them??
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09-19-22 00:00 #16239
Posts: 533Originally Posted by Adindas [View Original Post]
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09-18-22 23:43 #16238
Posts: 533Originally Posted by Adindas [View Original Post]
Having said that, you might get similar challenges from regular girls getting STD tests for you. I have only ever seen one girl's profile in seeking from Jakarta that demanded you do STD test before anything else and she was looking for a long term arrangement.
It is actually ironic that girls in brothels like those in spas and clubs in Jakarta actually get tested more frequently as mandated by the establishment. The establishment usually have their own doctors doing their regular rounds taking swabs and samples from the girls for testing. If the girls are tested positive with STD, they are out. By that standard, one could say they are actually less risky.
In any case, make your own assessment and decision based on your risk tolerance. If in doubt, get it covered.
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09-18-22 18:25 #16237
Posts: 920Originally Posted by Zanny [View Original Post]
The main point against PrEP is that, it is a very strong drug and you will need to take it for about a week in order to be effective.
https://www.iwantprepnow.co.uk/how-to-take-prep/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnZS6CtLqu8
Regarding testing, indeed they could be faked but the incentive of doing is low as the cost of oral testing is cheap.
Another alternative with a lower accuracy might be to buy oral test kit, where people could do it for themselves.
https://www.chemist-4-u.com/oraquick-hiv
I believe it is like quick Swap test with Covid-19?
I do not know about the US, but I know that male / female pornstars in Europe are using HIV testing before engaging in BBFS CIP scenes. They do not take PrEP.
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09-18-22 16:49 #16236
Posts: 291Originally Posted by CallSignRomeo [View Original Post]
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09-18-22 14:10 #16235
Posts: 71Originally Posted by Adindas [View Original Post]
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09-18-22 09:48 #16234
Posts: 920HIV test in Jakarta (or Indonesia In general) ???
I wonder how much an HIV test in Jakarta and / or in Indonesia will cost??
In other countries such as in Germany, the organisers will arrange a quick HIV test on the spot before they allow people to join the BBFS - CIP party. It costs EUR30, so presumably the true cost must be around that.
When you meet a civvy girl via seeking arrangement, tinder or other social networking sites. Could you not ask them to have an HIV test get certificate (or the like) and you pay for it, This is to reduced the risk significantly of getting life threatening incurable infection??Last edited by Adindas; 09-18-22 at 09:49. Reason: HIV test in Jakarta (or Indonesia In general) ???
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09-17-22 20:42 #16233
Posts: 37Don't over-pay
Originally Posted by MightySpearsman [View Original Post]
People from pussy-prison countries like the US, land in places like this and have no concept of what the market rate is and fuck it up for the rest of us. Don't throw your cash around, don't excessively overpay and for fucks sake don't be part of the "I tip well" brigade. Leave that attitude back at home.
Three years ago, I was banging a lot of civvies there but took a couple of semi-WG's too. One was $25 for 4-12 hours of fun, including her willingly (and without prompting) cleaning my apartment whilst I was in the shower and giving me a proper massage after we had fucked for a long time. She also cooked me nice meals too and sometimes stayed overnight. Another was a sub, who would stay for 2-days-1-night for $60 and loved being dominated, spanked, and treated rough.
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09-17-22 20:22 #16232
Posts: 920Originally Posted by MightySpearsman [View Original Post]
https://www.glassdoor.co.uk/Salaries...lary-SRCH_IL.0, 7_IM1045_KO8,16. Htm? CountryRedirect=true.
The average salary of an Engineer in Jakarta is IDR 8,100,654 per month in the Jakarta, that is equivalent to $540 a month. Also keep in mind that is an engineer Job, Not average job that could be done by ordinary people without a proper skills and higher education. Also you will still need to deduct it with income tax. So $300 might be a month salary for ordinary worker. The inium salary in Jakarta in 2022 is Rp4.573.845.
https://www.bbc.com/indonesia/indonesia-62154251 (use google translate)
So For $300 a night it is mad to think that average Indonesian will ever consider that. They are very lucky if Indonesian people would ever want to pay for half of it $150 a night.
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09-17-22 06:22 #16231
Posts: 331Originally Posted by KrisMonger [View Original Post]
We no longer need to hang out in malls, hoping to make eye contact, or flirting with the perfume squirters, spending an hour over coffee, tentatively sizing each other up, we don't have to dress up fine and hang out in hotel bars wondering "Is she or isn't she?" You can lay all the essential groundwork, get all the preliminaries out of the way while you are at your desk at work or having a dump on the toilet. Everything done and dusted and expectations cleared up before you even meet. Just don't be shy, don't faff about, if she says she's willing to meet you and remuneration is expected then she has made clear who and what she is. Just get on with it and settle the negotiations and don't agonize over whether she's a good girl who you've turned bad, as I said before you won't be her first spin on the Ferris wheel.
Oh, and as recommended below, get a cheap burner phone (can be had for $40 or less) and a throwaway SIM card, no need for them to have access to your real number, but then, do I really need to explain the basics to a forum of mongers?
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09-16-22 07:33 #16230
Posts: 13Originally Posted by BenderOver [View Original Post]
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09-16-22 07:28 #16229
Posts: 13Originally Posted by KrisMonger [View Original Post]
I matched a student girl in IndonesianCupid, a little but shy, poor english. She first joking about sugardating because it is not the website for this, until I propose an arrangement she accepted; unfortunately she can't stay the night she's still living with her strict parents' rules.
We're texting each other using wassap (with very simple english) and she sends frequently regular (ie. Too much clothes) pics of her. I think that I finally break the ice, I received a few pics of her naked body.
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09-16-22 07:24 #16228
Posts: 147Originally Posted by GentileBear [View Original Post]
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09-15-22 23:59 #16227
Posts: 168Also. TanTan - Just like Tinder but more Indonesia / China / Philippines contestants.